Q Learing DeepLearning

[ownervs]

Any one Have Try Q Learning or Deep Learning for there Bot ? 

I made a Q Learning bot for A small Game I made with python

Or is it just Not Worth it Putting Weeks in training your Deep learning Ai When you can make Scripts ?

Since You need a few Input  for the bot or Runescape is just to vague to train your AI ?

Thank you  btw glad to be back after 5 years hahahah XD

[BotArmy_Sabo]

Ive been thinking AI too amigo

[IDontEB]

easier to just write a script, jagex is not that smart.

[Pegasus]

19 minutes ago, IDontEB said:

easier to just write a script, jagex is not that smart.

Really?? Why are you so sure?

[Alek]

Why would you train on real data? It would take you a really long time. Define deep learning and what specifically you plan on using. 

[Pegasus]

How do you learn Q Learning and Deep Learning ?

Do you have statistics background?

[IDontEB]

9 hours ago, Pegasus said:

Really?? Why are you so sure?

script with no flaws lasts 5+ days 24/7 easily and can be written within a day with another day to work kinks out. Scripts going down a machine learning route are going to take quite a bit of time to train and work all the kinks out to improve their gp/h or exp/h rates.

If jagex were even a tiny bit smarter/cared about their bot problem they wouldn't resort to manually outlining behaviors for their detection system and eventually resort machine learning to identify bots.

[ownervs]

11 hours ago, Alek said:

Why would you train on real data? It would take you a really long time. Define deep learning and what specifically you plan on using. 

There Are Guide how to make Q learning bot For Game

With python you can run a self playing bot for a simple game,  Runescape is more complex  then It will need Deep Learning Neural Network  with it will take  month to train  with a good GPU  but it will be the smartest Bot ever that I doubt runescape could detect , since its play like human?

 

btw i will try to make a small version to try runescape simple task at first to see if it worth it.

 

 

 

[Alek]

1 minute ago, ownervs said:

There Are Guide how to make Q learning bot For Game

With python you can run a self playing bot for a simple game,  Runescape is more complex  then It will need Deep Learning Neural Network  with it will take  month to train  with a good GPU  but it will be the smartest Bot ever that I doubt runescape could detect , since its play like human?

 

btw i will try to make a small version to try runescape simple task at first to see if it worth it.

 

 

 

Okay stop saying buzz words and just tell me you're using tensor flow and call it a day.

[Hi G00gle]

4 hours ago, IDontEB said:

script with no flaws lasts 5+ days 24/7 easily and can be written within a day with another day to work kinks out. Scripts going down a machine learning route are going to take quite a bit of time to train and work all the kinks out to improve their gp/h or exp/h rates.

If jagex were even a tiny bit smarter/cared about their bot problem they wouldn't resort to manually outlining behaviors for their detection system and eventually resort machine learning to identify bots.

 

No. Simply because a machine is performing the input the human has given, and since humans are giving the input, mistakes are made, so it wouldn't be wise to actually let a system automate that proces.

[ownervs]

1 hour ago, Alek said:

Okay stop saying buzz words and just tell me you're using tensor flow and call it a day.

 

using deeplearning4j 

[IDontEB]

4 hours ago, Hi G00gle said:

 

No. Simply because a machine is performing the input the human has given, and since humans are giving the input, mistakes are made, so it wouldn't be wise to actually let a system automate that proces.

Why would it not be smart to automate the process? Jagex clearly has the data to determine which collected data points resemble that of a bot and which data points resemble a human. From there they can get a correlation coefficient and anything less than a certain percent they can simple just have a human review the account.

[Hi G00gle]

1 hour ago, IDontEB said:

Why would it not be smart to automate the process? Jagex clearly has the data to determine which collected data points resemble that of a bot and which data points resemble a human. From there they can get a correlation coefficient and anything less than a certain percent they can simple just have a human review the account.

Wherever humans work, there are mistakes. How often has it happened that there was a mistake in the bot detection which then again was admitted by Jagex theirselves? If you were to automate the proces, it might trigger that system and it would lead to a ban. Bans should never be automated like that. Even _if_ there was to be some sort of review, that would take you back to the same way they are doing now: Manual bans. It just wouldn't be as high scaled probably, but still none the less the same.

[IDontEB]

1 hour ago, Hi G00gle said:

Wherever humans work, there are mistakes. How often has it happened that there was a mistake in the bot detection which then again was admitted by Jagex theirselves? If you were to automate the proces, it might trigger that system and it would lead to a ban. Bans should never be automated like that. Even _if_ there was to be some sort of review, that would take you back to the same way they are doing now: Manual bans. It just wouldn't be as high scaled probably, but still none the less the same.

So if humans shouldn't ban bots that are flagged by the system since humans make mistakes and machine shouldn't ban bots since they make mistakes who the fuck bans bots?

[Rxd]

18 minutes ago, IDontEB said:

who the fuck bans bots?