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I've requested @Sylveon to post his and moved him into the TWC usergroup for the remainder of the dispute. I will also make @Basic aware of this.

Disputed member: @Basic & @Sylveon Thread Link: http://osbot.org/forum/topic/66929-%C2%BB-basics-aio-service-cheap-reliable-trusted-247-%C2%AB/ Explanation:So i did Make a order of 5 accounts to be Done by hand and paid them 50m for all 5 and today Sylevon Pm me saying that they to cancel the order and i check 2 of my accounts are perm Banned For botting Evidence:

You have 48 hours to refund or you will be banned. Unless pain agrees on a payment date

Do you mean how I started creating the nodes? If that is what you mean, I made a small program that allows you to add nodes directly to the world map. Once I had the rought spots mapped I made the script walk the map and add new nodes that seemed good. Then once they were added I edited/added missing and invalid nodes

There is one. Safari Type in 'osbot.org/forum' And you will automatically be in the mobile version of the site. If not, go to the bottom left of the screen and click on mobile version. And tadaaa, osbot's own personal app. (IP.B does this for their sites, so you being on safari should suffice). teamviewer.com

Working on 1 ... Still neeeds lots of work. Czar almost finished hes also Don't know hes ETA on release though ...

I think it'd be nice to have the client be able to notify you if say you didn't get xp for more then 20 minutes you'll get a message and can choose to kill the client from your phone. Not really interested in forums and chat tbh..

Molly's Thiever This script is designed to quickly and efficiently level your thieving! Check out the features below. Buy HERE Features: - Capable of 200k+ per hour and 30k+ exp/ph on mid-level thieving accounts. - Quickly reaches 38 thieving to get started on those master farmers for ranarr and snap seeds! - Fixes itself if stuck. - Hopping from bot-worlds. - Stun handling so the bot doesn't just continually spam click the npc. - Drops bad seeds if inventory is full at master farmers. - Eats any food at the hp of your choosing. Supports: -Lumbridge men -Varrock tea -Ardougne cake -Ardougne silk -Ardougne fur -Kourend Fruit Stalls -Ardougne/Draynor master farmer -Ardougne/Varrock/Falador guards -Ardougne knight -Ardougne paladin -Ardougne hero -Blackjacking bandits as well as Menaphite thugs, this has limitations, click the spoiler below to see them Setup: Select your option from the drop down menu, it will tell you the location where the target is located. Fill out the gui and hit start. Simple setup! Proggies: Proggy from an acc started at 38 theiving:

3/17 So we have all experienced the banhammer very much as of late and I would just like to share my personal experiences here to help everyone out. To do so I conducted a mini experiment: I've recently been using the Lazy Assistant Script by Project Pat (Great Product). I made 2 accounts use it via injection and one via mirror. Then I wced all the accounts for 8 hours in Mirror Mode. Today the two accounts that I used with the injection client with Lazy Assistant this morning were banned, While the one fully used in mirror mode is still chopping away. Conclusion: From this I've resolved that Jagex can go back and check if your account has used the injection method, regardless of how many days ago it was. I can also safely assume they have some sort of program that scans their player database for injection and *poof*... they nail the banhammer into your precious account. This also explains how they can forgo an appeals process on these accounts as well, because they have the hard evidence showing that some external program has altered their game. I will continue to post updates on accounts etc if evidence begins to show me differently, but my recommendation is that injection is dead. So use only mirror mode. Otherwise your account is a short-living ticking time bomb. Happy botting guys! 3/18 Alright so some new information. I stupidly ran both, the surviving strictly mirror account, and a new account (set up completely with mirror mode) for 14 hours wcing and they as of today have both been perma banned. The wcing ban rate is very high right now and both areas where I botted were F2P. My theory update is that as well as an automated system they have JMods that watch F2P worlds like a hawk. Will be switching my botting regiment up to make it a little less obvious. Going to make some member accounts and work on various stats. From this I'm drawing that F2P suiciding is not gonna be the way to go. More to come here... 3/19 - 3/23 Alright so I made a weird discovery here over the past couple days regarding injection, but I think I have some really good insight regarding new accounts because of it. So over the past couple days I made three new F2P accounts (all of which were going to be botted using injection). Now I think it was Maxi who had a theory regarding tiers and this I believe supports that idea. Now two of the accounts I botted just using Lazy Assistant's New Account Walker feature while the other I legitimately trained up combat a little bit, fishing, cooking, and THEN began to bot woodcutting. Now here's what the weird part was... This morning I woke up and my two Autowalker accounts were banned... They haven't even been skilled at all yet and the walker was flawless, but obviously their system still detected the injected client. My woodcutter however managed to survive... My theory here is that there are tiers for accounts possibly based on total levels. You better believe Jagex watches those new F2P accounts like hawks, but if you legitimately play on the account for a little bit and switch it up skills wise you basically pass a "legitimacy test". The other thing I found strange too is that I purposely botted all these accounts on the same IP on the same computer at the same time and only the fresher two got banned. Any ideas on this? Please post in the replies. More insight coming soon! Special thanks to Maxi for the insight on tiers when releasing the Mirror Client. P.S. Will update post if wcer gets a delayed ban of some sort, but it doesn't look that way so far. Conclusion: From this I'm beginning to think one of two things or possibly even both... Either they scan F2P worlds for the modified clients OR they scan for it based on total levels. The third possibility is obviously that I got unlucky as shit, but that's much less likely I presume. More to come! 3/24-3/29 The following took place using mirror mode... Haven't had a ton of time to bot, but here goes nothing. The surviving bot from the previous dates has since been banned. The strange thing is the one time it got banned was the second time I botted it overnight. The mistake I made I believe was botting woodcutting consistently for too long. I spent solid 4 days approx. 10 hrs per day doing the same exact same task. I'm a believer that overnight botting is a bad idea. You better believe Jagex knows your timezone. I think the baseline tests are done and I'm going to try mixing in some legitimate play time with my next account and see how it does. Bottom line is suicide botting any one skill makes your account a ticking time bomb and ultimately is not worth it. Mirror mode is close to completely undetectable. Conclusion: I think I played in the same area too long and my account got caught because of the account patterns. We'll see if mixing it up helps out. Gonna be a little more creative and report back. Happy botting! 3/30-4/1 Alright so some less insightful news here, but good news none the less... Well the good part is that I have 3 accounts running on mirror doing different tasks every couple of hours and they have yet to be banned. The bad news is I was making an account for my man @Valkyr and was NOT using mirror mode. That account has been banned sadly. This information is obviously brief, but it's a pretty good way to start wrapping up this thread. I'll be doing some more periodic updates as my farming grows, but it will certainly be over larger periods of time. Conclusion: What I'm realizing is that with the mirror client, the only thing left to detect is patterning. In all honesty I think now it's on the scriptors to become more creative with randomized path making and movements to make everything as humanlike as possible. As far as I can see as the mirror client continues to improve, so does my botting ability. I've been having a lot of success in general with Masterace Omega. I think a lot of that is because of the randomized web walking etc and I'm beginning to see those kind of scripts being the real future as opposed to single task scripts. Good luck scriptors. You have your work cut out for ya! Credits: As the core content of this begins to wrap up (but trust me there is definitely more to come) I hope people have been getting a lot of help from my experiences. This is only the genesis, but I want to give some specific shout outs to some of the people on here who have made this research possible. @Maldesto For OSBot and the community as a whole (duh) @Maxi and the rest of the development team for working their asses off to develop the mirror client (aka the client that has saved botting). @ProjectPact for the Lazy AIO script I used for the creation of my accounts (and gratz on Son Scriptor rank buddy!) @Divinity For MasterRace which has headlined an improvement in overall bot quality from all the scriptors. And last but most certainly not least I wanna thank every who has commented with deep insight and great tips throughout the discussion here. Much of my testing was based off of assumptions you guys posted in the comments and I would have nowhere to start without you. So thank you OSBot members for your contributions and remember... THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING ~ Cruelhitz

Dear community, As most of you know Jagex released the Free to Play version of the OSRS game again today. I am very excited, because this will create many new opportunities for botters. With the past couple of months being about many releases of OSBot to strengthen the bot's stability, we have managed to expand our user base again. I am very happy about this and we should thank the entire staff team for all of their efforts! Thanks to @Alek @Zach @Maldesto @MGI @Divinity @Dex @Noah @Oliver @Anne @Basic and all ex-staff members who have contributed over the past months! But not only Jagex is bringing new things. We will be bringing some very nice things to the table in the time to come. The first thing will involve an entirely new way of loading the OSRS client in OSBot that will lower chances of Jagex being able to flag players as bots based on the client. Right now all bots out there suffer from the same issue, Jagex is able to flag bot users based on the client. This is not only the case for OSRS but also for RS3. On top of this, it will allow us to become the first bot in history that will allow users to use a proxy per tab, instead of a proxy per bot application. This new way of loading the OSRS client will be implemented in the OSBot 2 client as an option to use. This will stand for this feature its BETA. You will be able to use the old loading and the new loading, so if there is a bug you can report it and we can have it fixed for the official release. On another note, we will be bringing forward a special collection of new scripts. First of all, we will make available a collection of VIP only scripts written by some of the best script writers that will be newly introduced to OSBot soon. Secondly, there will be a special script collection written by the same script writers that will guarantee an overall level of quality and maintenance. These scripts will get implemented and become available over the coming months. We hope you are just as excited as we are for this all to be deployed! Sincerely, Maxi & the OSBot team

Hey guys, I recently achieved 99 hunter! I actually did 63-99 using Extreme AIO Hunter! Great bot, thank you Divinity!

Remember when you used to send me snap chat nudes everyday? Oh wait that still happens

Sleepy I sit here Scrolling up and down again Achieving nothing

first spear today

Thanks for the hasty updates

With the experience I have with Extreme AIO Hunter, I've recommended some great updates to Divinity which he is working on making happen

Depnds on how you bot them, I've had two accounts make it to 99 this week. Both of them botted 21 hours a day one of them got banned today, other one with 99 still going strong 15M+ XP.

a fresh account who goes right to hunter places is clearly a bot lol, just wait some time to bot at first. Fresh accounts have a higher change to get ban

It's done being made! Just getting a progress report now! The script has been pushed to the SDN!

I came home from school to see this script worked for about 3 hours before accidently unequipping the trident and getting an error saying there is no charges left when I had 982, I didn't really care but will look into this issue if it happens again. I open up my bank to find this and everything is great. Edit: found the error, it was my fault.

maybe if you actually read the thread about it http://osbot.org/forum/topic/66338-reducing-banning-rates-behind-the-scenes-at-osbot-27-febuary-2015/?view=getnewpost http://osbot.org/forum/topic/66803-what-is-osbots-mirror-client/

purchased!

Use teamviewer from mobile phone. You can controll your bots from there.

I'd expecting nothing else from OSBot users (Android).

Huge vouch for this guy! Was always a hard worker of mine!

Just bought this script, hope it's worth the money ! Doesn't drop the tunas when fishing for swords in karamja!

This is a very interesting thread and I'm going to throw my point of view out there as well. Ive been doing a lot of experimenting myself. SO I dont have any extremely hard evidence cause Im relatively new to OSBot but this is what Ive gathered so far. I think the no appeal perm bans come from either code based level ID like you said, or from a JMod sweep. Ive heard from other sites that JMods will go to hotspots and scoop up bots by the bundle. I think this happened to me (its hard telling with this whole "delayed ban" thing) let me explain. So I started two accounts, one that was going to be a skilled pure and the other was going to be a pure pker. The skilled pure was going pretty good, and I was "playing it safe" switching up skills and talking to people. Making trades, etc. The PKer I had suiciding at chickens for like 8+ hours a day. Picking up feathers and killing chickens. Thats it. Pretty obvious bot pattern. So on Day 3 of botting I swtiched up skills again. Grabbed some feathers on the skilled pure and took him to Edgeville for fly fishing, left the pker at chickens. Had the skiller fly fishing for maybe an hour, or 2 max, when I went to check on it, found out it was perm banned for marcoing[No Appeal]. Checked my pker, still good to go, left him botting all night, still unbanned in the morning. So I wanted to see if it was the fishing that got me banned, Made a new skiller pure, this one going to be a pure fisher. Also started training other stats on my Pure Pker to make it look more "legit". Trained the fisher pure from 1-55 fishing in a day and a half, fishing over 4,000 trouts/salmons without a ban. Savagely botting. Max Hours/Mis Clicks/The Whole Scoop. So this doesnt prove that fishing got me banned, only that I was likely banned by a person and not a program; Unless I was banned for something else and they delayed it, which makes me wonder why the Pker is still going strong. Trained the Pker for the last 5 days botting, still no ban. So I can't necessarily tell if you're right about injections getting you instant banned. I think the instant bans come from the Mods doing bot reports on hot spots. Im still waiting to see if my bots are in the "trial period" and get purged tho but so far so good,.

either means nothing or 2deep4me

He never told you the accounts combat and you agreed to do a service, what if he said i need monkey madness done and he was level 3?

I just got my first spear, yay. I love this script keep up the great work.

Hmmm, this AIO Lazy Assistant script seems legit. I might have to try it out. ;)

Make sure you have one java version installed, uninstall all the other javas (including 64 bit ones) and then try again

Thank you for posting the information, best of luck selling.

Now I know your secret.

For sure, keep us posted I am debating switching to farming with mirror mode

I'm not discounting your testing, as it seems to have been done cleanly and precisely, imo it is just too small to be certain of anything

I've had 2 accounts banned in the last 12 hours. One making bow strings and the other fishing at catherby.. I've had 7 accounts banned in total now both on rs3 and 07. Chances that my IP is flagged? I may buy VIP just for the mirror mode lol.

Tick fishing looks nice but is there a way to ensure that the bot mis-clicks some? Also clicking at different spots on the tree/food/fishing spot?

Hi, sorry my english isnt good. I explain something more about your 2nd Method of detecting the player. Here how it works: - Runescape also saves cookies, and has also changed to the new method called "canvas fingerprinting". It works really like a unique fingerprint, it saves all your data you are sending even before the cookie has been made because your computer sends them data which is written your plugins, browser setting, colours and screen resolution and all the technical stuff. So if you bot with your Account 1 and get banned, then you delete cookies, install your bot new and all the necessarly stuff, u didnt change ur browser settings/screen resolution/colours and stuff like that. So they have a database with all the stored "Fingerprints" and those are helping them identifing botters/hackers/scammers because they all have the data from your first and every Account you created. Oh, and what i wanted to say is that you should change browser and stuff like that to avoid being banned If someone understands what i mean feel free to rewrite it for me You can test your fingerprint here https://panopticlick.eff.org/ dont click this link yet if you dont believe me but pls understand my idea, you might know what i mean

I personally do not believe antiban helps at all to prevent bans. If anything, it potentially causes them

nice 'scipter'

Botre, I am looking forward to the release of this bot script. It already looks incredible, I can only imagine when it's done. Congratulations and good luck. Rutsy

Best of luck.

A few days ago I got to go back and visit @Ely again over winter-break and it was such an incredible experience. We had to wait around a month from our last visit in order to see each other again (http://osbot.org/forum/topic/63054-ely-i/) but as always the wait is always worth it when it comes to her. Last time I was unable to meet her father so this was the first time we met face to face which was a little nerve racking to say the least. However, even though I was a bit nervous to start off everything went perfect. Here are some pictures from our time together - This is us at Starbucks, and I was meeting Ely's best friend Here is a candid of us at the mall, and then - Here is us actually ready to take a picture We went out ice-skating on the last day with each other Us relaxing on the couch one night while watching some movies ayyeeee It was such an incredible time, and thank you OSBot again for bringing her and I so close. Until next time. - Smart

i'd recommend not using osban to farm your gold

Not to be mean/rude but my script is free and you want to ask 6$ for this... I actually want you to have good sales ( i don't care if people use mine or not as it is free) so i'd suggest reconsidering the price otherwise no one will buy it