Labazza Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 So I have another question, using mirror mode you can't use a proxy, I can create a connection routing all my traffic to that proxy so its not an issue but how would you open multiple clients on different IP, or would you use stealth and just connect to the proxies that way? Does mirror mode actually make a difference or is it something if your using a zulrah bot or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caketeaparty Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Labazza said: I have been using my proxy and it seems to be working absolutely fine so far, ive not been locked out yet anyway. How long before you normally see an issue with being locked out before if using a non residential IP address? All seems to be going well so far! Yeah I don't plan on F2P suiciding accounts if I can help it, I would like to run between 50-70 accounts in the end, im starting with just 5 at the moment. No issues yet, I just want to get some baseline results so I can see if what I am doing is working, what script works the best etc etc. Yeah I don't plan on botting more than 8 hours on each account in the week but go a little harder on the weekends. You will get locked if you linger in a f2p hotspot on a datacenter proxy. If you find you're getting locked as soon as you log in, it's time to change your entire setup because your IP/MAC may be flagged. Besides that, datacenter proxies appear to be one of botwatch's first priorities, accounts operating on them will almost certainly be profiled and banned before resi. It is possible to succeed with these IPs, but it will take a lot of testing with different providers, preferably a provider no one else is botting with. If you have a dynamic IP, try your home IP, make sure it's different from your main accounts'. If your home IP helps, you would do well to get a few cheap used laptops off of amazon/ebay or something and assign them each a resi IP from your own home router. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labazza Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, caketeaparty said: You will get locked if you linger in a f2p hotspot on a datacenter proxy. If you find you're getting locked as soon as you log in, it's time to change your entire setup because your IP/MAC may be flagged. Besides that, datacenter proxies appear to be one of botwatch's first priorities, accounts operating on them will almost certainly be profiled and banned before resi. It is possible to succeed with these IPs, but it will take a lot of testing with different providers, preferably a provider no one else is botting with. If you have a dynamic IP, try your home IP, make sure it's different from your main accounts'. If your home IP helps, you would do well to get a few cheap used laptops off of amazon/ebay or something and assign them each a resi IP from your own home router. I will look at getting better proxies but at the moment the one I am using seems to be fine, I am not entirely sure if it is a data centre IP but it is working at the moment. I actually have access to some old servers I am going to setup if this goes well that way I will be able to run loads of accounts. However I need to find a way of randomising the mac address for each instance or they will see loads of IP's coming from the same MAC address what could enable them to ban all of the accounts associated with the MAC address. Buying multiple computers will solve this but it is a very messy solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocryphal Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Note that one of the primary issuses in regards to using only one ip is chain banning. Get detected on one bot and you will likely find all your other bots operating on that same ip being banned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labazza Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Apocryphal said: Note that one of the primary issuses in regards to using only one ip is chain banning. Get detected on one bot and you will likely find all your other bots operating on that same ip being banned. Yeah, I have multiple proxies setup so each account has a different IP to prevent them chain banning my accounts, I was just wondering if anyone has had a problem with chain banning on mac address? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocryphal Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Labazza said: Yeah, I have multiple proxies setup so each account has a different IP to prevent them chain banning my accounts, I was just wondering if anyone has had a problem with chain banning on mac address? I have heard from people that they heard of people getting MAC banned in some cases. But I dont really believe it is a thing, maybe in very extreme bot cases or something. But honestly no clue, just guessing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labazza Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 Yeah i just saw somewhere someone said to randomise your mac addresses as well as proxies so who knows but I will see what happens I guess, all good so far anyways. Just trying to level them up a bit to keep my options open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Christ Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 6:52 AM, caketeaparty said: If you use a proxy, try to get a residential provider (they exist). As for gold farming methods, Youtube and Google are your friends. Most will keep their best methods to themselves and so should you. Don't expect to succeed without investing a lot of time and money into testing. Good luck. Can you explain how a residential proxy works better than a normal proxy from for example Virmach, in relation to OSBot? I'm trying to see why it works better for botting. Which providers do you use? Is it easy to use? How much does it cost for just botting 1 account? it's interesting, I never heard of such proxy, thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Christ Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Labazza said: Yeah i just saw somewhere someone said to randomise your mac addresses as well as proxies so who knows but I will see what happens I guess, all good so far anyways. Just trying to level them up a bit to keep my options open. Randomise? I don't understand. Do you just randomly choose a location of a proxy that you buy? Or do you enter random values somewhere...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labazza Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Jesus Christ said: Randomise? I don't understand. Do you just randomly choose a location of a proxy that you buy? Or do you enter random values somewhere...? No sorry I didnt write that very well, not randomise the proxies just a new tunnel for each client and the change the mac address for each client, that would be the safest bet, I will do some research later to see how it can be done, I know some of the people do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labazza Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Jesus Christ said: Can you explain how a residential proxy works better than a normal proxy from for example Virmach, in relation to OSBot? I'm trying to see why it works better for botting. Which providers do you use? Is it easy to use? How much does it cost for just botting 1 account? it's interesting, I never heard of such proxy, thank you. So I am also using Virmach as one of my proxy providers, so far it has been working fine with no issues. The reason for wanting a proxy with a residential IP address is because each ISP has a range of IP addresses that is uses for its business IP's and a range for its residential customers. Now a datacentre or provider will also have a range of IP addresses that it uses, Jadex have most likely got the IP range of all the big datacentres and made a note of them so if anyone logs in under one of them IP addresses it knows to monitor it more carefully because it already knows its not a residential IP address and in fact it is coming from a well established business, and they aren't many reason why you would have that. By displaying a residential IP you are adding another layer of protection, like mirror mode on the client, its never going to fully prevent you from getting banned its just going to slow them down hopefully! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labazza Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 So I brought a cooking script yesterday and the two accounts I used it on are already banned, I guess some scripts have a extremely high ban rate even if purchased! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoleo36 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 For how long did you bot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labazza Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 I went from 1 - 40 cooking on both accounts and left it at that, I did do it varrock east bank so wonder if someone reported me as it is a bit of a busy area. They were also both new accounts. My other accounts what are older are working great, no problems as of yet. I am starting to get a feel for botting and what is required to do it properly, I just need to learn a few more things and learn how to scale it safely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Good luck in your endevours. I hope you find OSBot helpful and theirs tones of guides & amazing people who can help with any of your needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
