Rudie Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 what did you say? and why were you unbanned? I'd rather not talk about it because I'm not proud of what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decode Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1) It isn't really hard to do a simple google search on a user and find out what disputes he has against him/why he was banned. 2) No way is that happening. Probably illegal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerker Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Included in the above suggestion, any convicted scammer's original registered Email address is posted publicly. This will infringe on the DPA which would be very bad for OSbot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlagueDoctor Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 thats gonna be awkward when certain peoples ban reason says "banned for standing up against tyrannical mods" One would hope, if this was implemented, they'd make sure there is a legitimate reason before banning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappster Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 This will infringe on the DPA which would be very bad for OSbot. Time to move the servers to africa Yeah I was worried this may be the case and I'm glad you brought it up. Anyone with legal backgrounds able to tell us a way around this? Maybe something in the ToS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerker Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Time to move the servers to africa Yeah I was worried this may be the case and I'm glad you brought it up. Anyone with legal backgrounds able to tell us a way around this? Maybe something in the ToS? I've not read the ToS fully on here, but I assume the only way "Around it" would be if there was a legal department trying to get such information. But even then it would be sketchy as there are obviously minors on this forum which public information isn't legally allowed to be given out about them iirc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappster Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 I've not read the ToS fully on here, but I assume the only way "Around it" would be if there was a legal department trying to get such information. But even then it would be sketchy as there are obviously minors on this forum which public information isn't legally allowed to be given out about them iirc. Let's ask on reddit... https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/5etudd/nl_dpa_question_releasing_emails_of_people/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TzTok Jad Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I honestly don't feel a banned users page would do us any good. I mean we basically already have it with Dispute Archives. I highly doubt ANYONE could clean up the OSRS black market considering, normal RS players are toxic enough; and now you're on the blackmarket with the shiftyess of shifty around. So someone gets banned for scamming, great how does the list you are purposing prevent it from happening again? The user is already banned; they aren't coming back and if they are they are vading so there isn't much of a way to tell if this new member is a vader or not.Honestly I bet there are some vader accounts reading this right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappster Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 I honestly don't feel a banned users page would do us any good. I mean we basically already have it with Dispute Archives. I highly doubt ANYONE could clean up the OSRS black market considering, normal RS players are toxic enough; and now you're on the blackmarket with the shiftyess of shifty around. So someone gets banned for scamming, great how does the list you are purposing prevent it from happening again? The user is already banned; they aren't coming back and if they are they are vading so there isn't much of a way to tell if this new member is a vader or not. Honestly I bet there are some vader accounts reading this right now. The fact is that you can't click on the usernames of the banned users and go thru the post history (or view the rep). Generic names are a pain to search via google. Much easier if we can just get a topic we can ctrl+f thru and find the answer in seconds imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerker Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Let's ask on reddit... https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/5etudd/nl_dpa_question_releasing_emails_of_people/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TzTok Jad Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 The fact is that you can't click on the usernames of the banned users and go thru the post history (or view the rep). Generic names are a pain to search via google. Much easier if we can just get a topic we can ctrl+f thru and find the answer in seconds imo. If the user is already banned how does this help? If they've already recovered and account or charged back a PP transaction how is this page going to prevent it again? It's an extremely toxic community it's always going to happen I don't think your mind "can be at ease" when dealing with folks on this website, as we've all seen time and time again the amount of FB / Rep isn't synonymous with whether they will scam. I just don't see much use looking up a banned user other than for the lolz, if they truly want to scam again they will just vade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbound Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappster Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Damn reddit bots man If the user is already banned how does this help? If they've already recovered and account or charged back a PP transaction how is this page going to prevent it again? It's an extremely toxic community it's always going to happen I don't think your mind "can be at ease" when dealing with folks on this website, as we've all seen time and time again the amount of FB / Rep isn't synonymous with whether they will scam. I just don't see much use looking up a banned user other than for the lolz, if they truly want to scam again they will just vade. I think you may be thinking a little close minded. There's multiple reasons. One being curiosity with those I have previously dealt with, but also those who I may deal with in the future. Fact is, if I see someone banned on a forums I'm resilent to deal with them. If they tell me they are banned for harrasment I will assume it's for scamming and will refuse to trade with them, however, If there's a topic on that forum I can search thru to find the true reason (posted by a verified staff member who has access to that information) and it confirms the ban was just for harrasment, I will most likely trade with that user. Right now it's hard to find which member has scammed or have just been permed because of harrasments/other OSBot rules they have broken. I understand you may not see the reason for a lookup, but it takes less than 10 seconds to write a username and a short brief explanation of why that user was banned and it does more than just "looks up a banned member for the lolz". we've all seen time and time again the amount of FB / Rep isn't synonymous with whether they will scam. That's true, but what I meant to say is that we can't even currently view the rep to work out the reason of a ban (if they had a -1 to show why they was banned for scamming). Edited November 25, 2016 by Zappster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEMONTIME Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCC Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Would also be good if we could get the same thing for TWC. Hovering over the TWC icon on users to see the reason. Edited November 25, 2016 by NoCC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
