Takeoff Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Disputed member: http://osbot.org/forum/user/118993-fearful/ Thread Link: Has been deleted Explanation: I joined Fearful's swapping team, which had a 10m 07 deposit to join. Prior to paying the deposit I asked for specifics on the refund policy as Lebron had posted this thread http://osbot.org/forum/topic/68821-rant-deposit-fees/#entry759492 which I thought made some good points. http://puu.sh/h1uc0/d1503a6d95.png http://puu.sh/h1udd/855a0d5030.png He said the deposit was refundable up to a point, and never specified. He is saying that the thread stated the terms of refunding http://puu.sh/h1ugL/5a584ba798.png While the thread may say the rules now, when I posted on the thread & asked him about it on skype, the thread wasn't edited. This where the dispute begins. http://puu.sh/h1um5/b4a17a8520.png http://puu.sh/h1uUH/60a70d0bc5.png He claims otherwise http://puu.sh/h1urb/9289bc73bb http://puu.sh/h1ut2/ea2316940d.png Asuna suggested that the time I posted on the thread would have been when I was agreeing to the terms. http://puu.sh/h1uN6/9548959ace.png http://prntscr.com/6ouvns which shows that they were discussing it, not necessarily that it was on the thread at that time. I inquired about joining prior to that screen shot, having posted on the thread originally the same day, but hours before the thread was edited, adding him on skype the next morning when I woke up. http://puu.sh/gZzXk/8f3815e661.jpg http://puu.sh/gZzXU/9b2373a294.png I realize this may be hard to judge, because to my knowledge the thread is deleted and it is impossible to see the edited times due to a lack of a necessary plugin I know it is not Fearful's fault swapping ended, this is not about that, just whether or not the deposit should be refunded - regardless of me making it back or not, breaking even in essence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RServiceGeeks Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I agree I worked for Fearful also and I made a 10m deposit which was never returned because he said I had already made over the deposit. So I just let it go and said forget it before I joined the service I was told that the deposit was refundable but once asked for it back was told that it was not due to the fact of making over the deposit; anyways that is just my 2 cents it is kinda like a scam in a way basically they went up 30+ M from the deposits that there employees never got back. Anyways I am not adding to the dispute for I really do not care about the 10m I am simply just saying my part considering I was apart of the team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I placed into TWC, he has 24h to explain himself. After reviewing the whole situation with the Staff-team, we came to: changed his T.O.S. from "You receive your deposit back", to "You won't receive your deposit back if you made profit from swapping, higher than your deposit". He changed the T.O.S after @Takeoff joined. announced his new T.O.S. over Skype, not Osbot. @Takeoff never agreed to the new T.O.S. has to refund @Takeoff the whole deposit, unless can provide proof that @Takeoff agreed to the new T.O.S which were changed after @Takeoff joined. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Is also entitled to a refund, unless the same type of proof listed above for @Takeoff can be provided by 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RServiceGeeks Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Is also entitled to a refund, unless the same type of proof listed above for @Takeoff can be provided by I will take a refund he he wished to give one, if not it shows some of his character. Whenever I joined I was told I would be given it back, then I was told I was not because I had earned more. I am not sure when the T.O.S was changed but I did say "that's fine" after he told me it was stated on the thread that once you make more than the down payment it could not be given back so I responded "fine" under the impression that the T.O.S said "it would not be given back after you made more than the initial downpayment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealSwaps Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Um what do I do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Um what do I do now. Unless you can provide proof that they agreed on osbot to your new terms, you have to pay them back the full deposit fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealSwaps Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Unless you can provide proof that they agreed on osbot to your new terms, you have to pay them back the full deposit fees. Takeoff is banned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealSwaps Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 paid back takeoff (staff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Takeoff is banned... You still have to pay, scamming is scamming and you can't scam a user just because they are banned. paid back takeoff He has also confirmed with me that you repaid him thank you for being cooperative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealSwaps Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 You still have to pay, scamming is scamming and you can't scam a user just because they are banned. He has also confirmed with me that you repaid him thank you for being cooperative. Dont know where easygoldstop is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Dont know where easygoldstop is. It appears he's been offline for a few hours now. Will just have to wait until later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RServiceGeeks Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Fearful has repaid me no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealSwaps Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Paid EasyGoldStop. http://gyazo.com/56ce281f43bb109dcd6106b052508a76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 TWC removed. Thanks for your cooperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
