Cinnamon Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 We already bot, so why not rwt? I think these trades should occur at both parties risk. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varc Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Strongly agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roar Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Agreed, it's not like we particularly care for the in-game rules so as long as the transactions are secured on both parties sides it should be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Maldesto Posted February 3, 2015 Administrator Share Posted February 3, 2015 Easier scams. I let you use my account, i take a picture of it having 50M on it, i then xfer the 50M to my other account say you stole it. You have to pay 50M or you're banned. You can't prove it either can I. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme Scripts Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Easier scams. I let you use my account, i take a picture of it having 50M on it, i then xfer the 50M to my other account say you stole it. You have to pay 50M or you're banned. You can't prove it either can I. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 This.[/quoteThen make a rule the amount on the account won't matter. Just the acc. Like I said, at their risk. Feel free to rent or commission stake but your risking your own biscuit, so you find someone highly reputable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme Scripts Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 This.[/quoteThen make a rule the amount on the account won't matter. Just the acc. Like I said, at their risk. Feel free to rent or commission stake but your risking your own biscuit, so you find someone highly reputable. Well in essence, we will have a greater number of scam reports (possibly) due to users trying to pull a fast one. The more scammers we have the more it taints the reputation of OSBot, for that reason I never will support this or any gambling for that matter. This is just my opinion though ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 Well in essence, we will have a greater number of scam reports (possibly) due to users trying to pull a fast one. The more scammers we have the more it taints the reputation of OSBot, for that reason I never will support this or any gambling for that matter. This is just my opinion though ^_^ More market options = more market influx = more scams. It's both a positive and a negative trade off but I belive it's beneficial for the community. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Maldesto Posted February 3, 2015 Administrator Share Posted February 3, 2015 More market options = more market influx = more scams. It's both a positive and a negative trade off but I belive it's beneficial for the community. Account rentals are never beneficial for the community. 9/10 times it ends in a scam or an accused scam. If you sell an account it is far less than that or gold for that matter. Betting is something I didn't put in the rules, and I wouldn't be against changing it, since if you use a MM it should be simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 Account rentals are never beneficial for the community. 9/10 times it ends in a scam or an accused scam. If you sell an account it is far less than that or gold for that matter. Betting is something I didn't put in the rules, and I wouldn't be against changing it, since if you use a MM it should be simple.in a sense you basically described commission staking. If you post a set of rules on Gambling then it will be benificial. I can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trustmybet Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Easier scams. I let you use my account, i take a picture of it having 50M on it, i then xfer the 50M to my other account say you stole it. You have to pay 50M or you're banned. You can't prove it either can I. By account rentals = staking.... People don't carry their banks on accounts for renting maxed mains. Just saying. lol. Thats why you pay for the hour + leave a deposit for the charge of the whip in case of scams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 By account rentals = staking.... People don't carry their banks on accounts for renting maxed mains. Just saying. lol. Thats why you pay for the hour + leave a deposit for the charge of the whip in case of scams. Collateral can also be issued. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whopper Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 There's too much risk and not enough reward to allow account rentals. I'm all for free market, however strict rules would have to be put in place in order to offer it in any market. The administration would have to say that some things regarding account rentals simply can't be disputed. For example: Indisputables: Items on the account that weren't being used (or granted access via the owner of said account) cannot be disputed. Offenses obtained during the account rental other than a macroing/bot offense cannot be disputed. Cautions: ALWAYS take pictures of the last IP on the account (if you're the one with the lent account) Carefully read the ToS regarding that specific loaner Only lend to trusted users to limit risk Etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 There's too much risk and not enough reward to allow account rentals. I'm all for free market, however strict rules would have to be put in place in order to offer it in any market. The administration would have to say that some things regarding account rentals simply can't be disputed. For example: Indisputables: Items on the account that weren't being used (or granted access via the owner of said account) cannot be disputed. Offenses obtained during the account rental other than a macroing/bot offense cannot be disputed. Cautions: ALWAYS take pictures of the last IP on the account (if you're the one with the lent account) Carefully read the ToS regarding that specific loaner Only lend to trusted users to limit risk Etc Also they can be pre-approved by staff decision. This does not make them dependable though. Just suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whopper Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Also they can be pre-approved by staff decision. This does not make them dependable though. Just suggestions. That is true! That could potentially become a stress on staff but it's probable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
