2 Questions to the american osbot users here

[D Bolter]

There's too many racist republicans in the U.S that think 0 gun control is good and that Trump is a good president. Majority of these racist republicans are close minded and uneducated. Oh well.

[Dab in a Lab]

I don't own any guns, and I definitely think the mass shootings are more of people thing than a gun one. That being said though, I think there should be a ban on ARs, cause what citizen needs one? There should be stricter and more regulated background checks for things such as hunting rifles and firearms. 

I also think there should be a bigger push towards helping others with mental illness. For the most part, people are generally shunned if they have a serious mental disease. Educating the public on the various diseases and having a more open mind would be beneficial. 

[Jordan]

1 hour ago, irwtonrs1 said:

I own 0 guns. I'm all for legally owning say a handgun for home/self protection but do you also need to own semi auto weapons and things of the such? No. 

This is fake news. Handguns ARE semi auto weapons with nearly identical damage potential to an AR-15.

Edited February 24, 2018 by Jordan

[Unversable]

This country is just too big and too diverse politically for anything to change quick enough. I live in Atlanta and my city is progressive but I can drive to my parents house 30 minutes away in a different county where it's the law that you HAVE to own a gun.

[McBeerson]

No purpose to a gun if you aren't hunting with it, or using it for personal protection. Assault rifles are for the battlefield.

[Jordan]

19 minutes ago, D Bolter said:

There's too many racist republicans in the U.S that think 0 gun control is good and that Trump is a good president. Majority of these racist republicans are close minded and uneducated. Oh well.

I think you're trolling but I can't tell. Racism doesn't have anything to do with anything. If we want to talk racism the left is to blame for 99% of race inequality issues. Look at every democratic controlled state and city with the strictest gun control laws in the US, that have the highest poverty and gun murder rates by multiple level of magnitudes. 

[Alek]

I'm all for personal protection and even shooting for fun at the range, there's enough people with guns in America where simply banning them would prove to be too beneficial for criminals. I do respect the argument that criminals don't follow laws, so you can't make more laws that they will obey. However, I'm very adamant on all firearms requiring owners to be 21+, mental health checks being reinstated (Trump overturned this "Obama era policy" and is now reinstating it?), and for rifles to have a 10-15 round capacity. I think the "assault" weapon features are ridiculous, they really don't do anything.

This is legal:

 

 

But this is not:

[Jordan]

4 minutes ago, McBeerson said:

No purpose to a gun if you aren't hunting with it, or using it for personal protection. Assault rifles are for the battlefield.

The 2nd amendment gave guns to the people so that they would have the means to fight against a tyrannical government. That is what guns are for. Most guns should sit locked up and only be used for routine training. Guns are what keep the US government from overstepping their power more than they already do.

2 minutes ago, Alek said:

I'm all for personal protection and even shooting for fun at the range, there's enough people with guns in America where simply banning them would prove to be too beneficial for criminals. I do respect the argument that criminals don't follow laws, so you can't make more laws that they will obey. However, I'm very adamant on all firearms requiring owners to be 21+, mental health checks being reinstated (Trump overturned this "Obama era policy" and is now reinstating it?), and for rifles to have a 10-15 round capacity. I think the "assault" weapon features are ridiculous, they really don't do anything.

This is legal:

 

 

But this is not:

Just because a gun looks scary isn't a good reason to ban it. Most hunting rifles have similar fire rates and damage potential as this gun, but they are made of wood so nobody cares.

I agree mental health checks and age restrictions are logical.

Edited February 24, 2018 by Jordan

[PerryThePlatypus]

Children being slaughtered is a price gun-nuts are HAPPY to pay so they can hold on to their weapons. Give 'em the ole' "thoughts and prayers" rhetoric and wait until it happens again (which doesn't take long in the US.) Rinse and repeat. I'm not saying I have a solution, but surely the people we elected can work towards one. It's disgusting, 2018 and domestic terrorism is destroying this country faster than any foreign power such as ISIS or some other terrorist group could. 

 

I also find it funny that Florida lawmakers decided against a ban on assault rifles, but declared PORN a public health risk. 

 

 

Edited February 24, 2018 by PerryThePlatypus

[osrs42]

11 minutes ago, Unversable said:

This country is just too big and too diverse politically for anything to change quick enough. I live in Atlanta and my city is progressive but I can drive to my parents house 30 minutes away in a different county where it's the law that you HAVE to own a gun.

Kennasaw ? I live about an hour from Atlanta NW near Rome.

[LoudPacks]

We have roughly 101 guns per 100 people. Banning them isn't going to alter that supply so the black market will flourish and many owners won't turn in guns that they already own. I think it's ridiculous that they think an AR ban would fix the problem. People will still be able to buy AR's illegally, and any semi-auto weapon could do just as much damage, granted that non-ARs usually have smaller magazines but you can easily 3D print larger magazines. Most of the mass shootings probably involve AR's because they look cool and are easy to customize. Banning the guns is not the solution but they probably should make it more difficult to get any sort of firearms because in many states they're isnt much regulation involved in purchasing a firearm.

 

Definitely a people problem and not a gun problem. Even with stricter regulations, you can buy a gun illegally on the street for less money than a new ps4.

Edited February 24, 2018 by LoudPacks

[Unversable]

3 minutes ago, osrs42 said:

Kennasaw ? I live about an hour from Atlanta NW near Rome.

Yes sir

[Alek]

3 minutes ago, Jordan said:

The 2nd amendment gave guns to the people so that they would have the means to fight against a tyrannical government. That is what guns are for. Most guns should sit locked up and only be used for routine training. Guns are what keep the US government from overstepping their power more than they already do.

Just because a gun looks scary isn't a good reason to ban it. Most hunting rifles have similar fire rates and damage potential as this gun, but they are made of wood so nobody cares.

That said, mental health checks and age restrictions are logical.

I understand the scary black rifle concept.

 

The American people elected a president who would protect and give more gun rights for this crazy notion of "keeping our government in check with a well armed militia". He overturned a completely logical regulation that prevented people with mental health issues from purchasing a firearm capable of punching holes through walls, 30 rounds at a time (not a musket). What we got was a school full of children dead and a militia that is still completely outmatched by the logistical and weapon superiority of the government. 

[Jordan]

The legal problem with gun control laws is they are restricted by due process. We shouldn't discuss no-fly lists for example as it would require the 5th and 14th amendments would have to be repealed. 

[Severide]

1 hour ago, gearing said:

Gotta be a british meme...