Zappster

You're such a nerd Nice post dude

That mustang tho hnng almost came

Haha. Inventory Hotkeying is done. I'm at work atm so when I get back home I'll get a gif.

Yet again, this has nothing to do with you. Look at the support this suggestion has. A search of the forums show that this has not been posted before and yet again..... You do no trades so you don't even know what you are talking about. Off this thread it doesn't concern you.

Im sick of making this point. If I see someone is banned on a forums, I would assume they scammed. If I can get proof that all they did was "harrass" a staff member, then I'll still trade with them. You don't make any trades on here so you don't understand at all why I, or others, would want this.

If @Keven agrees to this, then so does zapp

Release his email! Why is he in TWC btw, from what I've read in CB it was a massive cockup

That doesnt excuse you from playing BF1 right now get on man

He has DDR4 ram and a better mobo Edit; get on bf1 Edit2: vodka mixed up the urls

Stop nothing as we have already witnessed this week

I think you underestimate how easy is it to obtain personal information on the internet. And now we are getting heavily off topic. The email shouldn't be used for a dox, like I said. It should be there to discourage the younger generation of scapers to avoid scamming as the consiquences are real.

The only house I'm sending food to is my own. Why the fuck would I give the scammer food? Let's take Jonny for example, didn't someone ring him recently after screwing you over which caused him to return ownership of the account back?

A simple phone call to the suspect can do wonders and can strike enough fear into someone to either 1. Think twice about doing it in the future or 2. Return the goods

Now we're getting into the side that OSBot shouldn't be affiliated with and I'm not comfortable discussing that in the open. The emails should be there for another cross refrence against a scammer. If dox happens, it happens and OSBot shouldn't be responsible for that.

I've never been scammed on OSBot. I highly respected Pak Yak Scum before I did a little digging. I like this community, I enjoy the people and I will defend the people. Make a user group "Scammer Squad" and put me as the officer, I'll come down on these cunts like it's 1945. If you're on here to scam, you're on here to scam me and my friends.

Nothing at all. That's why you take the registered email. 9/10 that registered email is going to be linked to one they have used somewhere else. Somewhere that has maybe had a database breach which is currently public (or private, soon to be public). How many of these 12-16 year old kids who scam know about propper opsec? How many of these kids can say "well, yeah, I can risk scamming these people they will never find out who i am hahah"

A registered email is enough to discourage a majority of people from scamming. Personal information is the only weapon we have against these types of people.

You make a great point here. At no point should OSBot condone hacking/doxing. An email should only be released under certain circumstances such as the recent case with Pak Yak Scum. He was in CB and scammed 3+ people to take away 180m (200m+ as he got some people from within his Clan chat) and must follow some strict guidelines set by the admin/whoever is in charge. When i do a trade with a user, I ask for the login name for the account, that way I can lookup online and do a quick search for any scams. A personal email may be linked to paypal for example. This is just an extra check I can do to ensure that the user is not a scammer (yes I understand you can add extra emails to paypal and remove it, but we are not going after the people who are aware, those guys always find a way). If this was my forums, there would be very strict guidlines in which a users email would be released. 1 report is clearly not enough but 3 over the course of 24 hours is enough to determine if a user has scam quit from the site - like the case with Pak Yak Scum. NL (osbot is hosted in nl) law states that if the user consents to the email being released, there's fuck all they can do (lawyers still need to double check this). A change to a ToS and an option to shut down your OSBot account during the ToS change should be implimented if this was to actually happen. I understand your concerns with releasing emails but as stated. Very strict guidelines need to be met before that information is released. This is all possible to do in a legal manner aswell.

So if this was added to the ToS this would be allowed? Still would need OSBot's lawyer to go over it, but with the way things are looking it looks like Maldesto does not want to go ahead with this idea. Thanks for taking the time to research this.

Well if that's where you stand then you may aswell lock this thread. Plenty of people have pledged support and I'm all out of arguments for now.

A dox is a punishment. If you ban me for punishing the person that scammed me, then you're are no better than the scammer. You're his accomplice in my eyes. I know that's a pretty far stretch. And the rules right now on OSBot tell me it's bad to do that. But there's litterly no punishment for scammers right now

We want the reason for which they was banned. By the look of your profile you do no trades so this shouldn't concern you.

Damn reddit bots man I think you may be thinking a little close minded. There's multiple reasons. One being curiosity with those I have previously dealt with, but also those who I may deal with in the future. Fact is, if I see someone banned on a forums I'm resilent to deal with them. If they tell me they are banned for harrasment I will assume it's for scamming and will refuse to trade with them, however, If there's a topic on that forum I can search thru to find the true reason (posted by a verified staff member who has access to that information) and it confirms the ban was just for harrasment, I will most likely trade with that user. Right now it's hard to find which member has scammed or have just been permed because of harrasments/other OSBot rules they have broken. I understand you may not see the reason for a lookup, but it takes less than 10 seconds to write a username and a short brief explanation of why that user was banned and it does more than just "looks up a banned member for the lolz". That's true, but what I meant to say is that we can't even currently view the rep to work out the reason of a ban (if they had a -1 to show why they was banned for scamming).

The fact is that you can't click on the usernames of the banned users and go thru the post history (or view the rep). Generic names are a pain to search via google. Much easier if we can just get a topic we can ctrl+f thru and find the answer in seconds imo.

Let's ask on reddit... https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/5etudd/nl_dpa_question_releasing_emails_of_people/