Jeff Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) [member=Botrepreneur] came to everyone and the chat explained how the devs were unmotivated. He said the hate is partially causing this and that we need to compliment them for the work they do and not just the stuff not done. I have a couple ideas... The main thing I said is the devs never associated themselves within the community. We don't see them as people because we don't know who they are. Understand that everyone has feelings, and to get an insane amount of hate can destroy a person from the inside out. They need to come to the chat; speak with the users that they never chat too, understand what they want with the bot and don't want. They should post on suggestions why it wouldn't work and why it would. Post on graphic designs with what they like about it. This may seem pointless but as a community getting to see who they are, personally I wouldn't be able to insult them if I could understand how much they put into and the hate they actually get. The community is dying and it's obvious. There used to be near 100 people in chat at times (when client was down) but no one seems to give a fuck if the client is down or not anymore. A lot of users have moved on but stay for the community but if it's just the dedicated users left there isn't much to actually converse about. A lot of things have been implemented that we dislike... 1. Monthly fees for scripts. I think many people would be open for this if they were promised quality scripts. 2. Losing scripts in OSbot. I can understand that scripters wouldn't stay if they had to redo all there scripts without payment, but there must have been another way especially with monthly fees on every script. 3. (Taking suggestions) and a lot of things have been ignored that we would like... 1. Better anti-ban in scripts. Scripts now-a-days need better anti-ban because of JaGex's system and with the monthly fees I think as a community I can say we deserve better quality scripts. (Don't get me wrong, there are some great one but a lot of mediocre scripts for premium.) 2. Harder testing to see if a script is actually worth premium prices. Would help the better anti-ban and prices. 3. (Taking suggestions) I would like to see a huge community response because without everyone coming together and actually trying to do things differently OSbot could be gone pretty soon. Edited August 10, 2014 by Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoomScape Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 This isn't a forum error or bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swaq Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I actually read through the whole thing, nice man, you put thought into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 great topic jeff, devs need to listen to the community though and be more active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debot Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Lets just make an osbot 3, that would fix everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertkbd97 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Lets just make an osbot 3, that would fix everything eta 3 years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chief Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 This thread had potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 This is a serious thread <_< we need suggestions on what they can do to help the community and the bot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botre Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) They are inactive because of lack on incentives (emotional, financial) and / or just lack of time. Nice read. 1. Monthly fees for scripts Monthly and/or higher fees are a requirement for proper financial incentives. Because the community refused these changes to the market, they get less or less-quality updates (because there's less money to pay for development time) 2. Losing scripts in OSbot 2 This was a necessary action to keep their scriptwriters. 2. Harder testing to see if a script is actually worth premium prices They were actually up for this, but the scripters couldn't agree on a system for this. Edited August 10, 2014 by Botrepreneur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoomScape Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 This thread had potential Yeah, until you read the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 They are inactive because of lack on incentives (emotional, financial) and / or just lack of time. Nice read. Monthly and/or higher fees are a requirement for proper financial incentives. Because the community refused these changes to the market, they get less or less-quality updates (because there's less money to pay for development time) This was a necessary action to keep their scriptwriters. They were actually up for this, but the scripters couldn't agree on a system for this. I don't feel like they properly informed the community. People still come back to this day wondering where their scripts are. I don't think people would be against monthly fees and or higher payments if quality was there. Though some scripters have a lot of great scripts, there are some out there that put minimal effort yet they're still awarded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botre Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I don't feel like they properly informed the community Couldn't agree more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorilla Sensei Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Not to mention if enough hate is generated for these people that have access to the api... nomsayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Maldesto Posted August 10, 2014 Administrator Share Posted August 10, 2014 We tried number 1, and it failed. We had to do number 2 for the script writers to stay, and still a few left. Second section, the client needs to be better before we worry about anti ban on scripts. We can't figure out a solution for premium scripts, that is why the system is like it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 We tried number 1, and it failed. We had to do number 2 for the script writers to stay, and still a few left. Second section, the client needs to be better before we worry about anti ban on scripts. We can't figure out a solution for premium scripts, that is why the system is like it is now. Well like I said, no one really knows what they have done because no one is communicating it. It's good to know what you guys have done and to come together as a community I think we could find a solution for all of us. And for the anti-ban, the scripters would worry about that while Laz and the other devs worry about making the client good. The client can be the best out there but if you're getting detected within a day of using it there are definitely going to be better options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
