Cruel Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 *Posted update today* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Farmer Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Ive been botting injection the whole way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruel Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 Ive been botting injection the whole way Interesting. I updated my post with some information that affirms some of the ideas you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherkid Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 hey for simplicity could you post the different kind of bot bans? I'm trying to find them but for some reason i can't XD also, can u experiment with botting several accounts on an IP as opposed to only 1? I think when I bot 2 accounts on an IP the ban rate is relatively higher than 1 account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Farmer Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Udpate: Possible delayed ban? Finally took down my skiller pure that I started about a week ago. Almost had 300 Skill total, took him down while mining in Al Kahrid. Maybe injection does get you more flags, maybe they target any sushpcious bots that get 300 skill total or more in less then a week? Iunno. I still can't pin point exactly what got me banned. Ironically it seems that the 24/7 Savage fisher, (which I had cooking ALL day yesterday, 1-57 cooking) and still no ban.. IM going to start a new account and only bot on it once every couple of days and see what happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Farmer Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) Didnt mean to quote myself.. UPDATE: The Savage Fisher got snuffed too, so maybe youre right about them being able to track injections, either that or my IP is flagged.. Also its not nesscessarily true as far as the fisher goes. It did have two marcoing offesnes on it from 2011 so they prolly just snuffed it on first inspection. But still I think youre right about injections. Edited March 19, 2015 by Anti Farmer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherkid Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 could they be scanning players on the same IP for alike behaviour? I think this is very typical of gold farmers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruel Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 Have had some personal issues come up here the past two days. Will be providing updated information ASAP guys. Be patient! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shit Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) It's honestly worth it from my personal experience already. oh i see nvm good info bro Edited March 22, 2015 by Shit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Maxi Posted March 23, 2015 Developer Share Posted March 23, 2015 Don't forget that Jagex tracks you through the random.dat file. If you haven't deleted your random.dat file, even on a new account that is only used on the mirror client, they can still relate that account to your previous accounts. It's also possible they have more tricks like these on their sleeves with their cache. Deleting both your cache and your random.dat is a smart move and might make a difference when starting a new account. Edit: The random.dat is a file that contains a UID (Unique Identification Number). This file is set by Jagex and related to all the accounts you play from that one computer. It is assumed that Jagex does not ban based on your IP but based on this UID. What we should do in the future, is write a tool that makes the OSRS client use a different random.dat (spoofed) file for each account to make sure accounts are not linked to each other through the random.dat file. This should definitely make a difference when it comes to their tracking system when making new accounts. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruel Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 Don't forget that Jagex tracks you through the random.dat file. If you haven't deleted your random.dat file, even on a new account that is only used on the mirror client, they can still relate that account to your previous accounts. It's also possible they have more tricks like these on their sleeves with their cache. Deleting both your cache and your random.dat is a smart move and might make a difference when starting a new account. Edit: The random.dat is a file that contains a UID (Unique Identification Number). This file is set by Jagex and related to all the accounts you play from that one computer. It is assumed that Jagex does not ban based on your IP but based on this UID. What we should do in the future, is write a tool that makes the OSRS client use a different random.dat (spoofed) file for each account to make sure accounts are not linked to each other through the random.dat file. This should definitely make a difference when it comes to their tracking system when making new accounts. Your insight in particular is always appreciated. Thank you for contributing and a special thanks to all the developers for the mirror client. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Oha Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Don't forget that Jagex tracks you through the random.dat file. If you haven't deleted your random.dat file, even on a new account that is only used on the mirror client, they can still relate that account to your previous accounts. It's also possible they have more tricks like these on their sleeves with their cache. Deleting both your cache and your random.dat is a smart move and might make a difference when starting a new account. Edit: The random.dat is a file that contains a UID (Unique Identification Number). This file is set by Jagex and related to all the accounts you play from that one computer. It is assumed that Jagex does not ban based on your IP but based on this UID. What we should do in the future, is write a tool that makes the OSRS client use a different random.dat (spoofed) file for each account to make sure accounts are not linked to each other through the random.dat file. This should definitely make a difference when it comes to their tracking system when making new accounts. How do you delete your random.dat file? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Farmer Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 How do you delete your random.dat file? Yeh if there isnt a guide that tells you how delete your random.dat/cache already then there should be and it should get stickied 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBron Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I may be wrong, but I believe OSbuddy just reflects the game's code to pull certain information to make it see-able on the client, whereas OSbot directly changes the way the game is loaded so that the hooks can send information or something like that. very good point about jagex being able to shrug off appeals, OP. I am just wondering if this is relevant to the other bot clients out there that do not use injection. OSBuddy uses inject. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Maxi Posted March 23, 2015 Developer Share Posted March 23, 2015 Also, technically speaking the mirror client is injection based as well. The way it's done though is completely different than what any other bot does. Both conventional ways of injection and reflection are detectable with Jagex's current system. What the mirror client does is the same principle, but could say that it does a better job at hiding what it does. Combined with the fact that the OSRS client is actually ran from the browser, this must bypass some of their triggers. And yes, OSBuddy uses injection but Jagex can pretty much identify specific bot/injection/reflection clients with their techniques. OSBuddy makes no effort to hide what they are as Jagex knows it's not a bot client and won't flag these users as bot users. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
