yeahtheboyz Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 yes "proof" you wrong. wasnt meant to state an argument just stating the truth fam. chill bruv 4 minutes ago, aloevera said: wauw great argument you got there.. Cant you come up with anything to proof me wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloevera Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, yeahtheboyz said: yes "proof" you wrong. wasnt meant to state an argument just stating the truth fam. chill bruv So you are too impotent to actually make an argument when you disagree with me and instead just start name calling because you, do not like the factual narrative? really bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gearing Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 18 minutes ago, aloevera said: wauw great argument you got there.. Cant you come up with anything to proof me wrong? 55 minutes ago, gearing said: it is fucking hilarious though when retarded americans blame the president for the failure of the whole bureaucracy, he is only the figure in the puppetshow you claim that the president himself who was/ still is a fucking puppet in the shitshow is somehow has the magical power to do harm against the interest of the state apparatus in order to change anything, he is just there so you can blame someone with an actual face, he doesnt make decisions, he approves them MUH OBAMA WAS FUNDING TERRORISTS - your glorious country has been funding terrorists whenever it served its interests, i hope you can fathom this statement IMHO you think too much of the institution of the presidency dear aloevera, let us forgo that right to vote, shall we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeahtheboyz Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 28 minutes ago, aloevera said: So you are too impotent to actually make an argument when you disagree with me and instead just start name calling because you, do not like the factual narrative? really bro? your english is just as bad as trumps presidency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishySkillr Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Obama was definitely a puppet, he did absolutely fk all for America.. inb4 the "obama care" kiddies run in. I don't know the future but Trump doesn't really owe anyone for the position he's gotten as he can pay for everything himself during the election i don't think he will be as much of a puppet as Obama but lets wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloevera Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, gearing said: you claim that the president himself who was/ still is a fucking puppet in the shitshow is somehow has the magical power to do harm against the interest of the state apparatus in order to change anything, he is just there so you can blame someone with an actual face, he doesnt make decisions, he approves them MUH OBAMA WAS FUNDING TERRORISTS - your glorious country has been funding terrorists whenever it served its interests, i hope you can fathom this statement IMHO you think too much of the institution of the presidency dear aloevera, let us forgo that right to vote, shall we? Gearing what you are saying makes absolutely no sense. The president does not have to be a puppet. and not all presidents were bad just because previous administrations were taking, orders from special interest and were corrupted does not mean that it always has to be this way. And of course he should be held responsible just like in every company the boss or CEO should be when things go wrong. He sets up an administration and is the one that is suppose to make the final decisions. Obama funded terrorist that is just a fact. the was a rat and did not care about America and as I stated before many countries use proxy armies Just look at the European union that has been supplying "moderate rebels" in Syria And those same rebels that were given financial and military support joined ISIS. elements in the Nigerian government ( and people within their army) supports Boko Haram America/EU has been training militants from al qaeda Pakistan/Iran/Russia/Turkey has been supporting the sunnis etc.. Maybe you should actually do some investigation instead of typing things based on your emotions I would advice you to read the book from Niccolo machiavelli I honestly believe that Mr Trump is trying and he is making progress And it is not a easy job but that does not mean that he shouldn't be held responsible if his administration screws up Just like the Obama administration failed the world 1 hour ago, yeahtheboyz said: yes "proof" you wrong. wasnt meant to state an argument just stating the truth fam. chill bruv 24 minutes ago, yeahtheboyz said: your english is just as bad as trumps presidency Please read your own grammar before you start judging mine "fam", "bruv" "wasnt" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearing Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, aloevera said: blablala i do not/ am unable to debate with believers you embody everything that is wrong with nowadays' democracy this is politics and you make religion out of it Edited June 14, 2017 by gearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloevera Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 18 minutes ago, gearing said: i do not/ am unable to debate with believers you embody everything that is wrong with nowadays' democracy this is politics and you make religion out of it I have no Idea how you make religion out of what i said.. Please explain that part And your way of thinking is exactly how the people that are destroying this world want you to think "Every president has to be corrupted nothing can be changed" so what is the point of even trying right? Your mind set on this is so wrong and not every one wants to be reminded as the generation that bend over to government And gave away all their freedom because "everyone is just a puppet and nothing can be changed" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearing Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, aloevera said: I have no Idea how you make religion out of what i said.. Please explain that part And your way of thinking is exactly how the people that are destroying this world want you to think "Every president has to be corrupted nothing can be changed" so what is the point of even trying right? Your mind set on this is so wrong and not every one wants to be reminded as the generation that bend over to government And gave away all their freedom because "everyone is just a puppet and nothing can be changed" please do forgo your naivite and think of government as a complex system the president is not a superhero BUT a mere fucking cog in the system, he doesnt shape an era he only coins it you are giving the president an imaginary skillset that works in your favour if he is to your liking and the other way around if is not to your liking then trying to justify it with false reasoning hence i stated i dont debate with believers Edited June 14, 2017 by gearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloevera Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, gearing said: please do forgo your naivite and think of government as a complex system the president is not a superhero BUT a mere fucking cog in the system, he doesnt shape an era he only coins it you are giving the president an imaginary skillset that works in your favour if he is to your liking and the other way around if is not to your liking then trying to justify it with false reasoning hence i stated i dont debate with believers You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A democratic government is made complex so that it wont turn into a dictatorship. his Administration is not a "cog in the system" but is highly capable to improve or make era's worse It can make huge differences and the president is the one who makes the final decisions on those proposals by signing them into law. and I have no idea what you mean by: "if he is to your liking and the other way around if is not to your liking then trying to justify it with false reasoning" Could you please retype it so that it makes any sense? also I still don't know what you mean by "I do not debate with believers" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearing Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, aloevera said: You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. A democratic government is made complex so that it wont turn into a dictatorship. his Administration is not a "cog in the system" but is highly capable to improve or make era's worse It can make huge differences and the president is the one who makes the final decisions on those proposals by signing them into law. and I have no idea what you mean by: "if he is to your liking and the other way around if is not to your liking then trying to justify it with false reasoning" Could you please retype it so that it makes any sense? also I still don't know what you mean by "I do not debate with believers" you are clearly a believer who thinks the president has the will and power to make a difference rofl you are sold end of sentence Edited June 14, 2017 by gearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloevera Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, gearing said: you are clearly a believer who thinks the president has the will and power to make a difference rofl you are sold end of sentence So far that he has been in office: There is an Economic confidence boost Purposed a 5 year ban on lobbying after leaving the government Withdraw from the TPP Improved Foreign relationships Created many jobs I believe 600k+ in his first 100 days eased the relationship with Russia Actually did effort to make peace between Israel & Palestine (still in progress hopefully it will succeed) sided with president A. Fattah el-Sisi against the Muslim brotherhood ( terrorist supporters ) instead of supporting them as the previous Administration did. Lobbied a lift on sanctions that were placed on American companies that wanted to export certain products to China And his Administration is still in its first year so it is working on a lot behind the scenes And there are so many more things So far he is doing a good job, but that does not mean that he shouldn't be hold responsible when his administration screws up. Can you give me any examples of why you believe that He does not have the will and power to make a difference or are you just typing out of emotions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearing Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, aloevera said: So far that he has been in office: There is an Economic confidence boost Purposed a 5 year ban on lobbying after leaving the government Withdraw from the TPP Improved Foreign relationships Created many jobs I believe 600k+ in his first 100 days eased the relationship with Russia Actually did effort to make peace between Israel & Palestine (still in progress hopefully it will succeed) sided with president A. Fattah el-Sisi against the Muslim brotherhood ( terrorist supporters ) instead of supporting them as the previous Administration did. Lobbied a lift on sanctions that were placed on American companies that wanted to export certain products to China And his Administration is still in its first year so it is working on a lot behind the scenes And there are so many more things So far he is doing a good job, but that does not mean that he shouldn't be hold responsible when his administration screws up. Can you give me any examples of why you believe that He does not have the will and power to make a difference or are you just typing out of emotions? this is not his fucking merit but his administration's Actually did effort to make peace between Israel & Palestine (still in progress hopefully it will succeed) i shed a tear of joy here rofl this one shows your naivite you are the one typing out emotions because you think things are going the good direction and you want to say thanks to someone eg trump now go ahead and say thanks to the dept. clerks who made these things possible rofl let us put an end to this; I wish you good luck with your endeavours and I wish you the best with your pseudo-political studies but once you have the time and / or money to attend an insitution where you can acquire skills which will help you to filter bullshit in a political sense please do and maybe someday we can continue using a shared language and background you, as things stand now is a cheerful (overzealous maybe) layman entitled to his opinion BUT in all seriousness; dig deeper Edited June 14, 2017 by gearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloevera Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, gearing said: this is not his fucking merit but his administration's Actually did effort to make peace between Israel & Palestine (still in progress hopefully it will succeed) i shed a tear of joy here rofl this one shows your naivite you are the one typing out emotions because you think things are going the good direction and you want to say thanks to someone eg trump now go ahead and say thanks to the dept. clerks who made these things possible rofl let us put an end to this; I wish you good luck with your endeavours and I wish you the best with your pseudo-political studies but once you have the time and / or money to attend an insitution where you can acquire skills which will help you to filter bullshit please do and maybe someday we can continue you, as things stand now is a cheerful layman entitled to his opinion BUT in all seriousness; dig deeper You are the one typing out of emotions when you disagree with me on something and can not come up with any facts to proof me wrong So you just start typing bullshit, rofl, endeavours, pseudo-political etc. Just admit that you don't know anything about Geopolitics That is why you rather type rubbish and insults than actually facts to proof me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...