RoomScape Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 2:30 PM, ez11 said: The AIO Marketguide @Maldesto posted says that negative feedback is not jsut for scams: "Negative: Negative feedback is meant for trades to where you have not received the item you have paid for or someone has taken away money given to you for a service. This can also be left if the buyer and/or seller is extremely rude or demanding, these will be handled in a case by case scenario by the Staff Team." https://osbot.org/forum/announcement/57-aio-market-guide/ So basically if someone is a MM and holds money and then decides to flame the guy whose money hes holding and telling him that hes going to give the money away even though the buyer hasnt recieved what he paid for that would also be a situation that would deserve a negative feedback acording to what maldesto posted. Expand Is that new or was that always there? I don't think I remember seeing that before. On 4/28/2017 at 2:25 PM, Decode said: Negatives are only given in case of scams, basically. We allow people to leave neutrals if they have a valid reason, just because they choose not to doesn't mean the system is flawed Expand What is the point in negative FB when we have a dispute section where people are banned if they scam? Negative is literally useless in the current system. Neutral just isn't very known as it was always removed in the past so people don't leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ez11 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) On 4/28/2017 at 2:44 PM, RoomScape said: Is that new or was that always there? I don't think I remember seeing that before. Expand has been there for a while not sure for how long though. It just seems like mods pretty much ignore it Edited April 28, 2017 by ez11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butta Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 the fact that you can split a 100M trade in 10M trades to get 10 different vouches is a bit crap. But i couldn't think of any solutions. maybe someone else can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolate Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 0 > 100 real quick up in here. But yea people should feel free to use neutral feedback more often, it's peoples choice not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoomScape Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 2:49 PM, Isolate said: 0 > 100 real quick up in here. But yea people should feel free to use neutral feedback more often, it's peoples choice not to. Expand It's not so much that they choose not to, it's just not an obvious choice like positive is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucki Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 2:54 PM, RoomScape said: It's not so much that they choose not to, it's just not an obvious choice like positive is. Expand u literally get threatened by staff if you try to leave neutral feedback 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissy Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 2:35 PM, Jamez said: Oh drama Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoomScape Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 3:00 PM, Lucki said: u literally get threatened by staff if you try to leave neutral feedback Expand My point exactly. You're deterred from using neutral FB. When people do leave neutral it gets deleted most the time. Also, for people arguing that negative would hurt sellers, it probably would at the moment since everyone who ever had negative is banned for scamming. So naturally if you have negative people associate that with scamming. Negative should just mean they had a negative experience and scamming should be something unrelated. On 4/28/2017 at 2:30 PM, ez11 said: The AIO Marketguide @Maldesto posted says that negative feedback is not jsut for scams: "Negative: Negative feedback is meant for trades to where you have not received the item you have paid for or someone has taken away money given to you for a service. This can also be left if the buyer and/or seller is extremely rude or demanding, these will be handled in a case by case scenario by the Staff Team." https://osbot.org/forum/announcement/57-aio-market-guide/ So basically if someone is a MM and holds money and then decides to flame the guy whose money hes holding and telling him that hes going to give the money away even though the buyer hasnt recieved what he paid for that would also be a situation that would deserve a negative feedback acording to what maldesto posted. Expand He shouldn't be a MM as he's clearly ignorant, lmfao. But yes, that's a valid point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggles Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Around most OSRS communities, people view NEGATIVE as scamming and do not trade with those people. Even I try not to interact with anyone if they have a negative feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Would be nice for example in services ive been in they have been total cunts but because the service is done its always positive nothing on the - Neutral (- Completed trade but he was extremely hard to work with type deal) bad english sorry to tired to care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDu Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 3:05 PM, RoomScape said: My point exactly. You're deterred from using neutral FB. When people do leave neutral it gets deleted most the time. Also, for people arguing that negative would hurt sellers, it probably would at the moment since everyone who ever had negative is banned for scamming. So naturally if you have negative people associate that with scamming. Negative should just mean they had a negative experience and scamming should be something unrelated. Expand So basically hack forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoomScape Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 3:09 PM, Juggles said: Around most OSRS communities, people view NEGATIVE as scamming and do not trade with those people. Even I try not to interact with anyone if they have a negative feedback Expand Negative isn't a bad thing. Just means there was a bad experience. The community makes negative a bad thing so that's where we're at at the moment. On 4/28/2017 at 3:11 PM, DrDu said: So basically hack forums Expand I'm banned on HF so I don't know. rip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9thebeast Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) On 4/28/2017 at 2:25 PM, Decode said: Negatives are only given in case of scams, basically. We allow people to leave neutrals if they have a valid reason, just because they choose not to doesn't mean the system is flawed Expand What about cases when a scripter runs off with 300$, my code, and attempts to redistribute. Wasnt a scam, think my feedback for him should be deleted Edited April 28, 2017 by k9thebeast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 2:44 PM, RoomScape said: Is that new or was that always there? I don't think I remember seeing that before. Expand This has been there. But it's generally not followed. There are plenty negatives, but we never see them cause they are mostly banned after and the only ones we see are when they 'refund' after a period of time. If they refund immediately then it's usually removed and most likely played off as a misunderstanding. All the rudeness is forgotten after because the main focus is the missing item or service. We simply don't see Neutrals because this generally doesn't happen. Who insults someone during or after a successful trade? The system is not abusive itself but we view negative feedbacks very harshly and it needs improvement. Like many things around OSBot. That isn't to say it isn't working good, it's just not amazing. I still like this system more than some forums such as scythe. I just think it could be improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoomScape Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 3:42 PM, Asuna said: This has been there. But it's generally not followed. There are plenty negatives, but we never see them cause they are mostly banned after and the only ones we see are when they 'refund' after a period of time. If they refund immediately then it's usually removed and most likely played off as a misunderstanding. All the rudeness is forgotten after because the main focus is the missing item or service. We simply don't see Neutrals because this generally doesn't happen. Who insults someone during or after a successful trade? The system is not abusive itself but we view negative feedbacks very harshly and it needs improvement. Like many things around OSBot. That isn't to say it isn't working good, it's just not amazing. I still like this system more than some forums such as scythe. I just think it could be improved. Expand What I would always find funny af is when someone has FB and would advertise saying 100% FB rating - both here and other forums. That never made any sense to me as anyone who had a negative always got banned, just marketing I guess. But I just thought about this and decided to make a thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
