RoomScape Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) I've been seeing this more so recently than before and it's honestly annoying. Anyone posts a thread and everyone replies saying that they can MM. It's getting a bit ridiculous. I'm pretty sure there was a rule against MM advertising in the past. If not, then it was on another forum that desperately needs to be applied to here. More people reply to a given thread requesting to MM than actual buyers/sellers. Secondly, it's against the rules for a MM to leave FB after a trade stating that they were the MM for the trade. Other sites allow this but Osbot doesn't and I can understand the reasoning behind it so i'm ok with it. However, there are a couple of MMs that either don't know about this rule or don't care and leave FB regardless. This needs to be addressed as it's currently considered FB farming. Lastly, I find it pretty crazy that there are stricter requirements to get a verified service or verified transactor than it is to get a verified middleman rank. This needs to be changed as a MM should be one of the most trusted users on the site. You need to know that your MM has proven himself to be knowledgeable and trustworthy. It's sad that it's the easiest of the three ranks to get. I think all of the above are fair and need to be addressed. The MMs who left FB should be deleted as that's FB that should not have been left to begin with. Any MM who is that ignorant of the rules should be reevaluated also. Just my two cents. ---------- Edit:@ez11 has made a valid point. I think I suggested this in the past and it was killed real quick and some people said that I only wanted this because I am the only one who would be a mm but that's irrelevant. Due to how easy it is to get fb from essentially farming fb and possibly even getting fake fb, there needs to be a system in place to monitor MM and their fb. Much like services, all MM requests must be placed on their thread with documentation first. To be a verified MM, you would have to post all of your MM vouches on a thread - it's hectic currently as there's too many to count going through fb page after page. Something along those lines. 3 minutes ago, ez11 said: My suggestions would be: not allowing to give feedback for free MMing, having to say how much value the MM had access to and/or seperating MM feedback (if that is even possible. It would probably be the best to have seperate FB for buying/selling gold/accs,MM, Services +Others) I believe you should get fb for doing a free MM, but it needs to be above a certain $$ value and that needs to be proven. Anyone who receives fb and doesn't/can't prove the trade value should have their fb removed and be infracted for fb fraud. Edited April 16, 2017 by RoomScape 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonite3000 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, RoomScape said: I've been seeing this more so recently than before and it's honestly annoying. Anyone posts a thread and everyone replies saying that they can MM. It's getting a bit ridiculous. I'm pretty sure there was a rule against MM advertising in the past. If not, then it was on another forum that desperately needs to be applied to here. More people reply to a given thread requesting to MM than actual buyers/sellers. Secondly, it's against the rules for a MM to leave FB after a trade stating that they were the MM for the trade. Other sites allow this but Osbot doesn't and I can understand the reasoning behind it so i'm ok with it. However, there are a couple of MMs that either don't know about this rule or don't care and leave FB regardless. This needs to be addressed as it's currently considered FB farming. Lastly, I find it pretty crazy that there are stricter requirements to get a verified service or verified transactor than it is to get a verified middleman rank. This needs to be changed as a MM should be one of the most trusted users on the site. You need to know that your MM has proven himself to be knowledgeable and trustworthy. It's sad that it's the easiest of the three ranks to get. I think all of the above are fair and need to be addressed. The MMs who left FB should be deleted as that's FB that should not have been left to begin with. Any MM who is that ignorant of the rules should be reevaluated also. Just my two cents. I agree with everything said! i have seen it plox fix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 it (at least) used to be a rule here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltazar Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Big support of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoomScape Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Asuna said: it (at least) used to be a rule here. At least i'm not crazy. I know I read the rules so I know I definitely read it somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Btw I also support the return of the rule. I couldn't find it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerker Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I'm not sure why you find it wrong that people offer their service to MM on the thread in question. It allows both seller and buyer to see middleman offers all in one place/thread. Simplifies the search for a middleman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoomScape Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Zerker said: I'm not sure why you find it wrong that people offer their service to MM on the thread in question. It allows both seller and buyer to see middleman offers all in one place/thread. Simplifies the search for a middleman. Not sure if you're trolling or just trying to act stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerker Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 1 hour ago, RoomScape said: Not sure if you're trolling or just trying to act stupid. Yes because giving a valid reason to what happens and not being an egotistical piece of shit is trying to be stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoomScape Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Zerker said: Yes because giving a valid reason to what happens and not being an egotistical piece of shit is trying to be stupid. Because they don't know what a middleman is, right? I'm sure the majority of people on this forum doesn't know what a MM is as it's a foreign concept that's new to these forums. Alao, I didn't ask for a reason as to why they did that. I figured that out all by myself. Edited April 15, 2017 by RoomScape 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDM Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Agreed, if they need a mm they would go to the mm section of the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Basically OP worked for his rank and it's being devalued but people don't care enough and will use trusted users to MM, I agree with Zerker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Your first point, I believe it's not covered in current rules but personally think we could rethink it. I don't see any immediate harm in people posting offering their MM service, however. Your second point, if you see it, post in the false feedback section and we will address it asap. Your third point, MM's get 2 feedback per transaction but also handle double the amount in the process, so I personally think the current requirements make sense and are stricter, but we can look into it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Kala Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Do middle man get a percentage cut or an amount for every MM service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
