Banned x2. Should I still go VIP???

[Nathan2302]

Im aware there will be a million billion threads for this exact topic and its usually the same shit every single time.

I read up the tips on how to bot and followed them with two accounts. One was combat leveling and the other was fishing.

Im not a vip, I was using the stealth injection. Over the past couple days I was really enjoying how the botting was working in my favour, the testing I was running before going vip was all coming back positive. But then I got banned on the combat bot. I decided it may have been the hours I was botting for and moved onto the next test, I made a fishing account, to see how easily that would or would not be banned as the skill is pretty much afk'able. I got banned in a couple hours.

Now I still have high hopes for this. There is no way this service has gone on for the length of time it has gone on for, with so many members, vip's, donors and script makers, if every bot gets banned within a few hours every single time.

So I might be willing to give this a third try, I must be doing something wrong right? Or maybe its the difference between 'standard' and 'vip'.

If I spend the $10 to become a vip, would my money be wasted? Does vip add extra levels of protection so I can bot with better ease and not worry about being banned within a day of starting?

[Charlotte]

You can try mirror mode. Afterall it's just $10 for a month. Give it a try!

[RomeoFarnas]

Mirror helps for me sure. Using vip for 2 months right now and still not bannend on my pure account.

Only use stealth injection for mass suicide bot.

[Nathan2302]

24 minutes ago, Charlotte said:

You can try mirror mode. Afterall it's just $10 for a month. Give it a try!

 

Appreciate it man, I dont know the difference between mirror and injection, I'm too scared to bot on my main just yet but if I can stop getting alts banned with vip I might give it a shot!

4 minutes ago, RomeoFarnas said:

Mirror helps for me sure. Using vip for 2 months right now and still not bannend on my pure account.

Only use stealth injection for mass suicide bot.

Appreciate it. I might give it a go today then? Fingers crossed!!

[Gunman]

@Nathan2302 Were you doing this in F2P or P2P? F2P has insanely higher ban rates. Also the way Mirror Mode works is one it will connect to the official runescape client making it look like you're using the offical client and not a 3rd party. Two it has a reaction system that can go anywhere from 50-5000 ms (1000ms = 1 second), which people believe help change the timing pattern the script would normally use. Do keep in mind some script won't work with Mirror unless it's set to 50ms also there is a few scripts that don't work with it at all.

Edited October 20, 2019 by Gunman

[Nathan2302]

14 minutes ago, Gunman said:

@Nathan2302 Were you doing this in F2P or P2P? F2P has insanely higher ban rates. Also the way Mirror Mode works is one it will connect to the official runescape client making it look like you're using the offical client and not a 3rd party. Two it has a reaction system that can go anywhere from 50-5000 ms (1000ms = 1 second), which people believe help change the timing pattern the script would normally use. Do keep in mind some script won't work with Mirror unless it's set to 50ms also there is a few scripts that don't work with it at all.

Great advice man! Thank you for that. In that case, with all three responses here I will definitely give VIP a go.

I was doing all botting in f2p. Didnt want to waste membership the same way I didnt want to waste VIP here if it wasnt going to work for me, but I will put a character into members and see how it goes with VIP.

As for the scripts that sometimes work and sometimes not work, do they state whether they are compatible with mirror mode usually? Or is it a trial and error?

[Space]

I’ve been using mirror mode since I joined osbot and I’m about to achieve my 5th 99, I’m already over halfway to my 6th 99 as well. A lot of the skills people deem “impossible to bot” I’ve done and managed to remain unbanned and have high stats, >1500 total to be more precise. Definitely give MM a try. It’s dirt cheap for extra protection against bans imo. 

[Gunman]

27 minutes ago, Nathan2302 said:

Great advice man! Thank you for that. In that case, with all three responses here I will definitely give VIP a go.

I was doing all botting in f2p. Didnt want to waste membership the same way I didnt want to waste VIP here if it wasnt going to work for me, but I will put a character into members and see how it goes with VIP.

As for the scripts that sometimes work and sometimes not work, do they state whether they are compatible with mirror mode usually? Or is it a trial and error?

Some do. But normally if you need to escape pkers or if it's a script with prayer flicking or something like that where timing matters then yeah it needs to be 50 ms. The only scripts that legit do not work on Mirror no matter what is I think Frost Caves. So stuff like wood cutting would be fine with higher ms. Good idea btw with starting in f2p. If you can survive f2p then you'll survive p2p.

Edited October 20, 2019 by Gunman

[Nathan2302]

26 minutes ago, Space said:

I’ve been using mirror mode since I joined osbot and I’m about to achieve my 5th 99, I’m already over halfway to my 6th 99 as well. A lot of the skills people deem “impossible to bot” I’ve done and managed to remain unbanned and have high stats, >1500 total to be more precise. Definitely give MM a try. It’s dirt cheap for extra protection against bans imo. 

Do you mind elaborating on how you bot? What works for you and what you would advise against etc? Thank you for the responses

 

24 minutes ago, Gunman said:

Some do. But normally if you need to escape pkers or if it's a script with prayer flicking or something like that where timing matters then yeah it needs to be 50 ms. The only scripts that legit do not work on Mirror no matter what is I think Frost Caves. So stuff like wood cutting would be fine with higher ms. Good idea btw with starting in f2p. If you can survive f2p then you'll survive p2p.

I definitely have not survived f2p lmao. I have 2 out of three bots banned so far. But thank you for the help. Definitely going to try VIP MM later

Scratch that, just checked my third bot. Banned!

Looks to me like my f2p bots get banned within 48 hours of starting.

[Gunman]

10 minutes ago, Nathan2302 said:

Do you mind elaborating on how you bot? What works for you and what you would advise against etc? Thank you for the responses

 

I definitely have not survived f2p lmao. I have 2 out of three bots banned so far. But thank you for the help. Definitely going to try VIP MM later

Scratch that, just checked my third bot. Banned!

Looks to me like my f2p bots get banned within 48 hours of starting.

If you know what you are doing they can be banned with 5-10 minutes or 5-10 weeks.

[Space]

10 minutes ago, Nathan2302 said:

Do you mind elaborating on how you bot? What works for you and what you would advise against etc? Thank you for the responses

I do the same methods as everyone else using premium scripts I’ve just got a lot of experience from being on the botting scene since rsbuddy  and playing rs since 2004. It’s all down to personal preference. Don’t bot for longer than what you would legitimately play. Try to keep account interactions to a minimum that way you don’t develop different patterns. Don’t skill hop constantly. It’s all about preference and what works best for you

[Probability]

48 hours is pretty good for a f2p bot - so well done. My f2p bots are banned in less than 24 hours (I have them do functions for me which work fine for 24 hours of life). By comparison, my p2p bots, which use stealth mode, can last for weeks.

Mirror mode might help a bit but it has problems with some scripts - so execution may be an issue. You should still expect to be banned within a few days of botting in f2p.

I personally think the main advantage of VIP is being able to open up as may bots as you like. Plus being purple looks smexi.

p.s. You might like to look into how to use proxies in order to manage the ban risk.

 

 

Edited October 20, 2019 by Probability

[Nathan2302]

2 hours ago, Probability said:

 

p.s. You might like to look into how to use proxies in order to manage the ban risk.

 

 

That was going to be another query I was going to look into. Do RS have the ability to check IP’s and monitor what’s logged in from there? So they can ban non botted accounts because they share the same IP or even just monitor every account on the IP to quicker remove noticeable new bots?

[Botthestrange]

Here is a copy/paste from another thread I made regarding starting new accounts and botting them.  Keep in mind the screenshot account from the post a while ago is still going strong with much higher stats and no bans so far.  If you have any other questions feel free to let me know.

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Below is a copy/pasta from another post I made about how I get accounts going...

If you have any questions or concerns feel free to let me know.  Below is a screenshot of a current account I have going after 1 month of play and also using scripts to make money to level the skills and keep bonds up on its own.  This specific account I have running on average 7-8 hours a day with about 3 hours of breaks during that time.  I have accounts that are more skill based that can get much higher states than this account, however this one is more combat bast and about 2 weeks of this past month has been just running prekhal undead druids.

 

I am fully aware that the way I go about this is not the most efficient, however I feel its a safe slow & steady route that has prevent me from catching bans and the way I enjoy botting.  

Here is my recommend list  & what I personally use for every skill along with my thoughts.

Keep in mind for any of the normal skills (WC/Fish/Mine/ect) I have tried Explvs AOI from VIP section.  If I dont recommend it, it means its either buggy for that skill or has caught me quick bans for that skill.

Agility: APA Rooftop - i run less than 2 hours at a time very solid.

Construction: Stealth Builder - have only tried a couple of times but had no issues

Cooking: APA AOI Cooker - never had an issue or a ban caused by this even at rouges den

Crafting: Perfect Crafter AOI & ezGems

Farming: AOI Farming - one of the most complex scripts, I use it to get 27 farming with tree runs now for other reqs.

Fishing: Perfect Fisher - Use with no issues from lvl 1-80+, barb fishing is best to level once you can.

Fletching: Explv's AOI - this is a VIP script, this one has been able to do all fletching I have needed it to.

Herblore: Explv's AOI - this is a VIP script, this one has been able to do all fletching I have needed it to.

Hunter: Projects AIO Hunter - one of my favorite scripts of all time, progress mode works like a champ.  Used to get 80+ hunter a few time and to farm chimps.  Use in moderation and have yet to get banned from just this script that im aware of.

Mining: Perfect Miner to grind to 30+ then Perfect Motherload Miner.  I have read good things about Khal Motherlode also but have not personally tried it.  I pretty much only use motherload for 30+ and have gotten accounts to 70+ with no issue.

Runecrafting: Khal AOI Runecrafter hands down.  I also have Perfect Runecrafter, however for those early levels it is just to buggy.

Smithing: Stealth quester to get to 29+ then Explvs AOI.

Theiving: Mollys Theiver, I have not tried others but picked this one based of off reading up on all of them and seeing what other users had to say.  I have used this script with success but still not sure if its the best tbh.

Woodcutting: Perfect Woodcutter - had no issues, has a lot of features for being just a woodcutting script.  Its one of the scripts I will sometimes use on fresh accounts to get some early stats and has yet to catch me a ban.

Slayer: HEI Varrock Museum to get early levels.  Ultimate AOI Slayer - This script is top notch, it does have a reoccuring payment but the developers are very active and have resolved issues same day before.  If you want to level slayer I rec getting to 40 combat and giving this a go.

Combat: I personally use Perfect Fighter, although I would say theirs a slight learning curve to be able to start using it confidently and efficiently.  However I now have well over a dozen configs saved that can farm all sorts of mobs and get me early combat levels.  I have also even used this script as a 'looting' script having it selected to loot specific items in a fight zone but not actually fight anything.

Att/Str/Def: Perfect Fighter, APA Sand Crabs, Stealth Quester for early gains (vamp slayer/waterfall/ect).  A thing to note I personally have not played around with any NMZ quests, Im aware NMZ is a lot faster, however I like to do combat training that also gets me something else like gold or items to use for other skills and does not cost money to run.  I use APA Sand Crabs to help get those early stats up to 40-60ish range.  I like my accounts to be mostly self found and will maybe trade 1mill to them plus a bond and thats it.

Magic: Nights AOI Magic for base leveling/splashing, Legendary Lava Dragons to level and make money from 59+

Range: Perfect Fighter for early levels on mobs until I can either use Perfect Fighter for Cannon also, or if not using cannon I will use CzarRanging Guild (VIP) until level 51+ then I have now switched over to PreKahl Undead Druids for 51+.  Again im not going for the fastest level but ways that level and dont cost me to level. 

Prayer: Rangers Stealth Quester to get early levels then Rangers AOI Prayer this has gotten me to 43+ in under an hour before using the alter at a players house method.

Other: 

• Explv's Walker - Best $1 you will ever spend on OSRS 
• Stealth Quester - best quest bot out there, if you do quests in moderation its very safe, however if possible I do like to babysit this when using it.

Moneymaking: High level fishing/mining use bots for those skills.  But my real prefered method are using Legendary Lava Dragons (roughly 500K+ p/h) if there are not many PK'ers active.  I also really enjoy Prekhal Undead Druids for a consistent 250k+ an hour profit at entry point.  If you are high level combat or range then Prekhal is easily 500k+ also.

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Here is my full post on how I start new accounts typically.

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I typically have 2-3 bots im playing around with at any given time and I do the following to get them going and play them without the instant or 1 week ban.

• I never bot on multiple accounts at once
• I bot off my home residential IP
• I ONLY bot in mirror mode at 50ms delay
• I do tutorial island by hand
• I never start the account off with the super common stuff such as any money makers or fishing or mining.
• I have found that leveling/botting combat along with botting some quests in between has been the best way to start an account without also waiting 2 weeks after completing tutorial island.
• I never bot more than 8 hours per day per account and have my accounts run between 45min-1 hour at a time with 15-20min breaks.
• I try to not ever bot more than 3 quests in a row (f2p).
• Everyone will tell you not to bot f2p but I start all my accounts f2p for a bit and just play them safe/smart then make them members.

This is what a typical f2p start for me will look like that is imo 99% botted....

Day 1:

• Hand do tutorial island
• Walk to trainers near starting area and set arrows to auto equip on pickup
• Use the walking bot to go to GE (best $1 you will ever spend)
• Trade about 200-500k over to bot from a mule.
• Bot walk down to draynor and buy goblin staff and some cabage capes
• Bot walk back to ge and pickup some starter items (lobsters/salmon, runes, staffs, set of iron,mith scim, different amulets, iron arrows, basic range set, axes, pickaxes, fishing net/cage/flyfishing rod, feathers)
• Go afk train magic until 26 or even 35 sometimes 
• Will sometimes also bot WC to like 35ish (From my experience this skill does not get my accounts banned right away like fishing/mining have)

Day 2:

• Start botting a couple of quests starting with vampire slayer, using magic to kill him & easily get attack from 1-20 might do Rome and Juliet after
• Start leveling combat on goblins or fally cows (typically 20/20/20).  I also noticed if you add pickup and bury bones during this time it increases ban rate
• Then go train combat at other places until like 40/40/40 while doing about another 3 random quests.
• I may also start leveling fishing here but never higher than 40 on f2p.  I do NOT fish lobsters or higher on f2p.

Day 3+

• Keep slowly leveling other skills inbetween combat skills.  I also bank EVERYTHING I dont do any dropping.  I also dont level any mining on f2p I have had bad luck with that.
• Also note I am very cautious with leveling runecrafting.  If I do I dont do it for more than 2 hours at a time max and babysit it the entire time.
• Within 1 week I have all f2p quests done except dragon slayer, and 2 others not included on the quest bot.
• Stats typically look like below.... Then I will make a member and just keep at it.

Note: These stats also include doing nearly every f2p quest (botted) and banking every task (fish/wc) and using those mats to level other skills.

60 attack
50-60 str
40 def
40-50 range
35-55 mage depending on how much afk mage training I did (you can bot afk mage training with perfect fighter)
10 Prayer
1-25ish RC
60~ HP
3-50 Crafting (sometimes I level it f2p sometimes I dont)
10 Mining (you get lvl 1-10 mining from f2p quest I do not train this f2p)
29 Smithing (you get 1-29 smithing from f2p quest I do not trian this f2p)
40 fishing
40~ Cooking (I get this purely by cooking all the fish I catch)
40~ Firemaking (I get this by burning the logs I cut, this can be higher but I typically dont burn all the logs I cut)
50 WC

At that point I will typically rest the account (not even login) over the weekend, then on Monday if its not banned I will make it member and continue the journey.  However since I have started this method I have not had an account get banned (yet) on its f2p journey.

When I start member I typically just start doing a bunch of quests starting with Dragon Slayer (the quest bot will only do dragon slayer as a member) then waterfall, then some NMZ quests.  Then I play the member accounts and grind them out until they get banned (typically only 2 day though not permanent).

I dont bot for money or account selling or anything like that.  I just like to bot new accounts to see how far I can get them before they get banned.  Typically when my accounts get banned its because I became impatient with a skill and went to hard for too long on it, or a script I was using messed up hard when I was not babysitting it.

As far as scripts go I pretty much use all of Czars Perfect scripts, along with Perfect Fighter, Sealth Quester, Explv's Walker, at the very least I would recommend these.

For a lot of the skills you can use Explv's AOI  so you dont have to shell out a ton of money on scripts.  I just found the more specific premium scripts have more features and tend to get me banned at a much slower rate.  I also use a few other scripts as well such as Molly's Theiever (not sure if it is better or not then Czars though TBH).  Projects AOI hunter, APA AIO Cooker, APA Sand Crabs, Czar Ranging Guild, and Perfect Motherload Miner, I do use Kahls Runecrafter over czars, I have had issues with czars RC and have not gotten a ban using Kahls (yet). 

 

Anyway, sorry for the novel of scattered info.  If you have any other questions feel free to let me know.

Edited October 20, 2019 by Botthestrange

[Probability]

9 hours ago, Nathan2302 said:

That was going to be another query I was going to look into. Do RS have the ability to check IP’s and monitor what’s logged in from there? So they can ban non botted accounts because they share the same IP or even just monitor every account on the IP to quicker remove noticeable new bots?

No-one really knows. But Juggles has good data that they don't monitor IP's. 

What I do notice is that they can detect a datacentre IP and it will be banned quicker than a residential IP. I also find that if I run several bots on one IP, they will be bannedin 24 hours. Others notably haven't had this issue.

As such, I run my f2p throwaway bots on the cheap datacentre IPs and the p2p accounts I'd like to keep for a while on residential IPs. But I do expect that everything will eventually be banned.

If you're caught botting on any IP, all accounts on it will likely be banned (not certain but is likely).

Edited October 21, 2019 by Probability