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    Free 10 days of VIP!

    in News & Announcements

    Posted

    you guys better extend my vip too since i couldnt bot yesterday because my scripts didnt load!! :'((

     

    Everyone who has VIP got a 10 day extension. That is what the OP is stating.

    But I'm glad you are expressing you're happy with it...

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    VIP 50% discount [offer expires May 13'th]

    in News & Announcements

    Posted

    Dear community,

     

    As a gesture to the community for the SDN related issues over the past 4 days we will be giving everyone the opportunity to get a VIP subscription for 50% of the price. 

     

    Ever thought of:

    • Trying out the Mirror Client mode?
    • Test your skills at running a bot farm?
    • Wanted to stand out like all the other VIP cool kids?
    • Stand a chance to get a couple of 99's without getting banned using the Mirror Client mode?

    Then seize the opportunity before the 13'th of May and get your VIP for only $4.99! instead of $9.99.

     

    Sincerely,

     

    The OSBot staff

     

    P.S. Current VIP users were granted 10 extra days to their subscription automatically as a compensation for any experienced inconvenience.

    • Like 12

    Free 10 days of VIP!

    in News & Announcements

    Posted

    Dear community,

     

    Over the past couple of days we have experienced issues with the SDN. These issues have been resolved as of today.

     

    Because we care about our customers we want to make a small gesture to you all. To compensate all our VIP users we will be giving out 10 free extra days of VIP to all current VIP subscribers. These will be added to your expiration date automatically, so you don't have to worry about it at all!

     

    We will also have a 50% discount for new VIP subscribers in the next 7 days. VIP will not cost you $9.99 but only $4.99, so take your chance on buying VIP this week! Always thought of trying out the Mirror Client BETA? Seize the opportunity today.

     

    Sincerely,

     

    The OSBot staff

    • Like 23

    Script Loader

    in News & Announcements

    Posted

    Dear community,

     

    We are aware of the issue with the script loader. The issue arises from the update to Java 8, which for some reason causes some scripts to not get packed completely by the server. This is most likely due to the update to Java 8 which (for who knows what reason) caused a race condition in the SDN compiler. We have narrowed the possible solutions down and we will have to try each one of them until we find the one that fixes it.

     

    We are sorry for the inconvenience but let us reassure that the issue is not being ignored, this is a very important matter to both you and us.

     

    Sincerely,

     

    The OSBot staff

    • Like 13

    Sunday Downtime

    in News & Announcements

    Posted

    Dear community,

    Today our server faced something we would have expected the least; failure of two SSD hard drives. Unfortunately the hosting company responded very slow on this occasion but @Zach worked very hard to get everything back up and running. The hardware was replaced with new hardware and the server was re-installed.

    Our back-ups were pretty much up to date, we might have only lost a couple of hours of the database. What did we learn from this? Don't rely on SSD's not breaking down, have multiple backups available.

    If you have lost posts or threads you made in those couple of hours between our last back-up and the server failure, please repost yours if important. If you forgot what you post in your thread you could use Google's webcache for example.

    We are very sorry for your inconvenience and are happy we can shrug of the stress this brought with it today. The bot server is back online as well as the forums. Various parts of the website / server are not working as they should yet, this will get straightened out over the next few hours. If you encounter any problems or issues, please report them. NOTE: The bot server is still being configured, this means that for some it will work, for others it won't. This should be resolved shortly as we are working on it.

    -Thanks to @Dex for notifying @Maldesto.
    -Thanks to @Maldesto for notifying @Zach and me.
    -And last but not least, thanks to @Zach for the work done on the server.

    Sincerely,

    The OSBot team

    • Like 24

    Been gone awhile

    in Community Discussion

    Posted

    First of all welcome back smile.png

     

    Our standard mode does still use client injection, however we have a new mode called 'mirror mode' which hooks onto the actual RuneScape client and does not use injection making it far less detectable by Jagex. This has significantly lowered the reported bans, it is still in BETA mode and can only be accessed by people VIP+ at the moment but its definitely worth reading about smile.png - http://osbot.org/forum/topic/66803-what-is-osbots-mirror-client/

    Mirror Client mode does perform injection. It does it in a different way though which results in any injection performed not being visible on the level of the JVM, thus bypassing the injection detection systems used by the OSRS client.

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    Does Jagex detect bot clients?

    in Botting & Bans

    Posted

    Fair enough. Can't really word out what I'm trying to say back to that other than isn't there something more we could do against client said detection then? Was trying for like 10 minutes to explain what I meant but couldn't figure out how to say it.

    One of the things we could do is the Mirror Client mode, which bypasses this detection. We have several other ideas that could bring performance back to the same as the standard mode, but we will have to experiment with that in the future.

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    Does Jagex detect bot clients?

    in Botting & Bans

    Posted

    Is there any proof of client level detection systems? I'm not trying to sound conceited or whatever, and you know way more than me about anything to do with programming, but have there been test for people who will just play on the osbot client to see if they get banned? I've logged in countless times to get coordinates or id's for scripts, and i've never had an account hit off from just logging in.

     

    Because wouldn't they:

    • Ban accounts right as they logged in
    • Block access and not allow you to log in
    That's what world of warcraft does, if they detect cheat engine(not botting but similar in terms of against the rules) on your computer, they won't let you login until you close the .exe and restart your computer.

    There is proof of client level detection systems. It's their server though who flags it as a modified client and determines what specific client it is though. But the data to be able to do so is collected client sided and send to their server. There are multiple ways within that system that could lead to detection, simply bypassing it not something that is easily done.

    To answer your other question: there most likely multiple reasons why they don't instant ban all bots. One of them could be that they need information to feed their machine learning systems a.k.a. Bot Watch. Another reason could be how the economy would crash if they would ban all bots at the same time. Another could be a strategy to get players to play legit again. Making them loose accounts that have build up things might still keep the players attached to the game but stay away from botting. I simply wouldn't know what their motives are, this is all speculation, but what isn't speculation is the fact that they can detect most bots on a client level (all regular injection / reflection bots, Mirror Client is injection with an entirely different story though).

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    Does Jagex detect bot clients?

    in Botting & Bans

    Posted

    Hi, is the mirror client basically a reflection based client, or does it do anything more than that?

    The Mirror Client uses injection but done completely different than what the botting scene has seen so far. Let's just say it does a way better job at hiding its presence. In fact, the injection can't be seen with their current client.

    It does two things, it hides its injection for their client level detection systems and leaves the OSRS client in its original execution environment.

    Does Jagex detect bot clients?

    in Botting & Bans

    Posted

    Yes they can detect most bot clients and identify them specifically. But if injected in the right way, it becomes way harder to detect at the client level. The Mirror Client mode on OSBot does that and proves that many bans are based on client detection for the biggest part, seeing as how much lower the banning rates are on the Mirror mode. The standard mode on OSBot is similar to the injection methods most other bots use and comes with a higher ban rate.

    You can read about our thoughts on their detection system in the thread I posted about reducing ban rates in the main announcement section.

    @ person above me: They gather information for their machine learning systems. Just logging in a bot client won't get you banned as their detection system is not solely based on client detection, but probably also on gains (xp, wealth etc) and behavioural patterns learned by their machine learning systems. It may get you banned though by just logging in alone.

    Like I already said, I think the mirror client proves the point. Besides that, they have publicly admitted they can identify most main stream bigger bots specifically. As a developer I know why and how they do it.

    Can't do more than 3-4 mirror clients!

    in Archive

    Posted

    Yesterday I tested how many bots I could do(for fun). Got to 10 and it wasn't even lagging. But on the Chat Box someone said that it was bugged and eats memory? Anyone elaborate on that?

     

    Just checked my CPU usage. 3-4 mirror modes 100%, i7 3.4ghz processor. Yesterday though i was running 10 normal mode and didnt even crack 50% cpu.

    The mirror client mode compromises CPU and memory resources for less detectability. Results have shown that the mirror client greatly improves your chances of not getting banned. In the future we will be able to bring the difference down by a lot, but this will take time.

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    99 fletching on Mirror Client

    in Runescape

    Posted

    I am sure It'd take so much more than a snapshot for them to catch up. Id be shocked if they didn't notice these mirror mode bots already, when they start seeing a string of accounts with bot like behaviors but don't go down as easily as typical bots.

     

    Incase you're genuinely worried I will don't be I am not going to make a twitter account for the sole purpose to contact him.

    It's just best practice not to provoke or wake up sleeping dogs.

    • Like 2

    maxing cb

    in Runescape

    Posted

    There will be a warriors guilds script that's free for VIP's, I will probably have it ready for testing by the end of this week. Also a Bandits script will be released, I still have a private one laying around that I used for myself a long time ago but it still works.

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