RServiceGeeks Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 So I have a few questions, I have a pretty big site being made right now and in a couple of days ill be hiring loads of workers. For the past two days I've been discussing with some friends on there methods for contracting workers. Usually I would have workers pay a down payment and they get it back whenever they decide to leave if they don't have any pending work but I have learned that, that method can keep you with a lot of turnovers as far as employment goes. So I was thinking something as such, Workers would pay something like 20-30m down payment but they would be contracted to work 1-3 months before they are eligible to receive the down payment back, hence remembering that workers will be ranging from CSGO boosters to League Boosters to RS skillers and questers. In terms of turn overs and keeping workers employed what do you guys think? Really need advise in terms of a business aspect so please if you don't know what a turn over is please do not post on the thread, no spam and no random chit chat please, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBron Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 A good pay will keep your workers happy and lower the scamrate%. But I'm guessing the margins you have to work with don't allow much compared to a normal job salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RServiceGeeks Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 A good pay will keep your workers happy and lower the scamrate%. But I'm guessing the margins you have to work with don't allow much compared to a normal job salary. Would be equivalent to about $6-$7 per hour id say as a rough estimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botre Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 No way anyone is going to give you 20-30M. that's just too much of a comittement and risk just to be allowed to work for you :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RServiceGeeks Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 No way anyone is going to give you 20-30M. that's just too much of a comittement and risk just to be allowed to work for you Well 20-30m is nothing compared to what they would make in a week, one worker 52m for one order which took em 3-4 days. Which is like 100$ for 3-4 days or work but think of how much in one day is actually used on actually working on a RS order, but its still in the thought process 20-30m was just a throw out number but its being considered to be honest simple because of the amount of work that I process per week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCoach Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 20-30m, and a good chance their first order will be 50m+. The hourly rate doesn't compare, but you are basically multitasking while playing your own account depending on what you are doing. Without the down payment, nothing keeps them from just leaving whenever they want, thus screwing the service over on orders that they may be in the process of completing or will be taking soon. Its a tough situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decode Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I'd say its quite an ideal layout tbh. You guarantee a commitment from the workers that way. You wouldn't want people abandoning the ship after a week of work and if it happened alot you might suffer a shortage of workers hence delaying orders/giving refunds. So yeah its a pretty good system to go through with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Either a time delay for the refund or an amount of orders completed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stixx Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) 20-30m is a very high buy-in. If you want people who are actually good at services to join you as a worker, then you will need some type of guarantee of consistent jobs every day or large orders with a high payout. Hiring a lot of people is not always a good thing unless you believe you will have enough work every day to pass around among everyone. Go for quality over quantity Edited May 31, 2015 by Stixx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RServiceGeeks Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) 20-30m is a very high buy-in. If you want people who are actually good at services to join you as a worker, then you will need some type of guarantee of consistent jobs every day or large orders with a high payout. Hiring a lot of people is not always a good thing. Go for quality over quantity Not what I'm asking the DP price is not what i'm inquiring about, also when I say hiring a bit of workers I mean workers for each phase of work not a big bundle of workers. Edited May 31, 2015 by ServerGeeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stixx Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Not what I'm asking the DP price is not what i'm inquiring about. In relation to your OP, I think a contract could work with retention. Another interesting idea I would try out is paying them some of the buy-in back based on number of orders completed. This would give them an incentive to keep grinding out as many orders as possible. This allows workers to work towards a goal and possibly once they earn their buy-in back, you can add other incentives towards continual order completion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RServiceGeeks Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 In relation to your OP, I think a contract could work with retention. Another interesting idea I would try out is paying them some of the buy-in back based on number of orders completed. This would give them an incentive to keep grinding out as many orders as possible. This allows workers to work towards a goal and possibly once they earn their buy-in back, you can add other incentives towards continual order completion. Incentives good idea ill look into some something like a bonus plan or something, thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vag Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 It is not legal to ask your hired employer for a 'security' deposit which will be only given back if you decide to keep the employee on your paylist. My recommendation is that you would pay your employees a 7-10$ / hour and have a solid contracts with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varc Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 The problem you are going to have is there can only be a limited trust when hiring workers online, unfortunately there is no possibility of a face value interview to get more of an evaluation on what that person is like. Some people will not care that if they scam this could ruin your business and possibly your livelihood. You have to prepare for these situations. My best advice would be pay your workers well to give them more of an incentive not to scam. Even then some people are dumb and just out to make a quick buck and don't think of long term financial gain. I wish you the best but i hope you really consider who you hire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RServiceGeeks Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) It is not legal to ask your hired employer for a 'security' deposit which will be only given back if you decide to keep the employee on your paylist. My recommendation is that you would pay your employees a 7-10$ / hour and have a solid contracts with them. ^ this is in the thought process I have been thinking of it quite a bit, what I have come with is I would have to have a set time limit for each task being dispatched for instance say a worker is doing Tree Gnome Village the work time for that would be lets say 15 minutes and they would be paid if so $10 per hour so basically 15 minutes of an hour. That is something I was thinking of. The problem you are going to have is there can only be a limited trust when hiring workers online, unfortunately there is no possibility of a face value interview to get more of an evaluation on what that person is like. Some people will not care that if they scam this could ruin your business and possibly your livelihood. You have to prepare for these situations. My best advice would be pay your workers well to give them more of an incentive not to scam. Even then some people are dumb and just out to make a quick buck and don't think of long term financial gain. I wish you the best but i hope you really consider who you hire. Yes that is always the problem with online scum but I have basically come up with a 3 step interview process going to be testing it out over the next few weeks to see how effective it is but I'm sure no scumbag scammers will get past me lol. Edited May 31, 2015 by ServerGeeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
