Gildarts Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 No support, sorry. :\ As Master had stated, when they are under trial and they know their every move is being judged and evaluated, they will act different. And building off of what Mikasa said, it's easy to revoke a position just as easily as it was to make the promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikasa Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Or, give them full mod, and if they don't do well, take it away. This lol, even though its biased towards you since your new mod and these topic is probably about you but yeah. I wouldn't really say it's biased towards me, since I was already given mod, and this is about before making someone a mod. I'd support this is you were able to apply to be a moderator, but the current mods were all hand picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kati2 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I thought about this for a while before creating the staff team. After plenty of thinking, definitely not. Pros: - Superficial reassurance that makes random members feel more secure about the soon to be global or soon to be not global. Cons: - Hidden image of the user's real intentions. (They'll step up their game during trial and drop it once they have global. All you're doing is showing them that they've passed the test stage and you're implying that their position is now secure.) - More work for everyone. - More complaints by members about the trial moderator. - Unable to limit moderation abilities, meaning they would technically be a global. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSnipeLikeGod Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Someone getting mod isn't a procedure taken lightly at all. I'm sure anyone who gets mod is well deserving of it if the other staff thinks so. I see no reason to limit them at all. Let them be a mod, they can learn as they go, and when in doubt they can ask someone more experienced first before swinging their big epeen around. I'm a member of various forums and I've never seen it done this way either, I think it's fine as is. I agree to this, 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotRS123 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I think mods should be given a trial, without full mod power, but basically the same. Just test them out, see how they would do if they were given all that power I could see the trial working like this - Theyll be labeled as a training moderator, and every action they make, whether its locking threads, banning, hiding posts/thread, must be reviewed by an actual moderator or admin before it actually happens. This mod will be judged by the community, other mods, and admins at the end of the trial period This wil stop everyone from bitching about new mods and current mods, who haven't seemed to even earn the position in the eyes of the community in the first place I like your idea, but I think @Raflesia screens them over time like check their behavior, helpfulness, reports, etc. I don't think community feedback matters as much since the ultimate decision is up to the staff. There will always be people bitching. With that said, I still like your idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 No support, as you've seen from the recent promotions, they perform better with the rank and alot more honest than when they are working for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 No support, when the staff promotes an user it is because he/she deserves it and we put faith in them. Giving them a small piece of the "power" isn't going to help. In fact they barely can do anything, I have seen this on other forums and it's a bad idea as the trial barely can proof himself/herself with such a little acess. Also the community shouldn't decide whetever someone should stay or not, those opinions are only biased on how much you like/dislike the person, or out of jealousy. The staff team has promoted 2 new Moderators, and they are doing great, so what's up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolmanden Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 It sounds great, but not important. Trial moderator sounds ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTi Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Support, for reasons stated. It let's all the community know they're on trial so it will save a lot of members bitching about new moderators (like the situation with Anne.) If they're bad in the trial period as a Mod they can fall back on the "we're trial mods for a reason", this gets them out of any situation they may not be comfortable with. It also gives them a taster and after the trial period IF offered a spot on the staff team they can then choose yes/no based on their experience. Full support on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Put someone on a trial and they could (and most likely will) act very good, but as soon as they "have the position secured" they will change I would support it in the future possibly .. as of now though, I'm not convinced. No support. this, and it would be a paradise for trolls, no support. i see absolutely no point in this, as when a mod isn't doing good, you can just take away the mod rank :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raflesia Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I think mods should be given a trial, without full mod power, but basically the same. Just test them out, see how they would do if they were given all that power I could see the trial working like this - Theyll be labeled as a training moderator, and every action they make, whether its locking threads, banning, hiding posts/thread, must be reviewed by an actual moderator or admin before it actually happens. This mod will be judged by the community, other mods, and admins at the end of the trial period As Kati said, this is technically not possible (unless I write a plugin for this, and change a lot of the current moderator API). I don't really see a reason to do so though. As said by several people, trial moderators would do everything to look good, but when they have the promotion in their pocket, they will change. This will only cause more issues. Moderators are picked carefully and are screened by me before any promotion takes place. I also do a few tests with them, without them knowing I am testing their moderator capabilities. I can promise that I take promotions really serious, and I really believe in the moderators we pick. This wil stop everyone from bitching about new mods and current mods, who haven't seemed to even earn the position in the eyes of the community in the first place There will always be complains towards moderators, those turns out false most of the times, luckily. People will always complain when they receive a infraction, it is the same as hating the police just because you received a fine, which was in your eyes unnecessary, although you know that you were misbehaving. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fused Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 No I think of regular members as "Trial Mods" If you're helpful, kind, and intelligent you may get offered Mod.If you're rude, cause problems for mods, and make no sense you will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloha Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) I have to support this. I see potential problems in the future that could've been avoided by this. Sounds like a Support rank lol. Edited September 13, 2013 by Gargoyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterGriffin Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 If you would give them a trial they would be doing their best and stop doing their best if theyre a full mod So trial doesnt really work.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Mods shouldn't be judged by the community. They should be decided by the admins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...