OSRS Butlers Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Disputed Member:[member=] Why it should be removed Details: The Users claims that he hasn't shared the account's password with nobody else but me. This can never be proven thus he could be making up all this shit. Furthermore the User has never bothered to change the password on BOTH accounts after the Service. This is Stated in the Global Osbot TOS. Link to topic: Screenshots of the Conversation; http://prntscr.com/ly9feq http://prntscr.com/ly9fhq http://prntscr.com/ly9fqt http://prntscr.com/ly9fu6 http://prntscr.com/ly9fyj http://prntscr.com/ly9g9u ----- From here this is when he contacts me after he posts the neutral ------ http://prntscr.com/ly9gfw http://prntscr.com/ly9gl5 http://prntscr.com/ly9gnn http://prntscr.com/ly9gq9 http://prntscr.com/ly9gt2 http://prntscr.com/ly9gvz http://prntscr.com/ly9gyy http://prntscr.com/ly9h1d http://prntscr.com/ly9h3r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSRS Butlers Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 I’d also Like to add that the User kept on beating about the bush saying they couldn’t have died because the scripts notify him. Additionally he refers to them being put at lumby with missing stats, yet has no proof to support this. The user also blocked me after he questioned me the first time (2-weeks ago) without any reason why or so, as I always replied to when he questioned (I wasn’t even aware that he blocked me until I tried to pm him today after I saw the Neutral). I’m sorry, but staff should not take this attitude lightly. Just the same way as Scammers should be punished, people like @blogans himself should be punished likewise for not only making all this jack shit up, but even so put a mark of someone’s profile as a symbol of threat or damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blogans Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) Disputed member: @OSRS Butlers Thread Link: N/A Explanation: See below Evidence: See below Let me preface by saying, I know this is not going to stick, the feedback will be removed and nothing will be done, but what I am going to show you is facts, whether you take that to heart or not. To start: I've had butler do some services for me before, he was good at them, hence the positive feedback I had always posted. The services mainly consisted of what I call, "Revenant accounts". These being the setups I find optimal for Revenants (75 range, 30 defence, 44 prayer with Salve (ei)). One thing that seemed odd was the fact he posted the accounts exact stats on his public forum page without my consent.. Fast forward a few accounts (which all had their passwords changed straight away), I ordered 2 more accounts with both being the exact same builds. I was told he was going to be the work (Which was later denied but then assured of?) These accounts were done fine, but the passwords were not changed straight away. This is where the "Facts" and "Take it to heart" bit come in. I take the blame for not changing the passwords, which I accept is my fault. However, I needed to contact jagex due to the registered emails bugging out. This was resolved and passwords were changed (After the incident occurred). These accounts were left Idle until I started using them to bot. The passwords were still the same, with no other services done on them via external service workers (No proof because it would literally be impossible to prove). Once I started botting on them, I set them up with the default Revenant package which consists of a blowpipe, some ranging gear with Ava's with darts / scales. The initial plan was to outfit them with BIS, being Craws. This was made clear to butler through my previous services with him talking about my plans. Fast forward a week into botting, I was awoken to both accounts at lumbridge, script being stopped due to insufficient supplies. The blowpipes / scales / darts were missing, nothing else. This "would" be a case of a misclick and skulling, however no deaths were logged and as far as Im aware, its essentially impossible for said client to misclick. (Client isn't named here, but can be named if asked). What made this even more confusing was the fact that the accounts were supposedly dead at lumbridge with reduced prayer / health. I think we can all agree on how death mechanics work, being restored stats and no items if skulled (Except +1). This was obviously the intended setup, but missed out on some details. As I said, messages and pictures will be made clear, but I know for a fact, as the owner of the accounts that only 2 people knew the password before it was changed, one being Butler (and his worker?) and I. Images stating he was working on the accounts with a worker: https://gyazo.com/422ee176f90691cdddfa01b30535d807 Images then stating it was only him working on the accounts: https://gyazo.com/95ce1f9fe9cd3e4b8656a2629b479f2a https://gyazo.com/a8d2e3c333ba82311e31218929f32a2f That alone is a bit odd. Him then telling me to feedback his worker who did the the one account or both?: https://gyazo.com/8ed562f6262a1923abc55f3c286306e4 https://gyazo.com/b894e9157150e7097bdc52e42e907a3f This alone should be grounds for TWC as he has changed his story at least 5 different times. Him stating he has multiple workers while only listing one on his profile: https://gyazo.com/0162d7384d4ef0ca0ef904d993db21a9 The obligatory "You got hacked" https://gyazo.com/894bcada7ddc4fdb3debcb0c6e153495 Latest attempt at resolving, he states he 100% did both accounts while also prior stating multiple times he didn't and to feedback the worker/s who did the accounts? https://gyazo.com/7c71dfafea9ef5c6716ebe0e0ef00c86 "Professionalism" after trying to resolve: https://gyazo.com/fc743482b5e3eb94524494cf8add9479 Ill keep digging through the conversation for more pictures. Edit: I tried talking to him via discord. Apparently I blocked him multiple times when I'm trying to get this resolved? He ended up blocking me and started accusing me of faking it all. Conversation ended up being very abusive for a "Professional" service supplier. Other edit: If this gets looked into, I won't be able to reply straight away. Its midnight as of this edit, I'm working from 6am till 2pm, then going to my fathers for a christmas evening / lunch. There will be a reply, but it wont be immediate. Edited December 22, 2018 by blogans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSRS Butlers Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, blogans said: Disputed member: @OSRS Butlers Thread Link: N/A Explanation: See below Evidence: See below Let me preface by saying, I know this is not going to stick, the feedback will be removed and nothing will be done, but what I am going to show you is facts, whether you take that to heart or not. To start: I've had butler do some services for me before, he was good at them, hence the positive feedback I had always posted. The services mainly consisted of what I call, "Revenant accounts". These being the setups I find optimal for Revenants (75 range, 30 defence, 44 prayer with Salve (ei)). One thing that seemed odd was the fact he posted the accounts exact stats on his public forum page without my consent.. Fast forward a few accounts (which all had their passwords changed straight away), I ordered 2 more accounts with both being the exact same builds. I was told he was going to be the work (Which was later denied but then assured of?) These accounts were done fine, but the passwords were not changed straight away. This is where the "Facts" and "Take it to heart" bit come in. I take the blame for not changing the passwords, which I accept is my fault. However, I needed to contact jagex due to the registered emails bugging out. This was resolved and passwords were changed (After the incident occurred). These accounts were left Idle until I started using them to bot. The passwords were still the same, with no other services done on them via external service workers (No proof because it would literally be impossible to prove). Once I started botting on them, I set them up with the default Revenant package which consists of a blowpipe, some ranging gear with Ava's with darts / scales. The initial plan was to outfit them with BIS, being Craws. This was made clear to butler through my previous services with him talking about my plans. Fast forward a week into botting, I was awoken to both accounts at lumbridge, script being stopped due to insufficient supplies. The blowpipes / scales / darts were missing, nothing else. This "would" be a case of a misclick and skulling, however no deaths were logged and as far as Im aware, its essentially impossible for said client to misclick. (Client isn't named here, but can be named if asked). What made this even more confusing was the fact that the accounts were supposedly dead at lumbridge with reduced prayer / health. I think we can all agree on how death mechanics work, being restored stats and no items if skulled (Except +1). This was obviously the intended setup, but missed out on some details. As I said, messages and pictures will be made clear, but I know for a fact, as the owner of the accounts that only 2 people knew the password before it was changed, one being Butler (and his worker?) and I. Images stating he was working on the accounts with a worker: https://gyazo.com/422ee176f90691cdddfa01b30535d807 Images then stating it was only him working on the accounts: https://gyazo.com/95ce1f9fe9cd3e4b8656a2629b479f2a https://gyazo.com/a8d2e3c333ba82311e31218929f32a2f That alone is a bit odd. Him then telling me to feedback his worker who did the the one account or both?: https://gyazo.com/8ed562f6262a1923abc55f3c286306e4 https://gyazo.com/b894e9157150e7097bdc52e42e907a3f This alone should be grounds for TWC as he has changed his story at least 5 different times. Him stating he has multiple workers while only listing one on his profile: https://gyazo.com/0162d7384d4ef0ca0ef904d993db21a9 The obligatory "You got hacked" https://gyazo.com/894bcada7ddc4fdb3debcb0c6e153495 Latest attempt at resolving, he states he 100% did both accounts while also prior stating multiple times he didn't and to feedback the worker/s who did the accounts? https://gyazo.com/7c71dfafea9ef5c6716ebe0e0ef00c86 "Professionalism" after trying to resolve: https://gyazo.com/fc743482b5e3eb94524494cf8add9479 Ill keep digging through the conversation for more pictures. Edit: I tried talking to him via discord. Apparently I blocked him multiple times when I'm trying to get this resolved? He ended up blocking me and started accusing me of faking it all. Conversation ended up being very abusive for a "Professional" service supplier. Other edit: If this gets looked into, I won't be able to reply straight away. Its midnight as of this edit, I'm working from 6am till 2pm, then going to my fathers for a christmas evening / lunch. There will be a reply, but it wont be immediate. Why are you so fully of lies? 1. You blocked me TWICE. I initially wanted to come speak to you as soon as I saw the Neutral (As Always I've been instantly responsive). I only blocked you once, which was now when I asked you to open a dispute if you're going to keep beating about the bush. 2. I stated the my worker done the first one, and I could easily said that he had to do with your second order too however that is incorrect. After looking at the RuneLite folders, I can confirm that both accounts in question here were serviced by me. So at this point, you trying to mention and take credit using my worker, is only a feedback difference, a feedback which I should be given LOL. 3. It is very hard for me to believe that you changed the first account's password as you said but not the last two. I've always emphasised to my customers even though it's also emphasised in OSBOT's TOS that it is the Buyer's responsibility to change password INSANTLY after service, yet here you are trying to make someone believe that you left the password unchanged for 3 weeks, then all of a sudden you find your character at lumbridge after botting on it at revs, with all its items lost (apparently s clear death) and you're trying to blame me for a hijacking? Not gonna lie, you're pro at making up bullshit excuses. You fucked up, just move on. Edited December 22, 2018 by OSRS Butlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decode Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Theres a reason we have "Change your password after a service" in the global terms of service. Deducing who took the items is just impossible and regardless of what proof both sides provide, its still up in the air. Feedback removed and dispute closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
