Nitrousek Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I support this in the way it helps the community, but taking profit for something a group of 3 people Vs 13 for a 'perfect' client & basically saying they're doing a horrible job is unfair. It's like asking why super mods don't get paid for something mald could do. Most threads aren't even closed by him. Just volunteer work Your post is based on lack of knowledge how actually OSBot 2 is being developed. There's currently one developer that is doing anything regarding client and API, and it is @Laz. We are not taking their profit. We just wanted a MINIMUM amount of money, so we could have incentive for work. I am actually not part of API team, because I wouldn't have time to dedicate to it anyway, and even I think it's amazing idea. The scripters who are in the "not approved" API team at the moment, are one of the brightest scripters of runescape of all times, It's the only thing that can save this bot at the moment. We offered Laz our help, and it is pretty much the best offer one can imagine for a developer, someone doing the job for you, for some lunch money, the fact that he doesn't reply and leaves us in the dark makes me, and the other script developers very sad, and if you guys knew our situation from inside, you wouldn't be too happy either. To be honest, I feel disrespected by the devs. No contact what so ever, and let's face it, without scripters, there would be no bot. We make this bot together. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousPP Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I support this in the way it helps the community, but taking profit for something a group of 3 people Vs 13 for a 'perfect' client & basically saying they're doing a horrible job is unfair. It's like asking why super mods don't get paid for something mald could do. Most threads aren't even closed by him. Just volunteer work Also the API development team is not 13 people, the other writers are supporters. The proposed API team is: Leaders ------------------------- @Ericthecmh @Alek ------------------------- Dev Team ------------------------- @Dreamliner @Dashboard @Deffiliate @NotoriousPP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericthecmh Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I support this in the way it helps the community, but taking profit for something a group of 3 people Vs 13 for a 'perfect' client & basically saying they're doing a horrible job is unfair. It's like asking why super mods don't get paid for something mald could do. Most threads aren't even closed by him. Just volunteer work This is ridiculous. OSBot already takes a 30% cut out of our script's profits. Now you want us to spend hours fixing client code, which is the responsibility of the devs? The situation is different from the mods in a critical aspect: Mald is present. He's active. He does a lot of work on the forums. Therefore, I think it makes sense for him to ask for help. Laz isn't very active, either on the client or the forums, and Maxi's hasn't been active for who knows how long. You're asking us to take over the client's development while they sit back. Nobody wants to help them if they're not helping themselves. Also, super mods get respect. They still get benefits. They get a pip, and color change. Laz gave some of us access to the API a while back, and some of us used that access to fix a lot of bugs. But how many people knew that? Nobody. We didn't get any recognition or appreciation. If you used OSBot 2 before it's release you'll remember that it broke every time a random appeared. I was the one who spent hours figuring out why and fixing it. Come to think of it, Laz didn't even bother to say "Thank you Eric" 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamliner Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Your post is based on lack of knowledge how actually OSBot 2 is being developed. There's currently one developer that is doing anything regarding client and API, and it is @Laz. We are not taking their profit. We just wanted a MINIMUM amount of money, so we could have incentive for work. I am actually not part of API team, because I wouldn't have time to dedicate to it anyway, and even I think it's amazing idea. The scripters who are in the "not approved" API team at the moment, are one of the brightest scripters of runescape of all times, It's the only thing that can save this bot at the moment. We offered Laz our help, and it is pretty much the best offer one can imagine for a developer, someone doing the job for you, for some lunch money, the fact that he doesn't reply and leaves us in the dark makes me, and the other script developers very sad, and if you guys knew our situation from inside, you wouldn't be too happy either. To be honest, I feel disrespected by the devs. No contact what so ever, and let's face it, without scripters, there would be no bot. We make this bot together. couldn't have said it better myself. Very well said. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 this is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecman Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Love the idea. The list of people in what OP stated all know so much. This would def help Osbot so much. Maybe I'll even start botting again. Edited July 19, 2014 by Kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asap Ferg Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 This is ridiculous. OSBot already takes a 30% cut out of our script's profits. Now you want us to spend hours fixing client code, which is the responsibility of the devs? The situation is different from the mods in a critical aspect: Mald is present. He's active. He does a lot of work on the forums. Therefore, I think it makes sense for him to ask for help. Laz isn't very active, either on the client or the forums, and Maxi's hasn't been active for who knows how long. You're asking us to take over the client's development while they sit back. Nobody wants to help them if they're not helping themselves. Also, super mods get respect. They still get benefits. They get a pip, and color change. Laz gave some of us access to the API a while back, and some of us used that access to fix a lot of bugs. But how many people knew that? Nobody. We didn't get any recognition or appreciation. If you used OSBot 2 before it's release you'll remember that it broke every time a random appeared. I was the one who spent hours figuring out why and fixing it. Come to think of it, Laz didn't even bother to say "Thank you Eric" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamliner Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Love the idea. The list of people in what OP stated all know so much. This would def help Osbot so much. Maybe I'll even start botting again. This is the very reason why this team should be approved. #faithrestored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arm2 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Move to a open source bot. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Remember customers, you are the reason osbot is surviving. You have a voice. Use it. LOL No customers don't have a voice or say...... none the less though good luck with this endeavor guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodore Bagwell Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Such an amazing idea, i really think the community needs this. There is so much potention in all these script writers, and there's no point to ignore them. Btw, it would be nice if somone could take a look at the login screen. Would be nice if it could be faster, as it's taking like 1 minute to relogin atm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Also, super mods get respect. They still get benefits. They get a pip, and color change. Laz gave some of us access to the API a while back, and some of us used that access to fix a lot of bugs. But how many people knew that? Nobody. We didn't get any recognition or appreciation. If you used OSBot 2 before it's release you'll remember that it broke every time a random appeared. I was the one who spent hours figuring out why and fixing it. Come to think of it, Laz didn't even bother to say "Thank you Eric" I've seen you get plenty of praise, I don't know where that's coming from. & more admirable I'm sure nobody forced you. Almost like it's volunteer work. Getting pip is different than gaining extra profit. You can work that out around. I gave you my support but if you feel like taking money is that big of a deal to get everyone incentive instead of letting go and hiring more reliable hands, that's your thing go ahead, I didn't say the idea of you getting paid was bad, I just didn't understand it. There's no reason for the whole team you've composed to keep quoting me and posting about your money concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericthecmh Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Such an amazing idea, i really think the community needs this. There is so much potention in all these script writers, and there's no point to ignore them. Btw, it would be nice if somone could take a look at the login screen. Would be nice if it could be faster, as it's taking like 1 minute to relogin atm.. The "unapproved" API team already sped up keyboard. It would be released, but Laz hasn't approved our team yet. I've seen you get plenty of praise, I don't know where that's coming from. & more admirable I'm sure nobody forced you. Almost like it's volunteer work. Getting pip is different than gaining extra profit. You can work that out around. I gave you my support but if you feel like taking money is that big of a deal to get everyone incentive instead of letting go and hiring more reliable hands, that's your thing go ahead, I didn't say the idea of you getting paid was bad, I just didn't understand it. There's no reason for the whole team you've composed to keep quoting me and posting about your money concern. That's not the thing though. Our argument is that Laz is making a bunch of money, and then expecting us to fix his client so that he continues to make money. That's completely unfair. Maldesto might make some money as admin, but he's putting forth the effort to deserve it. Laz isn't. And I'm not here to wage war against you. You make a good point, I'm just trying to counter it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...