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You want a working OSBot 1 version and a working OSBot 2 version of the same script, both with maintenance and both for free ? Also they could just deduct any money you spent on a script from its recurrent payment, that way you don't "lose" any money invested. E.G: you spent 10$ (one-time fee) on a fisher script that will have a recurrent payment of 3.33$/month = you get 3 free months of that script.

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Again with the personal attacks. Bye. From a consumer point of view I understand your frustration. The thing is, the same things will happen on every other botting site sooner or later. Our script market has been exhausted because of concepts such as "one-time fee" and needs a rebirth. If because of this rebirth every one moves on to another site with similar concepts then it will only be a matter of time until that site 's market also gets exhausted. You are going to end up paying one-time fees every time you switch sites = recurrent fees. Might as well stick with the site and products you are used to and embrace the new system / try to improve it by discussing the specifics etc..

Rebirth of the script market. 01. There is no such thing as lifetime support for OSBot 1 scripts, only one-time fees opposed to reccurent fees. 02. The market should have rational and fair restrictions in order to protect the providers from unfair behavior and to prevent chaos. 03. To protect the consumer, the market has to guarantee a minimum maintenance time for every product, if not then the consumer should clearly be made aware of this. 04. A reoccurring fee should remain insignificant compared to the profit its product can generate (never more than 10% per cycle). 05. Considering the dynamic essence of a product "Script", the concept of one-time fee should be deprecated in order to guarantee regular compensation for the provider and regular maintenance for the consumer. 06. All OSBot 1 scripts should be ported free of charge and as a result of this be treated as OSBot 2 scripts. 07. One-time fee and recurring fee products should never co-exist in the script store. 08. In order to protect the consumer, one-time 24h trials for products should become an official feature of the OSBot platform. 09. Refunds for a product X will only be considered if: the consumer has used an official trial for X and if the the provider fails to respect his guarantee of the maintenance time (should this guarantee exist for X).

SCRIPT WRITERS WE deserve more money than WE are currently getting from OUR scripts. I may have used the first singular person when discussing my Shrooms script and myself as a CASE of the global issue. Anyways, still not a real point is it ? Instead of trying to attack my persona you should go and gather some proper arguments concerning the issue.

All of the previous calculations were based on a mining script written by Eric. Joe brought up my script, I proved him wrong, that's all. None of my arguments rely on a specific case, I can apply them to every single money making script from this site. If you can't properly discuss any of the real points I brought up just leave.

It absolutely does, I know my users can get 150$/month (that's 1 tab, 6 hours per day) extremely easily, so I CAN charge these users 5$/month because it's a relatively small expense on their side. If they aren't willing to make that monthly investment even though it only represents around 4% of their monthly profits, then to bad for them. I didn't invent the current market system, the mistake isn't mine. That's only the nature of risk markets. This obviously isn't a risk market. Script writers are finally going to get the proper market protection and an almost fair compensation for their work and dedication / time invested. The consumer will be still be able to make huge profits, the monthly fee only represents a small expense when you compare it to the profit you can make. To bad if you are too greedy to invest 4% of your monthly profits in the main tool allowing you to make that very profit. I don't care what you think about my product and it's really not relevant to this topic, if you are out of real arguments please leave the discussion. Also: The discussion concerning my scripts stops here.

The main competitor doesn't even allow you to bot free scripts for free. Can't say I'm too worried. It is my business. My script is undervalued, it won't remain that way. It's the fault of the current market system, hence the thing they are trying to change.

My software + the FREE bot allow you to make tons of money, all you have to do is buy it and run itYou don't have to do anything else. My effort in the process is much greater than yours yet I get less than peanuts in return. Yes I'm selling my scripts at much to cheap prices, every one does atm, therefore every one is going to have their scripts repriced. Take another look at the numbers and compare the effort we both invested in the actual process of the money making. You could run the Shrooms ONCE and almost double your investment even if that investment were 50$. Please. Also price restrictions concerning competition have been added a couple of weeks ago, you can forget about "some one else will come along and make it for cheap". But I do have right to get more money for my product considering it's undervalued at the moment, the above proggie and the numbers in the previous post prove this point.

Let me repost this (it concerns a "lifetime" 4.99$ script able to make 200K/h with one tab) : Cost of the script: 10M in RSGP. 200K/h * 6h/ day * 45 days = that's 45M. After 45 days you have already tripled your investment. Now let's apply this formula to your definition of lifetime. I'll give lifetime a value of 5 years to be fair with you. 200K/h * 6h/ day * 1825 days = that's 2.2B = that's around 6K$ with the current rates. That is if you use only 1 tab. So, over 5 years you could be making 6K$ from a product quite easily and in return the script writer gets 5$ from you. How is this fair towards the script provider? The numbers aren't on your side. The market isn't fair towards script providers, prove me wrong with actual numbers before you call me a money whore.

Why should scripters have to port / re-write something they never agreed to update for free because when they put it on the store it was working flawlessly and it was future proof for runescape updates ? Concerning the question of additional costs, I crunched some numbers a couple of posts earlier I suggest you take a look at them.

I like it alot gj Dex:) I'll be underpaying my sister to make me an animated ad sig after her exams as well :p

When will you understand that OSBot's customer base has been exhausted and new users are too sparse?

Doesn't matter whether or not you sell it, you are accumulating value and wealth. You give those who allow you to accumulate that wealth less than peanuts in return. The current system isn't fair, if you still think I'm wrong after the facts and numbers I gave. Well then I guess we are done.

The truth hurts doesn't it, who's the greedy money whore now? You can of course keep the script for the rest of your life! It could break though, if only "maintained for as long as the buyer lives" scripts existed! Sorry!

Remember, in my formula I used only 1 tab, this means: - No VIP / sponsor costs. - I'll be (very) generous and deduct 1K for 5 years of membership. 5K from a 5$ investment. Something still doesn't seem fair. For every dollar you invested in buying a script and running it on a free bot you got thousand in return. Even with a monthly fee of 5$/month you would still have made only 300$ less over those 5 years. That's 4700$ from a 300$ investment, still doesn't seem very fair but most writers will be content with it. Where did you get the official definition of lifetime again? Go ahead and ask for a refund, you'll lose (read the TOS).

That's 10M in RSGP. 200K/h * 6h/ day * 45 days = that's 45M. You tripled your investment, how was that a bad deal? Now let's apply this formula to your definition of lifetime. I'll give lifetime a value of 5 years to be fair with you. 200K/h * 6h/ day * 1825 days = that's 2.2B = that's around 6K$ with the current rates. That is if you use only 1 tab. So, over 5 years you could be making 6K$ from a product quite easily and in return the script writer gets 5$ from you. How is this fair towards the script provider?

Which script are you talking about?

Bullshit, don't play the poor kid card on me. Ever heard about gold-farmers? Don't compare a clause concerning the rights of the owners to a rule that forbids teenagers to join the site, they are totally unrelated (except for being on the same page). I was also skeptical of this solution, but without any relevant data to back up your claims / my doubts or without a proposition of a better solution, I don't think the owners will change their mind. I guess the "lifetime" you paid for is about to end. Sorry.

Your point? The fact that the minimum age rule isn't being respected doesn't give the vague concept of "lifetime" any more meaning. There's no rule enforcing script writers to make updates either. You are inventing rights for yourself out of nowhere. Money from who? The stream of new users? No. You have absolutely no idea of how low the the financial return is in comparison to the invested time (coding, customer support, marketing, etc...) with the current system. The "potential money" you are talking about would only come from new users and those are too rare, the rest of the target market has been exhausted, either instancing or monthly payments (or both) will revive the market and this will not only advantage the script writers. Again, new users are too sparse.

An update CAN be a brand new product (e.g. operating systems). The lifetime fee doesn't include anything, the only thing it means is that you don't have to pay monthly. Feel free to prove me wrong, I couldn't find any statement in the TOS concerning "lifetime products" I did find this though: You realize that that would be a lose - lose situation right?

So you expect the provider of a script to update / rewrite its product into a brand new one and then give it away for free to the people who bought the initial product it was based upon? Who is going to pay for that dev time then? The revenue from new users won't do considering the stream of those is too small.

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If its an account you care much about I suggest you stop botting