Allow guides/education services to be sold

[Swizzbeat]

I find it incredibly retarded that it's against the rules to sell guides/educational services. There's no harm in offering these things, and the buyer should use common sense before purchasing something. It's not the staffs team job to handle disputes idiots make because they didn't like the method or teaching service. All sales should be final.

[Abuse]

The idea in disallowing them comes from these occurrences:

 

- Selling outdated guides

- Promising more than it actually is worth

- High buyer expectations

 

It would just add more Q_Q'ing overall unless its properly administrated, and that would add more workload on the staff

[Swizzbeat]

The idea in disallowing them comes from these occurrences:

 

- Selling outdated guides

- Promising more than it actually is worth

- High buyer expectations

 

It would just add more Q_Q'ing overall unless its properly administrated, and that would add more workload on the staff

That's what I'm saying, the staff take on things they shouldn't even need to take on. If someone purchases a guide they run the risk of not liking it and can leave appropriate feedback. Just have someone review the guide, leave details about it, and go from there.

[Kittens]

That's what I'm saying, the staff take on things they shouldn't even need to take on. If someone purchases a guide they run the risk of not liking it and can leave appropriate feedback. Just have someone review the guide, leave details about it, and go from there.

 

I want this implemented really bad as well. I have a few guides and etc planned up from months ago but could never sell them because it's against the rules for selling guides which is pretty dumb honestly.

[Alex]

Yes guides should be aloud. The Rule should be if I can find the guide on google it cannot be sold. Basically if there is no script that's in the SDN or local, the guide is allowed to be released because it's not known, or at least not known enough to be a script.

 

EDIT: I'm referring to money making methods

Edited May 3, 2014 by Alex

[RoomScape]

There's a lot of things that can go wrong with this...

[Catastrophe]

I remember when we used to allow guides to be sold.

 

Literally within the first week, there were hundreds of disputes, that's not even an exaggeration.

95% of people who bought a guide of some-sort were unhappy.

And the sad part is, you can't tell the difference between someone who is genuinely unhappy with their purchase, and someone who is using the guides content but just wants their money back.

 

As for educational services, I believe that it will backfire in the majority of user's faces.

For example, if two people purchase an essay on the same subject, the writer is bound to make similar points in the essay, which may lead to an investigation into plagiarism and would ultimately 'fuck' anybody up who had used the service in the past and those planning to utilise it in the future.

On-top of the fact that the work standard could be poor and then this will just lead to ridiculous disputes.

 

I personally don't think the sale of anything education-related should be sold in that way.

If you cannot complete your own work because you're too lazy or incompetent, then you don't deserve the perks that come with perseverance.

 

Sorry to say, that I'm against the suggestion for these reasons. 

[Kittens]

Yes guides should be aloud. The Rule should be if I can find the guide on google it cannot be sold. Basically if there is no script that's in the SDN or local, the guide is allowed to be released because it's not known, or at least not known enough to be a script.

 

Uhm I have plenty knowledge that I can create into a guide but all the information lies out there on other sites and etc, like rs help sites and etc, basically nothing can be sold the way you're putting it because no one comes up with everything on their own for a guide for anything, they learn from everywhere and etc. 

[Smart]

Educational services are not allowed to protect buyers from plagiarized material that could possibly put them in jeopardy within their academic life. Guides have been prohibited on request quite a while ago, due to the uncertainty of guides and how most have been falsely advertised leading to buyer dissatisfaction and frequent unhappy customers. We do not disallow them in an attempt to gain control, but we do this to protect the members of the community. With that being said, I personally do not support the introduction of those two categories in the market. However, if the majority of the community would like to bring them in once again then of course we will make an exception. Nothing is set in stone, so more feedback on this topic would be helpful so we can make a clear decision.

 

Thank you for your suggestion.

[Kittens]

I remember when we used to allow guides to be sold.

 

Literally within the first week, there were hundreds of disputes, that's not even an exaggeration.

95% of people who bought a guide of some-sort would be unhappy.

And the sad party is, you can't tell the difference between someone who is genuinely unhappy with their purchase, and someone who is using the guides content but just wants their money back.

 

As for educational services, I believe that it will backfire in the majority of users faces.

For example, if two people purchase an essay on the same subject, the writer is bound to make similar points in the essay, which may lead to an investigation into plagiarism and would ultimately 'fuck' anybody up who had used in the past and those planning to use it in the future.

On-top of the fact that the work standard could be poor and then this will just lead to ridiculous disputes.

 

I personally don't think the sale of anything education-related should be sold in that way.

If you cannot complete your own work because you're too lazy or incompetent, then you don't deserve the perks that come with hard work.

 

Sorry to say, that I'm against the suggestion for these reasons. 

 

 

Have guides be approved for sale, make it clear what you're selling and etc. I'll skype you to show you what I'm talking about exactly and stuff.

Educational services are not allowed to protect buyers from plagiarized material that could possibly put them in jeopardy within their academic life. Guides have been prohibited on request quite a while ago, due to the uncertainty of guides and how most have been falsely advertised leading to buyer dissatisfaction and frequent unhappy customers. We do not disallow them in an attempt to gain control, but we do this to protect the members of the community. With that being said, I personally do not support the introduction of those two categories in the market. However, if the majority of the community would like to bring them in once again then of course we will make an exception. Nothing is set in stone, so more feedback on this topic would be helpful so we can make a clear decision.

 

Thank you for your suggestion.

 

Have the guides be clear and concise and show what product is being sold man. All the guides that would previously have been sold just said make tons of mils a day and that was basically it. They didn't provide any information on what people were buying, also have them be approved by moderators so people will know what the hell they're buying instead of buying it and afterwards complaining about it saying it sucks and shit. I always wanted to do guides like these so people know exactly what they're getting and not getting ripped.

[Alex]

Uhm I have plenty knowledge that I can create into a guide but all the information lies out there on other sites and etc, like rs help sites and etc, basically nothing can be sold the way you're putting it because no one comes up with everything on their own for a guide for anything, they learn from everywhere and etc. 

I was referring to Methods of money making and also your logic is flawed because all guides start from somewhere.

[Kittens]

I was referring to Methods of money making and also your logic is flawed because all guides start from somewhere.

Don't think you read what I said

 

 

Anywho if i want to sell a guide saying ill show you how to make money with this skill and post the exact correct amount you can make with it (not some exaggerated out of this world amount like 400k+ an hour) it should be allowed if the mods can actually see that its legitimate and if someone bought it they would be happy with it.

[Smart]

Have guides be approved for sale, make it clear what you're selling and etc. I'll skype you to show you what I'm talking about exactly and stuff.

 

Have the guides be clear and concise and show what product is being sold man. All the guides that would previously have been sold just said make tons of mils a day and that was basically it. They didn't provide any information on what people were buying, also have them be approved by moderators so people will know what the hell they're buying instead of buying it and afterwards complaining about it saying it sucks and shit. I always wanted to do guides like these so people know exactly what they're getting and not getting ripped.

 

There is a problem with that method however, because if we as Staff members throw our stamp of approval on a certain guide and a customer is unhappy with it after the purchase then it'd fall on our heads. A lot can go wrong with allowing Educational and Guide services to be sold, which is why I strongly disagree with any notion to allow them to be in the market. However, if there is some benefit and the community heavily desires their return then of course we will make an exception to the rule.

 

Thank you for your response my friend. ^_^

[Kittens]

There is a problem with that method however, because if we as Staff members throw our stamp of approval on a certain guide and a customer is unhappy with it after the purchase then it'd fall on our heads. A lot can go wrong with allowing Educational and Guide services to be sold, which is why I strongly disagree with any notion to allow them to be in the market. However, if there is some benefit and the community heavily desires their return then of course we will make an exception to the rule.

 

Thank you for your response my friend.

 

I'm not asking to say that staff members say its a approved guide like before in the past mods would say oh this was verified aboutmods and its a good guide. Im saying only allowed guides that users can see and know what they are getting in return and what not. If i made a guide with mining and told people with my help i can show you how to gold farm mining and make 70k-150k an hour with mining and etc. 

[Swizzbeat]

Make it a rule then that there will be no disputes allowed when it comes to guides/educational services (unless of course it's a full out scam where someone purchases something and it's never received). People should be allowed to make their own educated decisions based on feedback.

 

If the same logic that is being applied against the sale of these items was applied to everything, there would be no scripts because they wouldn't be allowed to be sold.