Joseph Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) You people stay arguing about the same subject. Who here really thought OSBot 1 was going to be lifetime. Not to be an ass but people arent even lifetime. I understand that you guy are frustrated because you guys are losing your scripts, and having to pay more. But you have to think about it in the developers perspective. If you allow scripts to be lifetime, the script make an AMOUNT of money. That scripter is happy with the AMOUNT of money he mad. Then runs off and doesnt update his script. Now there a new rs update, and the script is broken. The people who brought lifetime, are mad and want a refund, especially since they had the script maybe like for 3+ months. Which then comes out of the developers pockets. That the reason for the new monthly mandatory payment. You guy could go ahead an flare at me telling me that im money hungry. Im not going to lie, who isnt. But then again i dont have any prem script so im not the case. Edited June 4, 2014 by josedpay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSloth Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) This is what I understand. Script Writers are angry because they will have to completely rewrite their scripts in order to make profit, they will then receive more money because we'll pay a monthly fee and a one time fee. ------------------------------------ Consumers are angry because they bought a product that had a label 'lifetime' and in reality for more overall costs consumers are being bent over and forced to purchase these 'NEW' scripts with monthly costs, which monthly costs aren't that bad. ----------------------------------------- Scriptwriters are labeling the Scripts new as they are for a different client, however in the end game, the product is used for the same thing. only thing that changes are A. Different Branding B.More stability in features. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Devlopers get more splits from Premium scripts overall, more money coming in overall and no downfalls. Overall ------------------- Dev's get more money with the new client with little to no downfalls Scripters are pissed that they must remake scripts and the community expects them for free Communty(Consumers) Are pissed that they are having to repurchase and re-pay each month for something they had purchased with a 'lifetime' tag attached to it. Scripters see it as a full new product, Consumers see it as pretty much a re-branding and a new client. Devlopers see this as this oh and community sees it as this please correct me if im wrong just what I see. Edited June 4, 2014 by KingSloth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Dev's get more money with the new client with little to no downfalls Devs lose money with lifetime script, as i gave an example above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSloth Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Devs lose money with lifetime script, as i gave an example above. With the new system they gain money.... they get part of the orginal purchase + every monthly renewal overall they get more money, no? not to mention a steady income from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 With the new system they gain money.... they get part of the orginal purchase + every monthly renewal overall they get more money, no? not to mention a steady income from it. with the new system i guess you can say yes. but before they were losing. I mean wouldn't you rather gain money, then lose money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSloth Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 with the new system i guess you can say yes. but before they were losing. I mean wouldn't you rather gain money, then lose money? Sure but screwing over and offending the community was perhaps the wrong way of going about it? :P When I say screwing over I mean making them buy pretty much just rebranded products for a different client for the same thing and end result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Sure but screwing over and offending the community was perhaps the wrong way of going about it? When I say screwing over I mean making them buy pretty much just rebranded products for a different client for the same thing and end result How they offend the community? I think i over read somewhere saying they were going to give out like a month subscription for script. But not too sure how thats is going to work, or even if they are going to go along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSloth Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) How they offend the community? I think i over read somewhere saying they were going to give out like a month subscription for script. But not too sure how thats is going to work, or even if they are going to go along with it. in the sense that they consider the community stupid, they are pretty much saying, well hey Scripters, you want money Rip off your Buyers, and be bent over backwards re-do most content of your scripts, and get rid of your current userbase just because we want to 'rework' the client. Lol. Edited June 4, 2014 by KingSloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzbeat Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Your job as a botter is to buy scripts and run them, that could easily be done in 10 mouse clicks per day. My job as a scripter is to write hundreds, sometimes thousands, lines of codes, market my product and provide customer support, all on a daily basis. I'm hungry for some fucking cents because I actually work for those fucking cents. Stop acting like a shrimp and treating me as if I were a shark. Perfectly stated.Unlike you botters, what we do takes a lot more skill and ingenuity than a couple mouse clicks or mindlessly playing a game. You have no idea what it's like to literally sit there and stare at documentation on bitwise operators/shifts just for the sake of gaining knowledge to make your scripts that much better (and programming knowledge as well). It's a tiring task which is why you see 99% of this site classified as script users while the other 1% make them. tl;dr fuck george clooney 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 in the sense that they consider the community stupid, they are pretty much saying, well hey Scripters, you want money Rip off your Buyers, and be bent over backwards re-do most content of your scripts, and get rid of your current userbase just because we want to 'rework' the client. Lol. not really, non of us script see it that way lol. And i hardly doubt the dev/admins are trying to take it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSloth Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 not really, non of us script see it that way lol. And i hardly doubt the dev/admins are trying to take it that way. again just how I see it. If I was forced to re-do work that took me days at a time to do i'd be pissed than again you scripters will get paid more routinely for your scrips so I imagine that doesn't hurt :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamliner Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 tl;dr fuck george clooney +1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apaec Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 ------------------------------------ Consumers are angry because they bought a product that had a label 'lifetime' and in reality for more overall costs consumers are being bent over and forced to purchase these 'NEW' scripts with monthly costs, which monthly costs aren't that bad. ----------------------------------------- This is what i don't understand about some of you guys You pull up arguments out of the dust in order to try and get freebies when a new client is released? Heres an example Now tell me, where does that say lifetime? there is NO lifetime guarentee. The script has a price. [good script btw ^^] Your job as a botter is to buy scripts and run them, that could easily be done in 10 mouse clicks per day. My job as a scripter is to write hundreds, sometimes thousands, lines of codes, market my product and provide customer support, all on a daily basis. I'm hungry for some fucking cents because I actually work for those fucking cents. Stop acting like a shrimp and treating me as if I were a shark. I'd say this is more like the situation we're in, and you guys are the money hungry ones trying to save a few cents out of your pocket 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeomatic Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Or they just write new scripts and get over it? They will still be getting paid regardless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodore Bagwell Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) "Their scripts on osbot 2" Did you buy a script on osbot 2?? (Because no, osbot 1 script != osbot 2 script). You have no right to ask/demand lifetime script support on a different script you didn't even buy. If the scripter decides to port over their script and give out free copies then so be it but don't try to oblige all scripters to do the same. Now once and for all: You bought a script with a "One time fee" (again, one time fee != lifetime). Scripts are provided as is, A scripter could very well decide not to update a script for a rs update and you would get no refund. You buy a script which is a piece of code that is written to work with a certain version of runescape. Often the scripters decide to update the script to please it's customers and attract new one but he is not obliged to do that. Same thing here for osbot 2. You bought a script for a certain version of runescape on a certain version of the bot client. If either get's an update the scripter is not obliged to update and please you (the customer) in any way or provide you with access to the a new piece of code. I'd say you should be gratefull you even get free 30 day trial... Now please understand you are only making this harder for yourself. You are inventing rights you do not have and try to circumvent the inevitable. You will lose support to scripts you bought because software ugraded. It's like buying a windows xp and demanding a free copy of windows 8 when it comes out I do understand that an osbot 1 script and an osbot 2 script aren't the same and osbot 2 has a different API and shit.You want to compare it with Microsoft? Im fine. Microsoft has developed Windows 8 when Windows XP was actually running fine by most of the people. Does Microsoft force you yo use Windows 8 instead of Windows XP? Does Microsoft force people not to use Windows XP anymore and make them pay $120? Absolutely not. Some people were happy with the old operating system and so Microsoft didnt force them to switch over and let them pay. Now does osbot come with a new client and force the costumers to switch over from client, even if the old client was allright for costumers? Yes the do. It doesnt matter if there is a lifetime payment label on it, but when people pay for something like Windows XP without that label, they can assume Microsoft wont take it away. Not because microsoft doesnt have the right to do that, but microsoft cares about their costumers and wont take anything away which they already bought. Imagine your windows 8 will be deleted of your computer, and you will be forced to buy windows 9 for $120, then woud you be happy with a 30-day trial? Im sure 99% won't . Edited June 4, 2014 by Mojito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
