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  1. The forum has finished upgrading. Sorry for the delay, there were some issues with getting the new theme to work. Over the next week I'll be dedicating some time to restoring forum features and fixing miscellaneous bugs. Please give your feedback below! -The OSBot Staff
    29 points
  2. The following things are missing/ need re added after updating to ipb 4.1 The following ipb 4.1 plugins Secondary Group Images (free ipb marketplace) Remove Main Category Title( free ipb marketplace) Group Color on User Link(webflake) New Members Message (webflake) Who Was Online Username Minimum Length (if you do not add it users can create 1-3 letter names dono if you want that/unless they have patchd in last ipb 4update) optional plugins Custom User Title (i cant remember if sponsor where allowed to change user title of not but thought id mention it The following skin edits add feedback link to user profile Before pic (EDIT ALLOWED IMAGES TO .PNG ASWELL PLEASE) in acp after pic added images to bottom as .png are not embeding atm. Also you could edit the banner again the old osbot orange one was pretty cool compared to standard animate 4.1 Heres a few optional banners you could use (attached to bottom) https://i.gyazo.com/95d6019135ba1cbea4603836d802af24.png Ill let you know when i remember any others
    4 points
  3. Sorry to hear but we just switched to a IPB4 so there are a lot of things that are needed to fix, the forum is brought back online to be able to post but meanwhile staff is fixing the kinks
    3 points
  4. We are aware of both of these. I will be adding secondary group icons tomorrow, and fixing the donor ranks.
    3 points
  5. NEW! Added Gemstone Crab! 81 Hours at Cows Brutal Black Dragon support Sulphur Nagua support Blue Dragon 99 ranged 99 Ranged at Gemstone Crab 81 Range F2p Safespotting Hill Giants Hotkey List // F1 = set cannon tile // F2 = hide paint // F3 = Set afk tile // F4 = reset afk tile // F6 = Set safespot tile // F7 = activate tile selector // F8 = Reset tile selector // F9 and F10 used by the client, EDIT: will re-assign as they are no longer used by client // F11 = Set breaks tile // F12 = Reset breaks tile User Interface Banking Tab Demo (handles everything with banking) You can copy inventory (to avoid adding individual items...), you can insert item names which have Auto-Fill (for you lazy folk!) and you can choose whether to block an item and avoid depositing it in bank, ideal for runes and ammo. Looting Tab Demo (From looting to alchemy, noted/stackable items too) You can choose whether to alch an item after looting it simply by enabling a checkbox, with a visual representation. All items are saved upon exiting the bot, for your convenience! Tasking Demo (Not to be confused with sequence mode, this is an individual task for leveling) You can set stop conditions, for example to stop the bot after looting a visage, you can have a leveling streak by changing attack styles and training all combat stats, you can have windows alert bubbles when an event occurs and an expansive layout for misc. options! Prayer Flick Demo (Just example, I made it faster after recording this GIF) There are two settings: Safe mode and efficient mode, this is safe mode: Fight Bounds Demo Allows you to setup the fight bounds easily! Simplified NPC chooser Either choose nearby (local) NPCs or enter an NPC name to find the nearest fight location! Simple interface, just click! Level Task Switch Demo (Switching to attack combat style after getting 5 defence) You can choose how often to keep levels together! e.g. switch styles every 3 levels Cannon Demo (Cannon is still experimental, beta mode!) Choose to kill npcs with a cannon, recharges at a random revolution after around 20-24 hits to make sure the cannon never goes empty too! Results Caged Ogres: How does this bot know where to find NPCs? This bot will find far-away npcs by simply typing the NPC name. All NPCs in the game, including their spawn points have been documented, the bot knows where they are. You can type 'Hill giant' while your account is in Lumbridge, and the bot will find it's way to the edgeville dungeon Hill giants area! Here is a visual representation of the spawn system in action (this is just a visual tool, map mode is not added due to it requiring too much CPU) Fight Area Example (How the bot searches for the npc 'Wolf') Walking System The script has 2 main walking options which have distinctive effects on the script. The walking system is basically a map with points and connections linking each point. It tells the script where to go, and decides the routes to take when walking to fightzones. Walking system 1 This uses a custom walking API written by myself and is constantly being updated as new fightzones are added. Pros: - Updates are instant, no waiting times - More fightzones are supported Cons: - Sometimes if an object is altered, the changes are not instant - Restarting the script too many times requires loading this webwalker each time which adds unnecessary memory (there is no way to make it only load at client startup since I don't control the client) Walking system 2 This is the default OSBot webwalking API - it is relatively new and very stable since the developers have built it, but is currently lacking certain fightzones (e.g. stronghold) and other high level requirement zones. It is perfect for normal walking (no object interactions or stairs, entrances etc) and never fails. Pros: - Stable, works perfect for normal walking - All scripters are giving code to improve the client webwalker - More efficient when restarting the script since it is loaded upon client start Cons: - No stronghold support yet - Some new/rare fightzones not supported yet - If there is a game-breaking update or an unsupported fightzone, it may take some time to add/repair (less than 24 hours usually) So which system should I choose? Whichever one suits your chosen fightzone best! There really shouldn't be any problems - the sole purpose of these options are for backup and emergency purposes, if the script ever messes up there is always the next option to select. Note: If the script ever fails, there will be immediate updates to fix the walking systems! Script Queue/Bot Manager: Script ID is 758, and the parameters will be the profile name that you saved in the fighter setup! Bug Report templates: New feature request - What is the new feature - Basic description of what the script should do - Basic actions for the script: 'Use item on item' etc. For when the script gets stuck on a tile (or continuous loop): - Which exact tile does the script get stuck on? (exact tile, not 'near the draynor village') - Plugin or normal script? - Did you try all 3 walking options? Script has a logic bug (e.g. dies while safespotting) or (cannon mode doesn't pickup arrows) - What is the bug - How did you make the bug happen - (optional) recommendation for the bug, e.g. 'make the script walk back' or something - Tried client restart? - Normal script or a plugin? - Which exact setup options are enabled? Afk mode, cannon mode, etc etc.
    2 points
  6. Want to buy with OSGP? Contact me on Discord! Detailed feature list: - Multiple modes: Varrock - Walk to sawmill and bank Varrock - Walk sawmill / Varrock teleport (tablet) Varrock - Walk sawmill / Varrock telkeport (spell) Woodcutting guild - Banks for logs Woodcutting guild - Chop logs Castle wars - Balloon method / Ring of dueling Castle wars - Ring of elements / Ring of dueling POH butler mode Castle Wars - House teleport (Tab OR Spell) / Ring of dueling POH butler mode Camelot PVP - House teleport (Tab OR Spell) / Camelot teleport (Tab or Spell) - Potion support - Normal butler / Demon butler - CLI support for goldfarmers Custom Breakmanager: - Setup Bot and break times - Randomize your break times - Stop script on certain conditions (Stop on first break, Stop after X amount of minutes, Stop when skill level is reached) - Worldhopping - Crucial part to botting in 2023! Script queueing: - Support queueing multiple script in a row - All Khal scripts support flawless transitions in between scripts - Start creating your acc in a few clicks from scratch to multiple 99's - Flawless CLI support - Learn more here: How to use CLI parameters: - Example Usage: -script 463:ScriptFile.BreakFile.DiscordFile SAVEFILE = Saved Filename BREAKFILE = Breakmanager Filename - SAVEFILE: Save file can be created in the GUI. Navigate to the tab you want to run and press "Save As CLI file". Please choose your filename wisely (No special characters) - BREAKFILE (Optional): Breakfile can also be create in the GUI, set the breaksettings you wish to use and press "Save new CLI BreakFile". Please choose your filename wisely (No special characters) - Final form (Note that with some bot manager you do not need to specify '-script 844'): -script 844:TaskList1.4515breaks (With breaks) -script 844:TaskList1.4515breaks.discord1 (With breaks & discord) -script 844:TaskList1..discord1 (NO breaks & discord)
    2 points
  7. Ability to set custom Magic and Ranged armour sets ✓ No limits on Kills per trip ✓ Using a mix of user inputs and built-in logic, the script will determine if you have enough supplies for another kill without banking. Options to decide how much food you’re like to take into the next fight as a minimum. Customisable Stop Conditions Stop after 'x' kills Stop after 'x' profit Stop after 'x' runtime Stop after 'x' consecutive deaths Efficient Zulrah Fight Executor ✓ Knows what have, is and will happen Longrange mode, gain defence XP passively with no time loss ✓ Multiple Travel Routines Zul-Andra teleport scrolls VIA Clan Wars ✓ Zul-Andra Teleports VIA PoH ✓ Charter Travel ✓ Caterby charter [via Camelot teleports] Fairy Rings ✓ Ability to select staff to use or not use one at all for fairy rings ✓ Summer Pie Support (72+ Agility recommended) ✓ Fairy ring via Slayer Ring ✓ Fairy ring via House Teleport ✓ Ornate pool support ✓ Jewellery box Support ✓ Mounted Glory Support ✓ Construction Cape Support ✓ Ability to select Magic Only ✓ Changes Rotations and Phases for the best possible fight experience. No need to quest for Ava’s or Level range. Swaps prayers & equipment efficiently ✓ Option to use quick switch mode, removes mouse travel time for even faster switching Prayer Flicking on Jad Phases ✓ Supports Raids Prayers ✓ 55 Prayer ✓ 74 Prayer ✓ 77 Prayer ✓ Options to Dynamically pray against Snakelings when Zulrah is not focused on player. ✓ Calculates: Total loot value ✓ Total cost of supplies used ✓ Profit after costs ✓ Ability to sell all your loot when you run out of supplies ✓ Ability to top up your supplies if you run out with auto-exchange ✓ Death-walking ✓ Safe death boss Rechargeable item support Trident of Seas ✓ Trident of Swamp ✓ Blowpipe ✓ Dynamically detects darts used (Must start with darts inside the blowpipe for it to work!) Serpentine Helm ✓ Ring of suffering ✓ Barrows Repairing ✓ Using Lumbridge teleports or the Home teleport, the script will withdraw coins, travel to Bob and repair your armour then continue to run. Potion Decanting ✓ Efficiently decants all types of potions allowing FruityZulrah to run for longer. Inventory Organising ✓ Organises your inventory to minimise mouse movement, increasing time spent elsewhere. Combo eating Karambwams ✓ Will combo eat karambwams to help prevent death from Zulrah and Snakelings stacks Supports blowpipe special attack ✓ Uses the Blowpipe special attack to help replenish HP Multiple stat boosts supported Prayer ✓ Super Restore ✓ Magic ✓ Ranging ✓ Bastion ✓ Stamina ✓ Anti-venom+ ✓ Imbued Heart ✓ Supports Lunars ‘Cure Me’ spell to cure Venom ✓ Requires: 1 2 2 Ability to use rune pouch Level 71 Magic Lunars Quest Ideal for Ironman accounts with no access to anti-venom+ Supports Lunars Vengeance spell ✓ Requires: 2 4 10 Perfectly times vengeance casts to Magic Phase ranged attacks for best results. Ability to use rune pouch Level 94 Magic World hopping support ✓ Options to hop world between x and x minutes. will randomly select a time every hop. Ability to skip rotations by Hopping worlds Ability to decide on your own custom world list or just to hop to any P2P world Grand Exchange Add-on ✓ Add-on script for free Save/load buy/sell presets Ability to dump all zulrah loot in 2 clicks Command Line Support ✓ Start the script on multiple accounts with a single click Script ID - 903 Command: -script "903:profile=Test hours_limit=10 kills_limit=5 deaths_limit=5 profit_limit=1m" profile = saved profile name, if you've been using CLI to run the script, this will need to be updated to suit. hours_limit = Complete after 'x' run hours. kills_limit = Complete after 'x' zulrah kills deaths_limit = Complete after 'x' deaths. profit_limit = Complete after 'x' accumulated profit Pro-active calculations ✓ Calculates next mouse position for next action whilst first action is being performed Asynchronous actions ✓ Can perform multiple tasks at once saving time Banks Pet drops ✓ Loot table ✓ http://fruityscripts.com/zulrah/loot/ Displays total loot as well as a live feed of drops Hiscores ✓ http://fruityscripts.com/zulrah/hiscores/ Compare and compete against other users Dynamic Signatures ✓ Show off your gains with FruityZulrah url: http://fruityscripts.com/zulrah/signature/signature.php?username={USERNAME} Replace {USERNAME} with your username http://fruityscripts.com/zulrah/signature/signature.php Notifications Get Notifications for: Valuable drops ✓ Deaths ✓ On Exit ✓ Timely Data dumps (GP, GP/HR, Kills, Kills/HR, Deaths, Runtime) ✓ Types of Notifications Email ✓ Discord ~ Desktop ✓ ✓ Implemented into the script ~ Work in progress View a collection of Screenshots posted by FruityZulrah users showing their progress with the script. Watch a collection of FruityZulrah videos below If you have a video you'd like to be added to the Playlist, send me a pm with a link. Videos must of course include the FruityZulrah script. If you wish to purchase FruityZulrah VIA PayPal, please follow the store link below: If you'd like to purchase FruityZulrah using OSRS GP, SEND ME A PM and i can give you my current $$:GP Rates! Discord Community: https://discord.gg/WzXRk2bWTV Trial bot has been implemented (100 post count required if you're not VIP/Sponsor!) @fruityscripts on Discord
    2 points
  8. PPOSB - AIO Hunter Brand new trapping system just released in 2024! *ChatGPT Supported via AltChat* https://www.pposb.org/ ***Black chinchompas and Black salamanders have been added back*** Supports the completion of Varrock Museum & Eagle's Peak OR CLICK HERE TO PAY WITH 07 GOLD! The script has been completely rewritten from the ground up! Enjoy the all new v2 of the script JOIN THE DISCORD CHAT FOR QUESTIONS/ SUPPORT/ CHATTING/ UPDATES! New GUI: Features: Click Here Current functioning hunter tasks: (green - complete || yellow - started || red - incomplete) Screenshots: Progressive Leveling: 1-19 --> Crimson swift 19-43 --> Tropical wagtail 43-63 --> Falconry 63+ --> Red chinchompas Updates How to setup Dynamic Signatures Report a bug CLI Support - The script now supports starting up with CLI. The commands are given below. Please put in ALL values (true or false) for CLI to work properly. Make sure they are lowercase values, and they are each separated with an underscore. The script ID for the hunter bot is 677. Parameters: EnableProgression_EnableVarrockMuseum_EnableEaglesPeak_EnableGrandExchange Example: -script 677:true_true_false_true ***Don't forget to check out some of my other scripts!*** OSRS Script Factory Click here to view thread LEAVE A LIKE A COMMENT FOR A TRIAL The script is not intended for Ironman accounts. It still works for Ironman accounts, but you must have all equipment, gear, and items.
    2 points
  9. It might be interesting to setup a staging/development server for you to test on, it would prevent downtime and/or a buggy site in the future
    2 points
  10. I think he means on the posts. @gearing we're still in the process of adding most of the hooks we had on IPB3, thanks for suggesting this. We'll look into adding it again.
    2 points
  11. OSRS prices generally range from 1.15-1.3/m, it hasn't been down to $1/m since the release of raids, just a heads up.
    2 points
  12. Okay, I'll turn the forums offline until every little detail is perfected.
    2 points
  13. - I fok horses. -- Pardon? - Yes paarden.
    2 points
  14. This is an AIO (All-in-one) bot that has almost every thieving style except blackjack, ask for a free trial by liking thread or making a post! Vyres and elves are now supported! Both can make solid profit per hour, decent passive income! BIG THANK YOU TO ALL OUR SUPPORTERS! WE ARE THE MOST SOLD THIEVING BOT IN OSBOT HISTORY. MOST REPLIES, MOST USERS, LONGEST PROGGIES #1 Thiever | Most Overall Sales | Most Total Replies | Most Results | 10+ Years Maintained | 'the intelligent choice' by Czar SUPPORTS VYRES 224M made in a single sitting of 77 hours 1.1B made from elves and vyres!! ELVES SUPPORTED TOO! (NEW) 2.1m/hr, 6 crystals in 7 hrs 99 THIEVING MANY MANY TIMES, 35M EXP IN ONE BOTTING RUN!! 99 thieving in ~43k xp (12 minutes remaining)! Just got 99 proggy! Gratz to @iz0n THIEVING PET AT LVL 22 FROM TEA STALLS 11.5 HOURS, WITH PET TOO!! 610k/hr getting 99s on deadman worlds!
    1 point
  15. Before buying, please ensure you check-out with the correct script. Swapping scripts is not possible. View in store $4.99 for lifetime access Features: All spawns - Supports every multi-crab spawn point both along the south coast of Zeah and Crab Claw Isle All combat styles - Supports Ranged, Magic and Melee combat training. The script will not bank runes of any type Saving GUI - Intuitive, re-sizeable and fully tool tipped GUI (Graphical User Interface) allowing you to tailor the script session to your needs, with configuration saving / loading Human replication - Designed with human simulation in mind - multiple options to replicate human behaviour available in the GUI Setup customiser - Inventory customiser allows you to visually see your trip setup CLI support - The script can be started from the command line All potions - Supports all relevant potion types (including divine potions!), multiple potion types simultaneously and varying potion ratios Healing in a range - Dual slider allows you to specify a range within which to consume food. Exact eat percentages are calculated using a Gaussian distributed generator at run time Healing to full at the bank - When banking, the script will eat up to full hit points to extend trip times Safe breaking - Working alongside the OSBot break manager, the script will walk to safe place approximately two minutes before a break starts to ensure a successful log out Anti-crash - Smart crash detection supports multiple anti-crash modes (chosen in the GUI): Hop worlds if crashed - the script will walk to a safe place and hop worlds until it finds a free one, at which point it will resume training Force attack if crashed - the script will fight back and manually fight pre-spawned sand crabs until the crasher leaves Stop if crashed - the script will walk to a safe place and stop Ammo and Clue looting - Clue scroll and Ammo looting system based on a Gaussian-randomised timing scheme All ammo - Supports all OSRS ammo types and qualities Spec activation - Special attack support for the current weapon to maximise your exp per hour Auto-retaliate toggling - The script will toggle auto-retaliate on if you forget Move mouse outside screen - Option to move the mouse outside the screen while idle, simulating an AFK player switching tabs Refresh delay - Option to add a Gaussian-randomised delay before refreshing the chosen session location, simulating an AFK player's reaction delay Visual Paint and Logger - Optional movable self-generating Paint and Timeout Scrolling Logger show all the information you would need to know about the script and your progress Progress bars - Automatically generated exp progress bars track the combat skills that you are using Web walking - Utilises the OSBot Web alongside a custom local path network to navigate the area. This means the script can be started from anywhere! Safe banking - Custom banking system ensures the script will safely stop if you run out of any configured items Safe stopping - Safely and automatically stops when out of supplies, ammo or runes Dropping - Drops useless/accidentally looted items to prevent inventory and bank clutter All food - Supports pretty much every OSRS food known to man. Seriously - there's too many to list! ... and many more - if you haven't already, trial it! Things to consider before trying/buying: Mirror mode - currently there appear to be some inconsistencies with behaviour between Mirror mode and Stealth Injection meaning the script can behave or stop unexpectedly while running on Mirror. I would urge users to use the script with Stealth Injection to ensure a flawless experience! Since Stealth Injection is widely considered equally 'safe' to mirror mode and comes with a host of other benefits such as lower resource usage, this hopefully shouldn't be a problem. Using breaks - the script supports breaks and will walk to a safe place ready to log out approximately two minutes before a configured break starts. However, upon logging back in, your spot may no longer be open. If you configure the crash mode to be either 'Hop if crashed' (default) or 'Stop if crashed', this will not prove to be a problem. However if using 'Force attack if crashed', the script will attempt to take back the spot by crashing the occupying player and manually attacking spawned sand crabs. Be aware that players have a tendency to report anti-social behaviour such as this! Avoiding bans - while I have done my utmost to make the script move and behave naturally, bans do occasionally happen, albeit rarely. To minimise your chances of receiving a ban, I would strongly suggest reviewing this thread written by the lead content developer of OSBot. If you take on board the advice given in that thread and run sensible botting periods with generous breaks, you should be fine. That being said, please keep in mind that botting is against the Oldschool Runescape game rules, thus your account will never be completely safe and you use this software at your own risk. Setting the script up - I have done my best to make the GUI (Graphical User Interface) as intuitive as possible by making all options as self explanatory as I could, however if you are not sure as to what a particular setting does, you can hover over it for more information. If that doesn't help, just ask on this thread! Web-walking - alongside a network of paths, the script moves around with the OSBot web-walking system, using it when in unknown territory. While it has proven very reliable, there are naturally some areas for which the web-walker may struggle. As a result, prior to starting the script, I would highly recommend manually navigating your player close to the sand crabs bank, however in practice, anywhere on Zeah should be fine. Script trials: I believe that trying a script before buying is paramount. After trying the script, hopefully you will be convinced to get a copy for yourself, but if not you will have gained some precious combat experience! If you're interested in a trial, please follow the instructions on my trials thread which can be found here. Gallery: Start up GUI (Graphical User Interface): Paint (optional, movable and self-generating): User screenshots: Recent Testimonials: Starting from CLI: This script can be started from the command line interface. There is a single parameter, which can take two (and only two) values: 'gui' or 'nogui'. 'gui' will start the script and show the gui, 'nogui' will skip the GUI setup and start the script using your save file as the configuration. To start from CLI with 'nogui', the script requires a valid GUI save file to be present - if you haven't already, start the script manually and configure the GUI to suit your needs. Then hit 'Save configuration' and in future starting from CLI will use these configured settings. The script ID is 886. Example CLI startup: java -jar "osbot 2.4.137.jar" -login apaec:password -bot apaec@example.com:password:1234 -debug 5005 -script 886:nogui
    1 point
  16. Click here to go to the SDN page to add the script. Display: Note: the additional controls are no longer working. I intend to re-create this script, but as two separate scripts to make it easier to update and maintain.
    1 point
  17. This is a fire runecrafter I made to get RC to 44 on my accounts. the ONLY method it uses is the ring of dueling method. Start at castle wars with an even amount of charges on your ring of dueling. Will withdraw talisman/tiara and equip tiara if necessary. Haven't tested with talisman but it should work. Download: http://www.filedropper.com/dfirerunecrafter
    1 point
  18. All through paypal don't mind using a Middleman assuming I give them my trust. I have reputation off site which might mean nothing to you, but do have morals and don't plan on scamming also know how to spot a scammer so don't waste your time. Rate: 1.2 I'll cover Fees
    1 point
  19. Post any issues you may have with the new forum upgrade below. I'll also be looking for feedback on the general design for about the next week. Issues I'm aware of: -Leaderboards not working -SDN page not accessible -Recent Topics not working
    1 point
  20. I am always on the go, I travel with work and visiting the girlfriend at university I have no choice, but I've encountered no problems with my MSI Laptop, no overheating or anything, it's perfect.
    1 point
  21. Katy is there? I am taking a plane right now to sydney
    1 point
  22. Any idea when feedback will be back ?
    1 point
  23. this is my hood you know that right dont disrespect me like that cuh
    1 point
  24. It's in my signature :P, live:osbot.hokage
    1 point
  25. kalista is back in meta?? yeah, most league edits are overedited but coo
    1 point
  26. Over edit, cant even see fight :((
    1 point
  27. Piratebay is imo the best way to go, I don't like those 2983742 ads on my screen that u can't click away immediately sometimes and fuck up ur pc whilst watching online. I've never had any virus from piratebay and recent videos/series are uploaded there very quickly (some aren't that good quality but if u wait a few more days, u can get the newest movies in better quality! Just check the comments on the torrent)
    1 point
  28. When usergroups are fixed/all of the ranks are reset all of the bugs should be fixed, at least I hope
    1 point
  29. this new theme is better for mobile btw
    1 point
  30. everything is boxier and has weird proportions, it's pretty generic now too
    1 point
  31. Well gl on that, maybe do a thread with updates :P
    1 point
  32. since you know that its not gonna be greater than 2b, just cast it to an int.
    1 point
  33. not sure if this is what you're looking for.. cast long to int trade.offer(995, Math.toIntExact(amountToTrade)); this will throw ArithmeticException if overflow (amountToTrade greater than 2,147,483,647)
    1 point
  34. I'm not going to invest too much time in updating the Chatbox, since I'd have to be editing the raw files and not config files. Chatbox service is going down in April/May. I'm looking into mobile detection and the SDN right now. Edit: Recent Topics is having an issue right now. Thanks for reporting
    1 point
  35. Make chatbox order names in Alphabetical always! (Only does it sometimes). Bump button has disappeared. The forums normal size is a bit too big. Looks like it's Zoomed in at 130% Will add more when I see more issues. The forum can look great in no time.
    1 point
  36. Got dem lean scripts eh? This is how I know ya just made up numbers.
    1 point
  37. I don't see why this is a barb fished account? The HP is as high as it should be without barb fishing..
    1 point
  38. looks like everyone is taking your advice and going else where
    1 point
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