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I quickly threw together a new feature called "nointerface", which absolutely removes all interfaces and only gives you command line. This feature is targeted at very serious bot farmers who can completely rely on their scripts without any human intervention. What it looks like: You will not get any interface whatsoever, which should help a bit with screen clutter and improve slightly on resource usage. This feature would be available for VIP/Sponsor only as free members are limited to 2 bot instances. If this vote generally passes, I'll improve on this feature a bit by exploring some more opportunities to save resources.

CzarScripts #1 Bots LATEST BOTS If you want a trial - just post below with the script name, you can choose multiple too. Requirements Hit 'like' on this thread

I understand this, however I think it's bullshit how in 2016 they all try to look for ways to make every sentence "offensive" or "racist". Here in Belgium and Holland we had to change an old tradition because all of a sudden it was racist... Eh people...

NEW! Added Gemstone Crab! 81 Hours at Cows Brutal Black Dragon support Sulphur Nagua support Blue Dragon 99 ranged 99 Ranged at Gemstone Crab 81 Range F2p Safespotting Hill Giants Hotkey List // F1 = set cannon tile // F2 = hide paint // F3 = Set afk tile // F4 = reset afk tile // F6 = Set safespot tile // F7 = activate tile selector // F8 = Reset tile selector // F9 and F10 used by the client, EDIT: will re-assign as they are no longer used by client // F11 = Set breaks tile // F12 = Reset breaks tile User Interface Banking Tab Demo (handles everything with banking) You can copy inventory (to avoid adding individual items...), you can insert item names which have Auto-Fill (for you lazy folk!) and you can choose whether to block an item and avoid depositing it in bank, ideal for runes and ammo. Looting Tab Demo (From looting to alchemy, noted/stackable items too) You can choose whether to alch an item after looting it simply by enabling a checkbox, with a visual representation. All items are saved upon exiting the bot, for your convenience! Tasking Demo (Not to be confused with sequence mode, this is an individual task for leveling) You can set stop conditions, for example to stop the bot after looting a visage, you can have a leveling streak by changing attack styles and training all combat stats, you can have windows alert bubbles when an event occurs and an expansive layout for misc. options! Prayer Flick Demo (Just example, I made it faster after recording this GIF) There are two settings: Safe mode and efficient mode, this is safe mode: Fight Bounds Demo Allows you to setup the fight bounds easily! Simplified NPC chooser Either choose nearby (local) NPCs or enter an NPC name to find the nearest fight location! Simple interface, just click! Level Task Switch Demo (Switching to attack combat style after getting 5 defence) You can choose how often to keep levels together! e.g. switch styles every 3 levels Cannon Demo (Cannon is still experimental, beta mode!) Choose to kill npcs with a cannon, recharges at a random revolution after around 20-24 hits to make sure the cannon never goes empty too! Results Caged Ogres: How does this bot know where to find NPCs? This bot will find far-away npcs by simply typing the NPC name. All NPCs in the game, including their spawn points have been documented, the bot knows where they are. You can type 'Hill giant' while your account is in Lumbridge, and the bot will find it's way to the edgeville dungeon Hill giants area! Here is a visual representation of the spawn system in action (this is just a visual tool, map mode is not added due to it requiring too much CPU) Fight Area Example (How the bot searches for the npc 'Wolf') Walking System The script has 2 main walking options which have distinctive effects on the script. The walking system is basically a map with points and connections linking each point. It tells the script where to go, and decides the routes to take when walking to fightzones. Walking system 1 This uses a custom walking API written by myself and is constantly being updated as new fightzones are added. Pros: - Updates are instant, no waiting times - More fightzones are supported Cons: - Sometimes if an object is altered, the changes are not instant - Restarting the script too many times requires loading this webwalker each time which adds unnecessary memory (there is no way to make it only load at client startup since I don't control the client) Walking system 2 This is the default OSBot webwalking API - it is relatively new and very stable since the developers have built it, but is currently lacking certain fightzones (e.g. stronghold) and other high level requirement zones. It is perfect for normal walking (no object interactions or stairs, entrances etc) and never fails. Pros: - Stable, works perfect for normal walking - All scripters are giving code to improve the client webwalker - More efficient when restarting the script since it is loaded upon client start Cons: - No stronghold support yet - Some new/rare fightzones not supported yet - If there is a game-breaking update or an unsupported fightzone, it may take some time to add/repair (less than 24 hours usually) So which system should I choose? Whichever one suits your chosen fightzone best! There really shouldn't be any problems - the sole purpose of these options are for backup and emergency purposes, if the script ever messes up there is always the next option to select. Note: If the script ever fails, there will be immediate updates to fix the walking systems! Script Queue/Bot Manager: Script ID is 758, and the parameters will be the profile name that you saved in the fighter setup! Bug Report templates: New feature request - What is the new feature - Basic description of what the script should do - Basic actions for the script: 'Use item on item' etc. For when the script gets stuck on a tile (or continuous loop): - Which exact tile does the script get stuck on? (exact tile, not 'near the draynor village') - Plugin or normal script? - Did you try all 3 walking options? Script has a logic bug (e.g. dies while safespotting) or (cannon mode doesn't pickup arrows) - What is the bug - How did you make the bug happen - (optional) recommendation for the bug, e.g. 'make the script walk back' or something - Tried client restart? - Normal script or a plugin? - Which exact setup options are enabled? Afk mode, cannon mode, etc etc.

The only Runecrafting bot you will need Purchase this INSANE bot here You can setup a master account (preferably your main account, can be any account) and a worker account (a throwaway bot account, or any account) will trade the master account and go to bank to get more runes etc. The main account (master) does not need to bot, and can be achieved through the normal RS client without a bot client. Supports: Air runes (1) (normal) & (abyss) Mind runes (2) (normal) & (abyss) Water runes (5) (normal) & (abyss) Earth runes (9) (normal) & (abyss) Mud runes (13) (earth altar) Lava runes (23) (fire altar) Fire runes (14) (normal) & (abyss) Body runes (20) (normal) & (abyss) Cosmic runes (27) (normal) & (abyss) Chaos runes (35) (normal) & (abyss) Astral runes (40) (normal) & (abyss) Nature runes (44) (normal) & (abyss) Law runes (54) (normal) & (abyss) Blood runes (abyss) & (zeah) Auto Arceuus Favour Solver Gets 100% arceuus favour for you Auto GE Restocking Sells runes, buys more supplies automatically Auto-equips chosen armour/robes Use Blood Essences Death Handler gets items from Death's office and repeats (Abyss) Glory mode, ferox mode, house spell/tabs Avoids pkers and hops worlds Uses mouse invokes for quicker runecrafting (stealth) Muling (BETA) will give money to your mules every X hours or profit Creates colossal pouch if you have the needle Results and screenshots

Want to buy with OSGP? Contact me on Discord! Detailed feature list: - Supports mining every location in motherlode (Also top level) - Pick areas to mine in or use specific veins to mine - Included leveling you from 1-30 before going to motherlode - Pickaxe upgrading - Pickaxe special attack - Can use diary and agility shortcuts - Avoid other players option - Possible to enable the upgraded sack extension - Depositbox instead of bank option - Humanlike idles and interactions - Option to buy coal bag at 100 golden nuggets and stop script - CLI support for goldfarmers Custom Breakmanager: - Setup Bot and break times - Randomize your break times - Stop script on certain conditions (Stop on first break, Stop after X amount of minutes, Stop when skill level is reached) - Worldhopping - Crucial part to botting in 2023! Script queueing: - Support queueing multiple script in a row - All Khal scripts support flawless transitions in between scripts - Start creating your acc in a few clicks from scratch to multiple 99's - Flawless CLI support - Learn more here: How to use CLI parameters: - Example Usage: -script 612::ScriptFile.BreakFile.DiscordFile SAVEFILE = Saved Filename BREAKFILE = Breakmanager Filename - SAVEFILE: Save file can be created in the GUI. Navigate to the tab you want to run and press "Save As CLI file". Please choose your filename wisely (No special characters) - BREAKFILE (Optional): Breakfile can also be create in the GUI, set the breaksettings you wish to use and press "Save new CLI BreakFile". Please choose your filename wisely (No special characters) - Final form (Note that with some bot managers you do not need to specify -script 612): -script 612:TaskList1.4515breaks (With breaks) -script 612:TaskList1.4515breaks.discord1 (With breaks & discord) -script 612:TaskList1..discord1 (NO breaks & discord) Proggies:

It's asking for a list. List<Position> path = Arrays.asList( new Position(3183, 3431, 0), new Position(3177, 3429, 0), new Position(3171, 3426, 0), new Position(3172, 3416, 0), new Position(3171, 3404, 0), new Position(3173, 3395, 0), new Position(3177, 3388, 0), new Position(3179, 3381, 0), new Position(3182, 3375, 0) );

I never been banned ON tutorial island, its usually when im running to the GE

Just cache inventory before making a call to loot and check in a sleep condition if the size or count of the inventory has been updated or make an inventory listener.

Thank you everyone for all the support and feedback, this script officially is the most sold magic script on the market! Since 2015 it has been continually updated all the way to 2025! #1 SOLD MAGIC SCRIPT #1 MOST FEATURES MAGIC SCRIPT ESC MODE, HOVER-CLICK, NEAREST ITEM CLICK, FLAWLESS JMod nearby and we still alive. Anti-ban and Optimal script usage Anti-ban: - Don't go botting more than 3 hours at once, take breaks! Otherwise the ban-rate is highly increased! - Bans also depend on where you bot, for the best results: bot in unpopular locations Banking-related spells are the lowest ban-rate (spells which require banking or can be casted near a bank, e.g. superheating, maybe alching, jewelry enchanting etc etc) since you can just go to a full world and blend in with other non-bots (humans), for example: world 2 grand exchange If casting spells on npcs, then unpopular locations reduce the banrate by alot, So make sure not to go to botting hotspots otherwise you may be included in ban waves. - Some good areas used to be (until some got popular): grizzly bear, yanille stun-alching, any overground tiles (upstairs etc) but once the areas are overpopulated, try to go to another location which is similar to the aforementioned locations. This is a very popular thread with many many users so if a new location is mentioned, the location will be populated very quickly so I can only suggest examples of good locations - Don't go botting straight after a game update, it can be a very easy way to get banned. Wait a few hours! If you ever get banned, just backtrack your mistakes and avoid them in the future: you cannot be banned without making botting mistakes. Keep in mind you can be delay-banned from using previous scripts, so don't go using free/crap scripts for 24 hours then switching to a premium script, because the free/crap previous script can still get you banned! For more anti-ban information, see this thread which was created by an official developer: http://osbot.org/forum/topic/45618-preventing-rs-botting-bans/

NEW! supports new south + east shortcuts, new hopper (upstairs), and mouse invokes!!! (just like runelite!) 'the intelligent choice' By Czar 34-99 Mining on video!! Agility Shortcut Setup Window Preview 70 hours run time https://i.imgur.com/wiF6VPO.png

Stealth Builder Can also be purchased with OSRS gold using vouchers from here Features Automatically buys house if you don't have one Buys all required items from GE Restocks from GE when out of supplies Automatically switches items for best XP rates Builds all required rooms Hires and changes servants as it gains levels Builds beds and bell-pull for servants XP rates similar to human players Uses keyboard to select dialogue/construction interface options Instructions Set the desired level on the GUI and select one of the 2 modes available. The only difference between them is the fast mode will switch to Mahogany tables at 52, which is faster but more expensive. The script is designed to automate all tasks from fresh level 3 accounts, so it's recommended that you don't have a complex house layout with multiple floors. It's best to start the script at Grand Exchange, or in house if you already have the required supplies. Make sure you have enough money on the account for supplies. The script fetches supplies from the bank, does not use money pouch, therefore if manually setting up the bot inside the house, you should have a regular Saw (not crystal), regular Hammer, Coins and Teleport to house tabs CLI Features Script ID is 924. The script supports CLI startup with the following syntax: -script 924:parameter=value where at least the mode and target_level parameters must be specificed eg. -script 924:mode=normal;target_level=99;on_limit_break=true;take_breaks=true;min_break_frequency=50;max_break_frequency=100;min_break=20;max_break=150; List of parameters: mode=[true|false] target_level=[number] on_limit_stop=[true|false] on_limit_break=[true|false] take_breaks=[true|false] min_break=[number] max_break=[number] min_break_frequency=[number] max_break_frequency=[number] afk_sessions=[true|false] min_afk_frequency=[number] max_afk_frequency=[number] min_afk_duration=[number] max_afk_duration=[number] hop_worlds=[true|false] min_hop_frequency=[number] max_hop_frequency=[number] Bug Report Template 1. Stealth Injection or Mirror Mode: 2. Logger contents (press "Settings" on top right corner of the client, then "Toggle Logger", copy & paste on pastebin) : 3. Description:

Or just remove this plugin

No, i was leaning towards the iphone 7 but figured i might as well change from apple related products because they aren't the best -spec wise-. OT, decided i'll be going with the google pixel lads, thanks for the opinions :xboge:

If the answer to that question is yes you're perfect for sysm services http://osbot.org/forum/topic/94119-hiring-%E2%98%85join-sysm-aio-service%E2%98%85-make-good-cash/ Consider applying and some serious bank! for real tho we need alot more workers got so much work this christmas....

use onMessage

Vlog channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/SmokingintheFags Unlike expected he does not have orange hair, as can be seen on this video.

Guys the latest update is still pending for some reason v162 should be live any moment now, all of the previously mentioned feedback has been implemented/fixed in this version ^^ Apologies to everyone for any inconvenience All trial requests are double trials now (since the update is pending) good luck everyone

Script has been finished, waiting for him to come back from the gym to pay the second portion of the fee. Added cli support and gui auto saving/loading to compensate for the delay.

Want to buy with OSGP? Contact me on Discord! Detailed feature list: - Supports all rooftops (Draynor, Al-Kharid, Varrock, Canafis, Falador, Seers, Polivneach, Relekka, Ardougne) - Supports most courses (Gnome stronghold, Shayzien basic, Barbarian stronghold, Ape toll, Varlamore basic, Wilderness (Legacy), Varlamore advanced, Werewolf, Priffddinas) - Supports Agility pyramid - All food + option to choose when to eat - (Super) Energy potions + Stamina potions support - Progressive course/rooftop option - Waterskin support - Option to loot and sell pyramid top - CLI support for goldfarmers Custom Breakmanager: - Setup Bot and break times - Randomize your break times - Stop script on certain conditions (Stop on first break, Stop after X amount of minutes, Stop when skill level is reached) - Worldhopping - Crucial part to botting in 2023! Script queueing: - Support queueing multiple script in a row - All Khal scripts support flawless transitions in between scripts - Start creating your acc in a few clicks from scratch to multiple 99's - Flawless CLI support - Learn more here: How to use CLI parameters: - Example Usage: -script 463:ScriptFile.BreakFile.DiscordFile SAVEFILE = Saved Filename BREAKFILE = Breakmanager Filename DISCORDFILE= discordSettings Filename - SAVEFILE: Save file can be created in the GUI. Navigate to the tab you want to run and press "Save As CLI file". Please choose your filename wisely (No special characters) - BREAKFILE (Optional): Breakfile can also be create in the GUI, set the breaksettings you wish to use and press "Save new CLI BreakFile". Please choose your filename wisely (No special characters) - Final form (Note that with some bot manager you do not need to specify '-script 463'): -script 463:TaskList1.4515breaks (With breaks) -script 463:TaskList1.4515breaks.discord1 (With breaks & discord) -script 463:TaskList1..discord1 (NO breaks & discord, leave 2nd parameter empty) Proggies:

Want to buy with OSGP? Contact me on Discord! Detailed feature list: - Chop & Bank (Presets) Preset locations for quick a start without too much settings to choice from (Barbarian assault, Castle wars, Catherby, Draynor, Edgeville, Falador-East, Gnome stronghold, Grand exchange, Hardwood grove, Mage training arena, Neitiznot, Port sarim, Rimmington, Seers, Varrock-East/West, Woodcutting guild, ...) - Chop & bank (Custom) Chop on any location of your choice Set a chop position and a chop radius Select the tree type you want to chop Banks at the closest bank possible - Chop & Drop Chop on any location of your choice Set a chop position and a chop radius Select the tree type you want to chop Drops all logs (unless fletching is used) Option to fletch your logs into arrow shafts OR bets item possible based on your level and Logs UIM mode (Only drops logs, carefull with bird nests etc.) - Redwood Option to drop logs instead of banking - Forestry support (Struggling sapling, Tree roots, Fox, Pheasant, Ritual circles, Leprechaun, Entlings, Beehive) - Log basket support - Bird nest pickup support - Axe special attack (Crystal, Dragon, Infernal, ...) - Progressive axe upgrading - Humanlike idles - Menu invokes - CLI support for goldfarmers Custom Breakmanager: - Setup Bot and break times - Randomize your break times - Stop script on certain conditions (Stop on first break, Stop after X amount of minutes, Stop when skill level is reached) - Worldhopping - Crucial part to botting in 2023! Script queueing: - Support queueing multiple script in a row - All Khal scripts support flawless transitions in between scripts - Start creating your acc in a few clicks from scratch to multiple 99's - Flawless CLI support - Learn more here: How to use CLI parameters: - Example Usage: -script 569:ScriptFile.BreakFile.DiscordFile SAVEFILE = Saved Filename BREAKFILE = Breakmanager Filename - SAVEFILE: Save file can be created in the GUI. Navigate to the tab you want to run and press "Save As CLI file". Please choose your filename wisely (No special characters) - BREAKFILE (Optional): Breakfile can also be create in the GUI, set the breaksettings you wish to use and press "Save new CLI BreakFile". Please choose your filename wisely (No special characters) - Final form (Note that with some bot managers you do not need to specify -script 569): -script 569:TaskList1.4515breaks (With breaks) -script 569:TaskList1.4515breaks.discord1 (With breaks & discord) -script 569:TaskList1..discord1 (NO breaks & discord) Proggies:

24 hour progress report!! Setup Window Highly intuitive and visual, and easy to use! Portal Prediction knows which portals are going to drop - prioritises them! Full Void in <24 hours It takes only 850 points for full void, go go go! Screenshots & Results

Want to buy with OSGP? Contact me on Discord! Detailed feature list: - Supports every altar - Supports every rune Air, Mind, Water, Earth, Fire, Body runes (Just walk back and forth) Fire runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars) Mind runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars + Mind altar teleport) Nature runes (Unnote at shop and walk to altar) Nature runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars + Necklace of passage to Fairy ring) Nature runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars + Ardougne cape to Fairy ring) Nature runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars + Quest cape to Fairy ring) Nature runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars + POH teleport to Fairy ring) Cosmic runes (Walks back and forth - Uses obstacles based on agility level) Cosmic runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars + Necklace of passage to Fairy ring) Cosmic runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars + Quest cape to Fairy ring) Law altar (Ring of dueling to Castle wars + Balloon method to Entrana) Astral altar (Teleports back to bank) Lava runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars) Stream runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars) Smoke runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars) Mud runes (Walks back and forth in varrock) Mud runes (Digsite teleport) Blood runes (Arceuus) Blood runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars + POH teleport to Fairy ring) (93 agility req) Soul runes (Arceuus) Wrath runes (Ring of dueling to Castle wars + Mythical cape ) - Pouches support - Menu invokes - Daeyalt essence support - Pouch repair - Energy/Stamina potions support - Food support - Combination rune support - Binding necklaces + Magic imbue - Abyss support (Edgeville / Ferox enclave banking) Death handler, will grab your stuff and continue (Abyss only) Abyssal bracelets/Ring of life support Pouches repair at zamorak mage - ZMI altar support Walks short unsafe path OR walks long safe path Quick prayer support Full bank mode (Add fillers so all runes get deposited, but not the pouches/Rune pouch) - Mining daeyalt essence - Master/Runners setup Setup a bunch of runners for your main account who stands at an altar Either play your main yourself or use the master mode Combination runes, magic imbue + binding necklaces available Runners can bring binding necklaces, talismans to the master Stamina potion support for runners Custom Breakmanager: - Setup Bot and break times - Randomize your break times - Stop script on certain conditions (Stop on first break, Stop after X amount of minutes, Stop when skill level is reached) - Worldhopping - Crucial part to botting in 2023! Script queueing: - Support queueing multiple script in a row - All Khal scripts support flawless transitions in between scripts - Start creating your acc in a few clicks from scratch to multiple 99's - Flawless CLI support - Learn more here: How to use CLI parameters: - Example Usage: -script 482:ScriptFile.BreakFile.DiscordFile SAVEFILE = Saved Filename BREAKFILE = Breakmanager Filename - SAVEFILE: Save file can be created in the GUI. Navigate to the tab you want to run and press "Save As CLI file". Please choose your filename wisely (No special characters) - BREAKFILE (Optional): Breakfile can also be create in the GUI, set the breaksettings you wish to use and press "Save new CLI BreakFile". Please choose your filename wisely (No special characters) - Final form (Note that with some bot managers you do not need to specify -script 482): -script 482:TaskList1.4515breaks (With breaks) -script 482:TaskList1.4515breaks.discord1 (With breaks & discord) -script 482:TaskList1..discord1 (NO breaks & discord) Proggies:

PPOSB - AIO Hunter Brand new trapping system just released in 2024! *ChatGPT Supported via AltChat* https://www.pposb.org/ ***Black chinchompas and Black salamanders have been added back*** Supports the completion of Varrock Museum & Eagle's Peak OR CLICK HERE TO PAY WITH 07 GOLD! The script has been completely rewritten from the ground up! Enjoy the all new v2 of the script JOIN THE DISCORD CHAT FOR QUESTIONS/ SUPPORT/ CHATTING/ UPDATES! New GUI: Features: Click Here Current functioning hunter tasks: (green - complete || yellow - started || red - incomplete) Screenshots: Progressive Leveling: 1-19 --> Crimson swift 19-43 --> Tropical wagtail 43-63 --> Falconry 63+ --> Red chinchompas Updates How to setup Dynamic Signatures Report a bug CLI Support - The script now supports starting up with CLI. The commands are given below. Please put in ALL values (true or false) for CLI to work properly. Make sure they are lowercase values, and they are each separated with an underscore. The script ID for the hunter bot is 677. Parameters: EnableProgression_EnableVarrockMuseum_EnableEaglesPeak_EnableGrandExchange Example: -script 677:true_true_false_true ***Don't forget to check out some of my other scripts!*** OSRS Script Factory Click here to view thread LEAVE A LIKE A COMMENT FOR A TRIAL The script is not intended for Ironman accounts. It still works for Ironman accounts, but you must have all equipment, gear, and items.

Welcome to Yarran1017's Road To Max Hello everyone, today I have decided to make a brand new lvl 3 acc, I plan on botting and also playing this account legit to see how far I can get, most gold made on this account will be sold off so bank updates won't be necessary. Updates will be made once decent progress has been made on the acc. Day 1 (20/12/2016) Day 2 (21/12/2016) Day 3/4 (23-24/12/2016) All feedback/suggestions are welcome

so this is where all the stealth quester patience is going

They're sure taking their time updating the sdn

Merry christmas

The Hashtable class is obsolete. You're using a Hashtable without overriding the key class' hashCode() & equals() methods. You hardcoded your base case (if 4 == r). 3 ints and 2 object references per node. Memory. Redundant calls to table.contains(key) & table.get(key). The way you construct your TreeNode class is the opposite of elegant and intuitive. Your algo might not be O(n^2) but if your pseudo code looked anything like this Java implementation, I can't blame the TA for not giving you a perfect grade.

Hi there, Welcome to our friendly community :xcate:

I don't think this is the hiring section for your service.

Its fucking bad ass everybody

Cool beans man.

banned for having a scamming career

no but he doesnt like it when dutchies speak dutch and this "Warned" guy sent a blank message as if he's "warning" them :xboge:

Take this down before ghost reports u bro

im an aspie and fuck you

You look quite knowledgeable in your pp, i think i might believe you

Big thanks man Goodnight

Perfect runecrafter 24hr trial

Wow I was reading this thread and was very impressed, do you mind giving me a 24 hour trial please? I would love to check this out, very interested.

Still having issues with world hopping while banking (it's seeing players within x radius and tries hopping worlds repeatedly), just reminding so that it doesn't get forgotten! Thank you

Trail for CzarThiever

Price is really not an issue for me I'm not into default cards and such things, I need something custom and custom coded. I mean I don't want to pay $1,000 for a corporate design company to make one when I might be able to spend $300-$500 on osbot for someone to make me one. I'm looking for something along the lines of https://www.psychz.net/ or http://ramnode.com/ simple but effective.