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God and Religion

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 What does so would so respect mean?

If it's a typo I'm not trying to be mean sorry ahead of time.

 

*So would you respect

 

My bad, typo.

Dustin, I hope you realised my post was sarcasm on the intent of intellectual discussion, in reality, I don't believe in god, that's all I'm going to say, and the way other atheists make others look bad, it works the same with religion too, there's always good and bad regardless of what you believe in (I find beliefs which empower you a bit silly as well). Sorry if I made you think I was retarded. :/

I do not believe in any religion I see myself as an atheist I have been baptiest not by my choice my grandma is a church nut I have done communion but I would never get my kids to have any part in religions I personally hate the idea of a false ideology that apparently rules all our lives it just seems stupid and controls peoples lives making them go crazy but that is just my opinion as I believe is the right one although I would not push it onto others

*So would you respect

 

My bad, typo.

 

 I don't understand how my post did not answer this question as I make it appear obvious I have no quarrels against any religion.

 

 And I would show the respect so long as they deserve it.

 I don't understand how my post did not answer this question as I make it appear obvious I have no quarrels against any religion.

 

 And I would show the respect so long as they deserve it.

 

Here's your fallacy: you say you respect religion, but yet you hate those that try to force belief upon others. The problem is that some religions are based on that...

 

For example, certain branches of Islam believe that Jihad is the "sixth pillar", a concept that Mohammed seriously supported and what led to the conquest of much of northern Africa and the Middle East. Muslims then are taught to "kill the infidels", and I have read the Qu'ran from front cover to back cover, so I know it says this. Anyway, what I'm saying is that a postmodernistic view of "every religion is fine as long as they keep to themselves" is completely stupid and misunderstanding of what religion is. Christians believe that God is the only way to eternal life, so it is their duty to help convert anyone possible - after all, by not doing this they are effectively leaving these people to the clutches of hell.

 

My point is that you can't "respect religion" but also ask it to stay out of everyone's business. That's going against what religion is.

Here's your fallacy: you say you respect religion, but yet you hate those that try to force belief upon others. The problem is that some religions are based on that...

 

For example, certain branches of Islam believe that Jihad is the "sixth pillar", a concept that Mohammed seriously supported and what led to the conquest of much of northern Africa and the Middle East. Muslims then are taught to "kill the infidels", and I have read the Qu'ran from front cover to back cover, so I know it says this. Anyway, what I'm saying is that a postmodernistic view of "every religion is fine as long as they keep to themselves" is completely stupid and misunderstanding of what religion is. Christians believe that God is the only way to eternal life, so it is their duty to help convert anyone possible - after all, by not doing this they are effectively leaving these people to the clutches of hell.

 

My point is that you can't "respect religion" but also ask it to stay out of everyone's business. That's going against what religion is.

 

 Whatever you say brochacho You keep on keepin on. And ill keep on keepin on.

I've never believed in a god or deity and don't think I ever will. If I would, it would probably be the sun.. it's what enables all lifeforms to exist, anyway. I've never seen proof of a god and I strongly believe I never will. There's nothing wrong with religion. There is something wrong with people who try to convert others into, for example, a Christian or Muslim, though. Belief should come from the individual, not from external factors. I think religion is a great tool to bring out the best in people, but there are tons of wars and deaths because of religion, too. I think the world would be better without religion -- but that's coming from an agnostic atheist, obviously religious people will say the exact opposite and that's fine, really. I just don't feel like debating my beliefs, or yours. They're your beliefs; you don't have to convince anyone.

 

Do you believe in God/Allah/Buddah? I do because I was born to believe it God.

 

What does this mean? Were you born to a religious family?

Here's your fallacy: you say you respect religion, but yet you hate those that try to force belief upon others. The problem is that some religions are based on that...

 

For example, certain branches of Islam believe that Jihad is the "sixth pillar", a concept that Mohammed seriously supported and what led to the conquest of much of northern Africa and the Middle East. Muslims then are taught to "kill the infidels", and I have read the Qu'ran from front cover to back cover, so I know it says this. Anyway, what I'm saying is that a postmodernistic view of "every religion is fine as long as they keep to themselves" is completely stupid and misunderstanding of what religion is. Christians believe that God is the only way to eternal life, so it is their duty to help convert anyone possible - after all, by not doing this they are effectively leaving these people to the clutches of hell.

 

My point is that you can't "respect religion" but also ask it to stay out of everyone's business. That's going against what religion is.

 

 

Religion in the world today in relation to moral rights, beliefs and laws creats a large loop. To be fair, religion is very personal. Regardless if there is a God or not, man made the majority of religion. This is obvious. The point where you bring your personal (religious) beliefs and try to overturn our standards (laws and moralities) of living life, you've crossed the line. Religion is belief, and standards are factual.  You can claim a religion is true, but you can never and will never prove it.  That's why we have laws in place, to keep the peace and harmony flowing in the real world.  

Every true christian I know will only try to convert a Christian who actually wants to be converted.  I've read the bible many times, In Matthew 10:14-42 it tells about unwillingness of others to listen to your persuasion to convert.  It gives the implication moreover to not worry about it, suggesting patience until judgement day. In Peter 1:21 it also tells about how God is spread from the word of man.  Nowhere in the bible does it imply mandatory to force belief upon others.  "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." - James 1:5. This further proves my point.  Realize the text states that if one asks for wisdom one shall receive. I greatly hence the "ask."

 

Personally I don't understand how people can believe so passionately in a book of myths and stories. Especially in today's world where it is blatantly obvious that religion is complete deception and to some extent, a scam. Of course back 500, 600 years ago it was hard not to believe in such things because humans didn't know any better. Although I do understand why people enjoy the sense of worth that religion gives - it makes you feel like there is actually a point to your life and that you matter to the Earth/Universe.

Personally I don't understand how people can believe so passionately in a book of myths and stories. Especially in today's world where it is blatantly obvious that religion is complete deception and to some extent, a scam. Of course back 500, 600 years ago it was hard not to believe in such things because humans didn't know any better. Although I do understand why people enjoy the sense of worth that religion gives - it makes you feel like there is actually a point to your life and that you matter to the Earth/Universe.

 

I actually had a relationship with a girl who was very religious for about 1,5 year. Her father is a preacher and her mother is even more religious than her husband. I actually went to church for the first time in my life and did so for over a year every time I was there on the weekends. No problem for me, really. There are things to be learned in church, some lessons and preaches do improve your life even if only a tiny bit. I am just not interested in believing in a god. To me, there is none.

 

I have the feeling that I matter to the Earth / Universe without religion. wink.png

 

 

My point is that you can't "respect religion" but also ask it to stay out of everyone's business. That's going against what religion is.

 

No, it doesn't. There's nothing wrong with telling people around you about your religion and what it has done for you. That's fine! But some religious people force the mentioning and trying to convert others. Whenever some Christian at the train station asks me to "tell me about God", I say I'm Jesus himself and they immediately stop bugging me. I just get tired of that stuff.

 

Edited by Gojira

 

I actually had a relationship with a girl who was very religious for about 1,5 year. Her father is a preacher and her mother is even more religious than her husband. I actually went to church for the first time in my life and did so for over a year every time I was there on the weekends. No problem for me, really. There are things to be learned in church, some lessons and preaches do improve your life even if only a tiny bit. I am just not interested in believing in a god. To me, there is none.

 

I have the feeling that I matter to the Earth / Universe without religion. wink.png

 

 

 

No, it doesn't. There's nothing wrong with telling people around you about your religion and what it has done for you. That's fine! But some religious people force the mentioning and trying to convert others. Whenever some Christian at the train station asks me to "tell me about God", I say I'm Jesus himself and they immediately stop bugging me. I just get tired of that stuff.

 

 

I'm so using that sometime xD

I'm atheist. My mum is a pretty religious sikh however my dad is a pretty nonreligious hindu. I go to the temple and such rarely just to please my mum. 

Personally you see religions like Islam, not all the people but some try to spread their religion over in the UK to people who don't want it. Theres videos of them randomly going up to people and stopping them from drinking, that isn't their choice too. If you want your laws go back to the middle east. I will admit to a degree you could call me racist but its my own opinion i'm entitled too and most of it is true. Just look at what happened, muslim extremists kill a random off duty solider, just why...

 

I actually had a relationship with a girl who was very religious for about 1,5 year. Her father is a preacher and her mother is even more religious than her husband. I actually went to church for the first time in my life and did so for over a year every time I was there on the weekends. No problem for me, really. There are things to be learned in church, some lessons and preaches do improve your life even if only a tiny bit. I am just not interested in believing in a god. To me, there is none.

 

I have the feeling that I matter to the Earth / Universe without religion. wink.png

 

 

 

No, it doesn't. There's nothing wrong with telling people around you about your religion and what it has done for you. That's fine! But some religious people force the mentioning and trying to convert others. Whenever some Christian at the train station asks me to "tell me about God", I say I'm Jesus himself and they immediately stop bugging me. I just get tired of that stuff.

 

 

Not trying to troll or flame, but you really don't matter. Neither do I, nor does anyone else. Humans just have a ridiculous ego and sense of self worth. Humans are just a bunch of atoms, like everything else - nothing more.

i dont like to sound bad or anything but ive picked up on something even tho my family belive i do not this is why.

all religions have the same outcomes they give motive to be good they put people in power and well they get tax free money, i dont need to explain it anymore just read this . http://beginningandend.com/jesus-copy-horus-mithras-dionysis-pagan-gods/

or watch this

 

dont let this stop you from beliveing just let it give you a wider look on life bye.

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