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	PS: almost 100 days online :x PPS: 4-digit likes :x PPPS: SDN rank :x PPPPS: no4 points
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	Maybe there is some miscalculation in calculating the localX and localY from the globalX and Y? I assume that the localX and localY are used to click the minimap? The code to walk Closer to the ruin as said on the status is: (object being the Myserious ruins) Settings.status = "Walking closer to " + object.getName(); script.localWalker.walk(object, true); Utils.sleep(script, 100, 400); Does osbot return the ruins on a wrong position? kind regards Khaleesi2 points
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	If you don't like a thread, don't go to it. If you don't like a post, ignore it. If you don't like a person, block them. No one really cares whether enough to see how many people hate a specific thing.2 points
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	Those of us that would like to be exposed to less frequent bans and hang onto our accounts for more then a week2 points
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	I edited the title because it's misleading; we never made any promises that you would become invulnerable to a ban.2 points
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	I don't understand how you can say they most likely do not ban based on IP. I honestly think the IP in which you are botting on is a HUGE factor when it comes to getting banned. Within the past few days I had all of my proxies switched over to a new subnet. None of the IP's I was given have been distributed to anyone except me while under the control of this particular supplier. Whatever these IP's have been used for since their existence is obviously unknown, but they have not been used for Runescape while being sold under this specific seller. This past Monday, I started botting 5 accounts using 3 of the IP's. Today when I woke up around 1:30PM EST, I checked my VPS to see that one of the accounts had gotten disabled. The IP that this account was running on was the IP that was most recently put to use. I see absolutely no reason this account should have gotten banned other than the fact the IP was flagged in some way. What I have now done is taken 1 account that has been botting fine for the past few days and stuck it on the IP I think is flagged. If this account is the only account disabled tomorrow, there is literally nothing else that could be causing it to get caught so quickly other than it being the IP. Before having my IPs switched to the IP's I currently have, there were these 3 IP's that I ran accounts on that legit would last for extended periods of time before eventually just getting caught. I had multiple accounts last at least 3 bond uses. These account's ran every single day for 12 hours a day doing the exact same thing. Whenever I wanted to add more bots, I needed to get more proxies. Obviously, I purchased proxies from the same place yet every time I'd try to run bots on these new IP's, the accounts would get banned within a day. So I continuously had the IP's changed but with no improved results, everything would get banned. Yet anything I ran on these other 3 IP's nothing would happen to them. So for about a span of 2 months, I really only used the same 3 IP's because every other IP I tried using, accounts would get banned within a day on them. Anyway, this shit is so confusing. But I really think a major factor comes down to IP's. I just don't see how else I could possibly get banned this quick. Like I said above, I have 1 account running on what I believe to be a "flagged" IP, and I'm almost guaranteeing that tomorrow when I wake up and check the VPS the only account that is going to be disabled is going to be that one. I really wish you'd guys could hurry up and introduce proxy support for mirroring. I really want to run 2 of my accounts on a "flagged" IP, one account running via mirroring and one account via standard mode and see the outcome.2 points
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	3/17 So we have all experienced the banhammer very much as of late and I would just like to share my personal experiences here to help everyone out. To do so I conducted a mini experiment: I've recently been using the Lazy Assistant Script by Project Pat (Great Product). I made 2 accounts use it via injection and one via mirror. Then I wced all the accounts for 8 hours in Mirror Mode. Today the two accounts that I used with the injection client with Lazy Assistant this morning were banned, While the one fully used in mirror mode is still chopping away. Conclusion: From this I've resolved that Jagex can go back and check if your account has used the injection method, regardless of how many days ago it was. I can also safely assume they have some sort of program that scans their player database for injection and *poof*... they nail the banhammer into your precious account. This also explains how they can forgo an appeals process on these accounts as well, because they have the hard evidence showing that some external program has altered their game. I will continue to post updates on accounts etc if evidence begins to show me differently, but my recommendation is that injection is dead. So use only mirror mode. Otherwise your account is a short-living ticking time bomb. Happy botting guys! 3/18 Alright so some new information. I stupidly ran both, the surviving strictly mirror account, and a new account (set up completely with mirror mode) for 14 hours wcing and they as of today have both been perma banned. The wcing ban rate is very high right now and both areas where I botted were F2P. My theory update is that as well as an automated system they have JMods that watch F2P worlds like a hawk. Will be switching my botting regiment up to make it a little less obvious. Going to make some member accounts and work on various stats. From this I'm drawing that F2P suiciding is not gonna be the way to go. More to come here... 3/19 - 3/23 Alright so I made a weird discovery here over the past couple days regarding injection, but I think I have some really good insight regarding new accounts because of it. So over the past couple days I made three new F2P accounts (all of which were going to be botted using injection). Now I think it was Maxi who had a theory regarding tiers and this I believe supports that idea. Now two of the accounts I botted just using Lazy Assistant's New Account Walker feature while the other I legitimately trained up combat a little bit, fishing, cooking, and THEN began to bot woodcutting. Now here's what the weird part was... This morning I woke up and my two Autowalker accounts were banned... They haven't even been skilled at all yet and the walker was flawless, but obviously their system still detected the injected client. My woodcutter however managed to survive... My theory here is that there are tiers for accounts possibly based on total levels. You better believe Jagex watches those new F2P accounts like hawks, but if you legitimately play on the account for a little bit and switch it up skills wise you basically pass a "legitimacy test". The other thing I found strange too is that I purposely botted all these accounts on the same IP on the same computer at the same time and only the fresher two got banned. Any ideas on this? Please post in the replies. More insight coming soon! Special thanks to Maxi for the insight on tiers when releasing the Mirror Client. P.S. Will update post if wcer gets a delayed ban of some sort, but it doesn't look that way so far. Conclusion: From this I'm beginning to think one of two things or possibly even both... Either they scan F2P worlds for the modified clients OR they scan for it based on total levels. The third possibility is obviously that I got unlucky as shit, but that's much less likely I presume. More to come! 3/24-3/29 The following took place using mirror mode... Haven't had a ton of time to bot, but here goes nothing. The surviving bot from the previous dates has since been banned. The strange thing is the one time it got banned was the second time I botted it overnight. The mistake I made I believe was botting woodcutting consistently for too long. I spent solid 4 days approx. 10 hrs per day doing the same exact same task. I'm a believer that overnight botting is a bad idea. You better believe Jagex knows your timezone. I think the baseline tests are done and I'm going to try mixing in some legitimate play time with my next account and see how it does. Bottom line is suicide botting any one skill makes your account a ticking time bomb and ultimately is not worth it. Mirror mode is close to completely undetectable. Conclusion: I think I played in the same area too long and my account got caught because of the account patterns. We'll see if mixing it up helps out. Gonna be a little more creative and report back. Happy botting! 3/30-4/1 Alright so some less insightful news here, but good news none the less... Well the good part is that I have 3 accounts running on mirror doing different tasks every couple of hours and they have yet to be banned. The bad news is I was making an account for my man @Valkyr and was NOT using mirror mode. That account has been banned sadly. This information is obviously brief, but it's a pretty good way to start wrapping up this thread. I'll be doing some more periodic updates as my farming grows, but it will certainly be over larger periods of time. Conclusion: What I'm realizing is that with the mirror client, the only thing left to detect is patterning. In all honesty I think now it's on the scriptors to become more creative with randomized path making and movements to make everything as humanlike as possible. As far as I can see as the mirror client continues to improve, so does my botting ability. I've been having a lot of success in general with Masterace Omega. I think a lot of that is because of the randomized web walking etc and I'm beginning to see those kind of scripts being the real future as opposed to single task scripts. Good luck scriptors. You have your work cut out for ya! Credits: As the core content of this begins to wrap up (but trust me there is definitely more to come) I hope people have been getting a lot of help from my experiences. This is only the genesis, but I want to give some specific shout outs to some of the people on here who have made this research possible. @Maldesto For OSBot and the community as a whole (duh) @Maxi and the rest of the development team for working their asses off to develop the mirror client (aka the client that has saved botting). @ProjectPact for the Lazy AIO script I used for the creation of my accounts (and gratz on Son Scriptor rank buddy!) @Divinity For MasterRace which has headlined an improvement in overall bot quality from all the scriptors. And last but most certainly not least I wanna thank every who has commented with deep insight and great tips throughout the discussion here. Much of my testing was based off of assumptions you guys posted in the comments and I would have nowhere to start without you. So thank you OSBot members for your contributions and remember... THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING ~ Cruelhitz1 point
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	i woke up and looked at my bot and saw no paint / no script running ( most likey banned ) and i was like NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! then i relised there was an update RIP.1 point
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	Oo good luck! what methods you using to train? only thing i do to train is nmz cause im lazy :31 point
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	You're actually defining two seperate instances of stall in the code. What you name as stall in the case may not necessarily be what you name as stall in the getState. For this reason, you need to add a nullcheck in otherwise you will be recieving frequent NPEs. Generally it's a good idea to nullcheck anything you define before interacting with it though. Even if you consider it unnecessary, it's always an added level of check which can impact the stability of your script Apa1 point
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	If you're IP is flagged, then yes. Did you encounter more bans on your current IP?1 point
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	grrr :p Well uh, unfortunately buying this is kinda useless for me now, i'll try remaking some accounts for this though :p I hope your blast furnace one will be out soon, since it requires almost nothing and makes a lot on low lvl accounts. If you have other scripts that require close to no time to make money from it i'm interested :p The RC script still is wonderful, almost 100% sure the ban is due to stupid free scripts that i used.1 point
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	Please at least include the script name... p.s. Just because the script works on regular client doesn't necessary mean that mirror client is broken. It may as well be the case where script uses the API incorrectly and relies on undefined behavior which is, of course, different on mirror client.1 point
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	Not woodcutting... Literally anything else and you should be fine lol1 point
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	YES... Thank you for adding the save feature. This will save me an abundance of time! Love your work!1 point
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	And why doesn't it work? does it give you an error message? I could possibly be to big.1 point
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	They ban IP's but not based on the actual IP. They ban the ip's based on the uid in the random.dat file. It helps them track accounts that are related to each other. They then used that information to ban ip's and accounts.1 point
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	Mate Druidkilla been pushed days ago till now... Also why would you need to see @Alek there, does he not already do enough by managing and updating the bot for you?1 point
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	You know this time of year is busy for exams right? I know Divinity is currently very busy with exams and coursework and i don't blame him for making that priority as OSBot isn't his main priority. Also, i remember hearing that SDN managers get paid very little if not anything (please correct me on this). Divinity will always be trying his best to keep up, but this time of the year is busy for everyone in education. So cut him some slack. tl;dr Eduaction is more important than OSBot.1 point
 
		 
       
       
       
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	 
	