beastlymaul Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 For people that said no - what is your reasoning? So, if someone has scammed someone, if it is with solid proof the scammer will get banned, if there isn't completely solid proof the potential scammer gets the trade with caution PIP. After that no-one will trade that person. So in both cases someone has been scammed and nobody will trade the scammer again. It does the same thing Why not remove the pip after they're proven innocent? Like @Reaper he scammed @ScorpioZ. ScorpioZ had all the proof accept pics of the trade screens. Reaper even deleted and blocked scorpioz on skype after.... He still didn't get banned. True. Although going back to xNeyaa's point - people can still trade that person; they just need to be careful when doing it just as the other person going first or using mm and so on Im sure no one would go first to someone with that pip. Atleast people will use a MiddleMan and they wont be able to scam anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNeyaa Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 For people that said no - what is your reasoning? So, if someone has scammed someone, if it is with solid proof the scammer will get banned, if there isn't completely solid proof the potential scammer gets the trade with caution PIP. After that no-one will trade that person. So in both cases someone has been scammed and nobody will trade the scammer again. It does the same thing Why not remove the pip after they're proven innocent? Like @Reaper he scammed @ScorpioZ. ScorpioZ had all the proof accept pics of the trade screens. Reaper even deleted and blocked scorpioz on skype after.... He still didn't get banned. True. Although going back to xNeyaa's point - people can still trade that person; they just need to be careful when doing it just as the other person going first or using mm and so on Im sure no one would go first to someone with that pip. Atleast people will use a MiddleMan and they wont be able to scam anymore. true, but a middleman doesn't prevent you from getting scammed. i guess the PIP can work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 true, but a middleman doesn't prevent you from getting scammed. i guess the PIP can work. How does a Middle Man not prevent you from getting scammed. Using a Trusted user to see through with the payment (whatever) it may be is the best thing to preventing a scam. However something cannot be prevented when seeing through with the payment (paypal chargebacks). However you can reduce the possibility of a chargeback if you only trade with Trusted users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNeyaa Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 true, but a middleman doesn't prevent you from getting scammed. i guess the PIP can work. How does a Middle Man not prevent you from getting scammed. Using a Trusted user to see through with the payment (whatever) it may be is the best thing to preventing a scam. However something cannot be prevented when seeing through with the payment (paypal chargebacks). However you can reduce the possibility of a chargeback if you only trade with Trusted users. A middlemen doesn't prevent scamming, he just makes the other user make the poayment or give the information. Been scammed twice while using a middlemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 true, but a middleman doesn't prevent you from getting scammed. i guess the PIP can work. How does a Middle Man not prevent you from getting scammed. Using a Trusted user to see through with the payment (whatever) it may be is the best thing to preventing a scam. However something cannot be prevented when seeing through with the payment (paypal chargebacks). However you can reduce the possibility of a chargeback if you only trade with Trusted users. A middlemen doesn't prevent scamming, he just makes the other user make the poayment or give the information. Been scammed twice while using a middlemen it does when selling and buying gp :P i want a reply from Raflesia about this since he is the Community Manager but still no reply even when my thread has had 1k+ views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Maldesto Posted November 4, 2013 Administrator Share Posted November 4, 2013 This is a hard thing to decide, if someone scams they banned, if they pay back and get back in the community i agree the should get a TWC, but if they have a dispute against them it doesn't mean twc it means someone either got scammed by them or didn't, there is no inbetween. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashPlant512 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Isn't it possible for people to scam middleman? What if the person sends the money to the middleman and then chargesback, does the mm loose the money? Or does the mm just trade the gold, and the buyer is the one who collects the payments. Cause i MMd a trade before and it worked successfully (thank god lol) but i noticed that the person could have charged back anytime he wanted to really, but he didn't What if he did, (im not the seller no the buyer, im just making sure the 2 players recieve there payment) but what if I get my paypal chargedback for handeling the payment? OR Am i a nub and not supposed to use my own paypal, cause i have seen mm's collect the money and re send it to the seller with the -5% discount from there paypal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Maldesto Posted November 4, 2013 Administrator Share Posted November 4, 2013 Mm doesn't hold money mm makes guy prove he sent money and if he proves it the mm is already holding the others gp or account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I do think it is a good idea, but it would be a lot of work for the mods to manually add the PiP to everyone who is in a dispute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 I do think it is a good idea, but it would be a lot of work for the mods to manually add the PiP to everyone who is in a dispute. not even....... you see someone being disputed give them the PIP lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman The Dark Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushhy Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I think this would be a great idea. If a dispute is against someone, then it gives then the bar, if it is resolved then the bar goes away 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Maldesto Posted November 13, 2013 Administrator Share Posted November 13, 2013 Added 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...