RoomScape Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Evidently so due to my month old account. Please list what else gets somebody within the TWC bracket then? Also why would you say no unless you're scared that one day you may scam or something and lose it all? Getting 100 posts to sell an account* Being accused of scamming. Being accused of ban evading/scamming on another site. Being under a dispute. Getting hacked. Being suspicious in the market. There are others, but I can't be asked to research them, it's your job to do so and put up a compelling argument since you're the one trying to prove us wrong, not the other way around. And I just don't like the idea. I have no plans of scamming one day. Even if I did - and this was implemented - I would make it worth my time in that case to make sure I get as much as I could seeing as how I wouldn't come back. I find it funny how you're on here just to sell an account - which is obviously evident from the fact that your 101th post was a thread in the account section of you selling an account - and then claim I'm scared of supporting this since I'll scam. This idea just isn't that great. There are too many flaws in it and inconsistencies that the users of this site don't agree with. Now, if you want this to move forward, you should have a detailed post explaining when people should have their feedback deleted and also what happens afterwards - should they ever decide to come back. You should also list what should happen if - god forbid - someone is falsely accused and then has all of their feedback removed. What would happen then? This idea would also support people who are scamquitting or scamming in any way, shape or form to just go out in a bang and get as much as they can. You wrote two vague sentences and four extremely short lines explaining your idea that could potentially crush anyone who's active in the market due to a false review or a mistake on the staff's part - yes, there are mistakes within scam reports. Unless this is completely revamped and has everything explained down to the smallest detail showing why someone should lose their fb and what circumstances would have to be met before that happens - along with what would happen should someone falsely lose their fb - I don't see myself supporting this, sorry. Also, this would be quite annoying on the mods. You can't mass delete feedbacks, it's a one by one situation - unless a new mod came out for this. Therefore, if someone has 100 feedback and their fb would be deleted by mods, they would have to delete each and every feedback individually which would take some time. Doing this over and over would prove extremely vexing. But that's my reasoning behind why I don't support this. Evidently so due to my month old account. Please list what else gets somebody within the TWC bracket then? Also why would you say no unless you're scared that one day you may scam or something and lose it all? This is what has me worried. You said only people who scammed and have been prove to have scammed would have their rep deleted? So why would you mention 'or something'? That part makes me feel uneasy and that basically anyone under TWC would have their feedback deleted, which I'm just completely against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Maldesto Posted June 4, 2014 Administrator Share Posted June 4, 2014 Don't scam to begin with, its not changing. It is case by case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Tricks Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 Don't scam to begin with, its not changing. It is case by case. That's all I wanted to hear was a straight forward answer, not the arguing that did happen because somebody didn't like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Maldesto Posted June 4, 2014 Administrator Share Posted June 4, 2014 That's all I wanted to hear was a straight forward answer, not the arguing that did happen because somebody didn't like the idea. If someone gets set up or has 1,000 feedback and their paypal gets locked etc. We handle it different than someone scam quitting and paying back a week later because they want to use the bot again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikasa Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Well, we put people in TWC at the beginning of a dispute. Since they're given TWC, we should just remove all of their feedback? What if the person is being framed? I dun support, since it's kind of flawed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwtonrs1 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 OR, anyone that scams, regardless if it's $1 or $1000, IP ban them and don't let them come back? I don't understand why people are given second chances when they scam...stupid as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Tricks Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) Well, we put people in TWC at the beginning of a dispute. Since they're given TWC, we should just remove all of their feedback? What if the person is being framed? I dun support, since it's kind of flawed. It clearly says if it is proven that they have scammed. You're a super mod you should read more, anyways Maldesto said no to it already so close this thread. If someone gets set up or has 1,000 feedback and their paypal gets locked etc. We handle it different than someone scam quitting and paying back a week later because they want to use the bot again. Yes but like I said, it would have to be proven that they 'scammed' If somebodys PayPal got locked for instance I saw Bawsz did and he had to pay back, He showed proof of it being locked, PayPal calls etc. Whereas somebody buys 20M GP through PayPal, then successfully Charges back a payment therefore scamming the user(as he would of filed the charge back and PayPal only 'Holds' the money), even if he returns the gold, he should be placed in TWC & have his reputation removed as this was infact an attempted scam. Edited June 5, 2014 by Mind Tricks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikasa Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 It clearly says if it is proven that they have scammed. You're a super mod you should read more, anyways Maldesto said no to it already so close this thread. Yes but like I said, it would have to be proven that they 'scammed' If somebodys PayPal got locked for instance I saw Bawsz did and he had to pay back, He showed proof of it being locked, PayPal calls etc. Whereas somebody buys 20M GP through PayPal, then successfully Charges back a payment therefore scamming the user(as he would of filed the charge back and PayPal only 'Holds' the money), even if he returns the gold, he should be placed in TWC & have his reputation removed. What's the point of having a tl;dr if you're going to cry about people not fully reading your post? Be more clear in your tl;dr next time. Just because I'm a super mod doesn't mean I have all the time in the world to read every post :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Tricks Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 What's the point of having a tl;dr if you're going to cry about people not fully reading your post? Be more clear in your tl;dr next time. Just because I'm a super mod doesn't mean I have all the time in the world to read every post the tldr was to point out the stages of which it would happen Dispute is made - gets twc Found guilty in dispute but refunds - loses TWC and rep for attempted scam Keeps TWC after loss of reputation loses TWC after however many months depending on amount scammed and he has to rebuild from sratch again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzbeat Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Am I the only one who supports this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliot Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 How Eliot would do do it: If you scam, you get IP banned or you can refund and return with permanent TWC and feedback reset (except negatives/neutrals). If you dox, you get IP banned. If you ddos someone, you get IP banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Target Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 No support, this isn't HF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoomScape Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I would say only remove fb from the people who are blatantly fb farming through fake fb. That's the only time I'd say fb should be removed. Otherwise, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chief Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I do not support this. Leaving a negative feedback wouldn't be a bad idea, but removing all their accomplishments and work in the market would be a bit extreme and very aggravating for someone that had it happen to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Maldesto Posted June 7, 2014 Administrator Share Posted June 7, 2014 How it is, is how it will stay. It is case by case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...