Need a new computer

[Alvin]

 So basically, my current computer sucks complete ass and I want a new one. My current one can't even run mirror client without lagging and can barely play RS3. I might buy/build a new computer since Black Friday = cheap stuff, so if you have a good computer in the budget of 700$, pls share so I can love you forever

 

Thanks

 

Alvin 

[Apathy]

pm quick

[Keven]

Does this build include keyboard/mouse/monitor/os?

[ILikeToCheat]

Wait until monday and build one online. Everything will be on sale.

[womenbecrazy]

Wait until monday and build one online. Everything will be on sale.

there's really good sales right now on newegg and amazon

[Ericthecmh]

209.99 CPU: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448665928&sr=8-1&keywords=core+i5+4690k

 

84.99 RAM: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-CMY16GX3M2A2400C11R/dp/B00EUPV2RQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448666089&sr=8-1&keywords=ram+16gb

 

71.33 SSD: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448666109&sr=1-1&keywords=ssd

 

47.99 Motherboard: http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-MicroATX-Motherboard-H81M-E33/dp/B00F42W70A/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448666138&sr=1-1&keywords=motherboard+1150

 

49.99 PSU: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-BRONZE-Continuous-Warranty-100-B1-0600-KR/dp/B00EON40CS/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448666161&sr=1-1&keywords=600+Watt+power+supply

 

119.99 GFX Card: http://www.amazon.com/GeForce-750Ti-GDDR5-Graphics-GTX750TI-OC-2GD5/dp/B00IB9P1KG/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448666199&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+750

 

46.99 Case: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=atx+case

 

Total: 591.27

 

Specs:

 

CPU: i5-4690k (quadcore, more than good enough for rs)

RAM: 16GB (19200)

HARD: 250GB SSD

GFX: GTX 750Ti

 

 

It's a pretty good setup, will be able to play rs easily, and handle some intensive computing tasks.

 

If you really want to future proof, look for a DDR4 MB and RAM.

[Volta]

Does this build include keyboard/mouse/monitor/os?

U forgot chair/minifridge/doritos/mountain dew

[Lemons]

 

 

All those parts total to $631.27, not $591.27 (rebates or something?).

 

Heres nearly the same build, with a slightly better PSU (80+ Gold instead of Bronze) for $594. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6KCD99. Some gripes with this build though:

 

- Mobo only has 2 slots for RAM and max 16GB of RAM

- Mobo PCI Slots nearly non-existent

 

Basically, everything you'd expect from a super cheap board. Not a lot of upgrade paths, if anything swap out a better mobo to replace this one. The rest is pretty solid.

 

Also, unless you like being an early adopter, its best to wait on DDR4. At the moment, there is no real clear evidence it'll help your applications perform better unless they are bottlenecked by your RAM. Though, DDR4 ram doesn't seem to be too much more than DDR3 so might be worth it but this build will not support it.

 

Benchmarks for DDR3/DDR4:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8959/ddr4-haswell-e-scaling-review-2133-to-3200-with-gskill-corsair-adata-and-crucial/8

Edited November 28, 2015 by Lemons

[Rudie]

209.99 CPU: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448665928&sr=8-1&keywords=core+i5+4690k

84.99 RAM: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-CMY16GX3M2A2400C11R/dp/B00EUPV2RQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448666089&sr=8-1&keywords=ram+16gb

71.33 SSD: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448666109&sr=1-1&keywords=ssd

47.99 Motherboard: http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-MicroATX-Motherboard-H81M-E33/dp/B00F42W70A/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448666138&sr=1-1&keywords=motherboard+1150

49.99 PSU: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-BRONZE-Continuous-Warranty-100-B1-0600-KR/dp/B00EON40CS/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448666161&sr=1-1&keywords=600+Watt+power+supply

119.99 GFX Card: http://www.amazon.com/GeForce-750Ti-GDDR5-Graphics-GTX750TI-OC-2GD5/dp/B00IB9P1KG/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448666199&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+750

46.99 Case: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=atx+case

Total: 591.27

Specs:

CPU: i5-4690k (quadcore, more than good enough for rs)

RAM: 16GB (19200)

HARD: 250GB SSD

GFX: GTX 750Ti

It's a pretty good setup, will be able to play rs easily, and handle some intensive computing tasks.

If you really want to future proof, look for a DDR4 MB and RAM.

Don't cut down on the motherboard, cheap motherboards will get you problems way faster than a somewhat more expensive good one. Also I'm pretty sure he would need a new Skylake or X99 cpu to even support DDR4 RAM.

[Ericthecmh]

Don't cut down on the motherboard, cheap motherboards will get you problems way faster than a somewhat more expensive good one. Also I'm pretty sure he would need a new Skylake or X99 cpu to even support DDR4 RAM.

 

Good point, since it would be a different chipset. Nice catch.

 

Either way, I don't really think DDR4 is all that important, especially right now since it's so new. Unless you're doing high memory intensive things the improved throughput might not be worth it.

 

Anyways, if you want DDR4 there's still >100 bucks of leeway to upgrade the MB, RAM, and CPU.

All those parts total to $631.27, not $591.27 (rebates or something?).

 

Heres nearly the same build, with a slightly better PSU (80+ Gold instead of Bronze) for $594. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6KCD99. Some gripes with this build though:

 

- Mobo only has 2 slots for RAM and max 16GB of RAM

- Mobo PCI Slots nearly non-existent

 

Basically, everything you'd expect from a super cheap board. Not a lot of upgrade paths, if anything swap out a better mobo to replace this one. The rest is pretty solid.

 

Also, unless you like being an early adopter, its best to wait on DDR4. At the moment, there is no real clear evidence it'll help your applications perform better unless they are bottlenecked by your RAM. Though, DDR4 ram doesn't seem to be too much more than DDR3 so might be worth it but this build will not support it.

 

Benchmarks for DDR3/DDR4:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8959/ddr4-haswell-e-scaling-review-2133-to-3200-with-gskill-corsair-adata-and-crucial/8

 

No point in getting a gold PSU unless it's also cheaper imo. It doesn't actually affect performance.

 

I was using amazon pricing, but I might have added wrong LOL

[Lemons]

Good point, since it would be a different chipset. Nice catch.

 

Either way, I don't really think DDR4 is all that important, especially right now since it's so new. Unless you're doing high memory intensive things the improved throughput might not be worth it.

 

Anyways, if you want DDR4 there's still >100 bucks of leeway to upgrade the MB, RAM, and CPU.

 

No point in getting a gold PSU unless it's also cheaper imo. It doesn't actually affect performance.

 

I was using amazon pricing, but I might have added wrong LOL

 

Doesn't affect performance, but does effect your electric bill and how long the PSU will last (more efficient = cooler running = longer life). But, as long as its 80+ Bronze or better it won't be terrible. Also another reason I choose the PSU was it was semi-modular, so you don't have to have a bunch of extra cords running around the case. Personally, I prefer to spend the most money on my PSU as that is the backbone of the system, followed by the mobo.

[Ericthecmh]

Doesn't affect performance, but does effect your electric bill and how long the PSU will last (more efficient = cooler running = longer life). But, as long as its 80+ Bronze or better it won't be terrible. Also another reason I choose the PSU was it was semi-modular, so you don't have to have a bunch of extra cords running around the case. Personally, I prefer to spend the most money on my PSU as that is the backbone of the system, followed by the mobo.

 

Well, if you do the math, the electric bill doesn't actually balance the cost unless you leave it running straight when it's between Bronze or Silver/Gold/Platinum (I think).

 

I've always gone for a cheap PSU and good other things, been good so far :P

[Rudie]

Doesn't affect performance, but does effect your electric bill and how long the PSU will last (more efficient = cooler running = longer life). But, as long as its 80+ Bronze or better it won't be terrible. Also another reason I choose the PSU was it was semi-modular, so you don't have to have a bunch of extra cords running around the case. Personally, I prefer to spend the most money on my PSU as that is the backbone of the system, followed by the mobo.

Spending most money on your psu is just stupid, 80+ bronze is perfectly fine for this build, spending more money on your mobo or graphics card will benefit you more than an 80+ gold psu.

[Lemons]

Spending most money on your psu is just stupid, 80+ bronze is perfectly fine for this build, spending more money on your mobo or graphics card will benefit you more than an 80+ gold psu.

 

I've burnt through far too many PSUs to consider it stupid. But, to each their own. And graphics card is the last part I care about lol.

 

Well, if you do the math, the electric bill doesn't actually balance the cost unless you leave it running straight when it's between Bronze or Silver/Gold/Platinum (I think).

 

I've always gone for a cheap PSU and good other things, been good so far 

 

5% of 236W is 11.8W. 11.8W over the course of a month is ~8.614KW. Given electric where I cost (can be cheaper elsewhere) is $0.18/KW, that is $1.55/mo. Would take 7 months (of continuous run time) to pay itself off. This is also not including the reduced wear on the hardware (due to the reduced heat). And again, semi-modular is worth it in my opinion.

Edited November 28, 2015 by Lemons