Banned without using a script PART 2

[Hybris]

Hello there!

This is part 2 because I'm referring to my previous post:

 

The post was about that I was banned using the osbot client without using any script. It was determined that it was just a delayed ban because I bought the account off tutorial island so the tutorial island part was botted.
But I wanted to try me chances, so I sent an appeal to Jagex, and guess what... My ban got quashed!

Hold the applause now, because today I decided to log back in on the account (couple days after the ban got quashed) so I could continue training some skills manually before actually botting on the account. Last ban I was doing agility but I wasn't done with that yet, so I continued doing agility.

After about 20 minutes of agility, I get a disconnect & bam, permanently banned.

 

I was definitely being human-like (unless I am a robot) & this time it wasn't a delayed ban, yet I still got a perm. Weird.

Any thoughts?
Hybris

[zwaffel]

What is your OS ?

[Hybris]

19 minutes ago, zwaffel said:

What is your OS ?

Windows 10, why?

Edited June 28, 2019 by Hybris

[LeBron]

Shitlisted proxy or they're detecting OSBot client, the latter is highly unlikely 

[Hybris]

1 hour ago, LeBron said:

Shitlisted proxy or they're detecting OSBot client, the latter is highly unlikely 

Yea that was my guess too, that's too bad because I bought from a trusted proxy seller here on OSBot

[FuryShark]

Same thing happened to be, got a ban quashed and then banned 2 days later without any botting

[Imthabawse]

Odd that they'd ban right after being quashed.. makes me think these are automated bans OR they simply seen account was botted before without reviewing the case and simply re-banned.

[Maldesto]

2 hours ago, Hybris said:

Yea that was my guess too, that's too bad because I bought from a trusted proxy seller here on OSBot

Who did you buy it from? (Feel free to pm me if you don't want to post it here) PLEASE tell me you didn't buy the proxy from the same person you bought the account from, if so please make a dispute as this should not be happening.

 

Lets have a little experiment, 

New Acc

New Proxy/Use your HOME IP

Play Legit on the client, do not bot anything, do not buy a tut island account, MAKE THE ACCOUNT YOURSELF

1 week let me know how its going  

1 minute ago, Imthabawse said:

Odd that they'd ban right after being quashed.. makes me think these are automated bans OR they simply seen account was botted before without reviewing the case and simply re-banned.

I would imagine he got banned because

Account created > Botted tut island ALL ON 1 IP 

Account sold > Delayed Ban on another IP 

Same IP that got the delay ban got it quashed

Unban happens user uses ANOTHER IP from a new location to log in. They probably seen 3 different ips + tut island botted and said cya.

[Hybris]

1 hour ago, Imthabawse said:

Odd that they'd ban right after being quashed.. makes me think these are automated bans OR they simply seen account was botted before without reviewing the case and simply re-banned.

This was the reason the ban was quashed:

After a comprehensive review of this account, we identified a period of unusual activity around the time of the offence. As a result, we've removed any offences which occurred during this time as we believe they were not committed by the creator of this account.
As described in our terms and conditions the account creator is responsible for the account's behaviour, so to prevent this from happening again we strongly advise you follow our guides on account security.

After reading it again this actually suggests that the account wasn't banned because of botting tutorial island, but because they actually thought I was botting on it right? I'm not the creator of the account, thus they unbanned it thinking it was hacked & then botted on it (although I actually played it, just on the osbot client).

2 hours ago, Maldesto said:

Who did you buy it from? (Feel free to pm me if you don't want to post it here) PLEASE tell me you didn't buy the proxy from the same person you bought the account from, if so please make a dispute as this should not be happening.

PM'd you the information.

2 hours ago, Maldesto said:

Lets have a little experiment, 

New Acc

New Proxy/Use your HOME IP

Play Legit on the client, do not bot anything, do not buy a tut island account, MAKE THE ACCOUNT YOURSELF

1 week let me know how its going  

I might actually try this, just to see if it would get banned again. The client being detected as a botting client would kinda be a problem.

2 hours ago, Maldesto said:

I would imagine he got banned because

Account created > Botted tut island ALL ON 1 IP 

Account sold > Delayed Ban on another IP 

Same IP that got the delay ban got it quashed

Unban happens user uses ANOTHER IP from a new location to log in. They probably seen 3 different ips + tut island botted and said cya.

I actually used the same IP after the ban for that exact reason. It was delayed banned on 1 IP, the same IP got the delay ban quashed so it'd make sense that I'd play the account again on the same IP. Changing IP's would only make it more suspicious.

But if it's actually like I stated above, and the ban happened not because of botting tutorial island but because Jagex thought I was botting when playing on the OSBot client, then it makes sense it just got banned again. Then the question still remains, why do they think I was botting? Even on a flagged IP I wouldn't be banned if I was playing on for example RuneLite right?

 

Hybris

[Naked]

Just for the sake of transparency and in the name of science:

• The account was a mod-rs account. 
• The account was a week rested (we generally have a 5-day threshold)
• Created/Tutorial done on the 6th of June
• Prime applied on the 14th of June
• Banned on the 20th of June

It could have been a few things in my opinion (in order of likeliness):

• Primes were flagged af. Our linker should have only linked a prime every few hours per IP, excluding rotations (probably 5 links per IP within a 2 day windows).
  • We did an internal bond vs prime test (both using aged accounts) and found that primes couldn't last the full weekend, even from other sources. We believe this just to be from primes being under a microscope during the event.
  • Probably in combination with something below:
• Extremely delayed ban. I'm doubtful this is even possible after 7 days.
• Flagged proxy. I've heard good things about your proxy source, although I have never tested them. It is still possible it's on a known datacenter subnet.

 

[Hybris]

20 minutes ago, Naked said:

Just for the sake of transparency and in the name of science:

• The account was a mod-rs account. 
• The account was a week rested (we generally have a 5-day threshold)
• Created/Tutorial done on the 6th of June
• Prime applied on the 14th of June
• Banned on the 20th of June

It could have been a few things in my opinion (in order of likeliness):

• Primes were flagged af. Our linker should have only linked a prime every few hours per IP, excluding rotations (probably 5 links per IP within a 2 day windows).
  • We did an internal bond vs prime test (both using aged accounts) and found that primes couldn't last the full weekend, even from other sources. We believe this just to be from primes being under a microscope during the event.
  • Probably in combination with something below:
• Extremely delayed ban. I'm doubtful this is even possible after 7 days.
• Flagged proxy. I've heard good things about your proxy source, although I have never tested them. It is still possible it's on a known datacenter subnet.

 

Just to add, the service mod-rs provide is great & any problem is solved very fast & well compensated for.

That being said, the primes do indeed seem to be closely monitored. I doubt it was an extremely delayed ban, not only because it took so long but also just because it was banned twice in a row.

Flagged proxy is possible, but I'd like to think that a flagged proxy wouldn't be enough ground for a permanent, unappealable ban right?

[Imthabawse]

Find it hard to believe playing off the OsBot client alone got you banned. I've been successfully botting a fresh account on n off (usually just mining/smithing) for around 2 months now. Accounts still going strong.