Ericthecmh Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Why don't they just support Osbot 1 for people who want to use it and Osbot 2 for people who want to use it? Also its not like monthly subs are new http://gyazo.com/8d9b2c58cf323b5a8ffa9f2dd01caa94 so it must mean when it says Base that is the final price of the script right? I'm pretty sure the post right above yours answers your question... Because nobody has the time to keep 2 bots updated. And with the Windows XP argument, if somebody found a security vulnerability for XP tomorrow and exploited it, Microsoft wouldn't bother to fix it. Likewise, if Jagex releases an update to break OSBot 1, the devs won't bother updating it either. Just like there are software that are released that are no longer compatible with XP, the new scripts will not be compatible with OSBot 1. And all this about lifetime support etc etc. Nowhere on OSBot does it say that OSBot promises to support scripts for lifetime. If you honestly believe that scripts would be lifetime, I'm sorry, then you made a mistake when you bought the script. Stop blaming OSBot for the assumptions that you made. I'm looking at Swizzbeat's AIO Fisher. Does the scripter promise lifetime? Nope. Does his thread promise lifetime? Nope. Does the store promise lifetime? Nope. How about Purple's Rooftop? Scripter promise lifetime? Nope. Thread? Nope. Store? Nope. See a pattern? Yes. There isn't any other viable solution. We've already tried easing the transition by promising you guys 30 days of free access to converted scripts, but we can't force scripters to give you access for free now can we. If you think you have a better solution that both sides will like, post it here. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzbeat Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I'm pretty sure the post right above yours answers your question... Because nobody has the time to keep 2 bots updated. And with the Windows XP argument, if somebody found a security vulnerability for XP tomorrow and exploited it, Microsoft wouldn't bother to fix it. Likewise, if Jagex releases an update to break OSBot 1, the devs won't bother updating it either. Just like there are software that are released that are no longer compatible with XP, the new scripts will not be compatible with OSBot 1. And all this about lifetime support etc etc. Nowhere on OSBot does it say that OSBot promises to support scripts for lifetime. If you honestly believe that scripts would be lifetime, I'm sorry, then you made a mistake when you bought the script. Stop blaming OSBot for the assumptions that you made. I'm looking at Swizzbeat's AIO Fisher. Does the scripter promise lifetime? Nope. Does his thread promise lifetime? Nope. Does the store promise lifetime? Nope. How about Purple's Rooftop? Scripter promise lifetime? Nope. Thread? Nope. Store? Nope. See a pattern? Yes. There isn't any other viable solution. We've already tried easing the transition by promising you guys 30 days of free access to converted scripts, but we can't force scripters to give you access for free now can we. If you think you have a better solution that both sides will like, post it here. I hope community isn't angry when I get hit by a bus tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodore Bagwell Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I'm pretty sure the post right above yours answers your question... Because nobody has the time to keep 2 bots updated. And with the Windows XP argument, if somebody found a security vulnerability for XP tomorrow and exploited it, Microsoft wouldn't bother to fix it. Likewise, if Jagex releases an update to break OSBot 1, the devs won't bother updating it either. Just like there are software that are released that are no longer compatible with XP, the new scripts will not be compatible with OSBot 1. And all this about lifetime support etc etc. Nowhere on OSBot does it say that OSBot promises to support scripts for lifetime. If you honestly believe that scripts would be lifetime, I'm sorry, then you made a mistake when you bought the script. Stop blaming OSBot for the assumptions that you made. I'm looking at Swizzbeat's AIO Fisher. Does the scripter promise lifetime? Nope. Does his thread promise lifetime? Nope. Does the store promise lifetime? Nope. How about Purple's Rooftop? Scripter promise lifetime? Nope. Thread? Nope. Store? Nope. See a pattern? Yes. There isn't any other viable solution. We've already tried easing the transition by promising you guys 30 days of free access to converted scripts, but we can't force scripters to give you access for free now can we. If you think you have a better solution that both sides will like, post it here. The difference between this is microsoft did update windows XP for another 2-3 years to give people time to switch over. At the end no one was actually using windows XP anymore. I'm sure if windows XP would be outdated right after they release windows 7/8, people would be complaining about the same which happens here. They get the feeling to be forced into something they actually don't want to pay for. Instead microsoft updated windows xp for a couple of years. In this case osbot 1 will be unavailable in like a week and we are getting forced to directly buy another client we didn't ask for, instead of using it for another 2 years. They did announce osbot 2 like a year ago, but they never told us all osbot 1 scripts won't be converted for free, instead they made an emulator which made us believe we would still be able to use our scripts. Now about the lifetime. You are completely right as there is no such lable on it which says it's lifetime. Now imagine you pay for a software you like. Nowhere is stated the payment is for lifetime, but as theres no monthly fee stated anyware you assume it actually is for a lifetime, do you? If you buy microsoft office, you assume it won't be taken down in 2 months because there is a newer version available, right? Again you don't have to solve this problem, as you (script writers) are getting forced to port over your scripts aswell. In my opinion the only solution would be to give people refunds who just bought a one-time-fee script. In this way the script writers will transfer their scripts, and costumers will be paid as there was NOWHERE stated the one-time-fee will not be available after the release of osbot 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericthecmh Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 The difference between this is microsoft did update windows XP for another 2-3 years to give people time to switch over. At the end no one was actually using windows XP anymore. I'm sure if windows XP would be outdated right after they release windows 7/8, people would be complaining about the same which happens here. They get the feeling to be forced into something they actually don't want to pay for. Instead microsoft updated windows xp for a couple of years. In this case osbot 1 will be unavailable in like a week and we are getting forced to directly buy another client we didn't ask for, instead of using it for another 2 years. They did announce osbot 2 like a year ago, but they never told us all osbot 1 scripts won't be converted for free, instead they made an emulator which made us believe we would still be able to use our scripts. Now about the lifetime. You are completely right as there is no such lable on it which says it's lifetime. Now imagine you pay for a software you like. Nowhere is stated the payment is for lifetime, but as theres no monthly fee stated anyware you assume it actually is for a lifetime, do you? If you buy microsoft office, you assume it won't be taken down in 2 months because there is a newer version available, right? Again you don't have to solve this problem, as you (script writers) are getting forced to port over your scripts aswell. In my opinion the only solution would be to give people refunds who just bought a one-time-fee script. In this way the script writers will transfer their scripts, and costumers will be paid as there was NOWHERE stated the one-time-fee will not be available after the release of osbot 2. Okay, so the developer will keep OSBot 1 up for 2-3 months to let people have time to switch over. Windows XP is a full OS, and it was standard for like 10 years, so of course they'll give people years to move over. Entire companies depended on XP. In our case I think 2-3, maybe 4 months is a suitabel time. And regarding the emulator, actually Laz made a post saying that the emulator would be supported for some time, but eventually we'd move to OSBot 2 only. I remember reading that post because it pissed me off at first (I didn't want to convert my code). And yes, I don't expect my software to be shut down 2 months after it gets release, but 1) unlike office, scripts need to be maintained, and 2) Unlike office, windows doesn't need to be updated for office to work. Because of this, the analogy to office isn't the best. I think a better analogy would be to a car. A car needs to be maintained. If an "update" occurs (eg. the car breaks), you need to fix it. You can buy accessories for the car (analogous to scripts). But if the car blows up, guess what, you don't take the accessories back to the store and be like "I want a refund." You still keep your OSBot 1 scripts, it's just OSBot 1 doesn't work anymore, just like you can keep your accessories, but they're useless without the car. And you don't get to just move your accessories to a new car cause it's a new car, your accessories aren't compatible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cudi Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) I'm pretty sure the post right above yours answers your question... Because nobody has the time to keep 2 bots updated. And with the Windows XP argument, if somebody found a security vulnerability for XP tomorrow and exploited it, Microsoft wouldn't bother to fix it. Likewise, if Jagex releases an update to break OSBot 1, the devs won't bother updating it either. Just like there are software that are released that are no longer compatible with XP, the new scripts will not be compatible with OSBot 1. And all this about lifetime support etc etc. Nowhere on OSBot does it say that OSBot promises to support scripts for lifetime. If you honestly believe that scripts would be lifetime, I'm sorry, then you made a mistake when you bought the script. Stop blaming OSBot for the assumptions that you made. I'm looking at Swizzbeat's AIO Fisher. Does the scripter promise lifetime? Nope. Does his thread promise lifetime? Nope. Does the store promise lifetime? Nope. How about Purple's Rooftop? Scripter promise lifetime? Nope. Thread? Nope. Store? Nope. See a pattern? Yes. There isn't any other viable solution. We've already tried easing the transition by promising you guys 30 days of free access to converted scripts, but we can't force scripters to give you access for free now can we. If you think you have a better solution that both sides will like, post it here. It's just that I joined this forum like a week ago and I have bought about 5 or 4 Premium scripts and even if it was a month sub I would not have even been able to use them for the full time... But as you guys say we will get a month for free I think? Edited June 4, 2014 by Kid Cudi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericthecmh Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 It's just that I joined this forum like a week ago and I have bought about 5 or 4 Premium scripts and even if it was a month sub I would not have even been able to use them for the full time... But as you guys say we will get a month for free I think? Yeah you will get a month free for any scripts that are converted. I'm sorry to hear about your situation, but unfortunately, this is the best plan that we've come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hero of Time Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I hope community isn't angry when I get hit by a bus tomorrow ill miss youu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousek Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 By the way, I have noticed a SIGNIFICANT decrease in bans comparing OSBot 2 to OSBot 1. And that says something. In like 3-4 hours of testing on OSBot 1 I was thrown into a bot world with new accounts. The next day I was banned. Did the exact same thing on OSBot 2 with my converted script for the next 5-6 days, I still haven't been banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzbeat Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 By the way, I have noticed a SIGNIFICANT decrease in bans comparing OSBot 2 to OSBot 1. And that says something. In like 3-4 hours of testing on OSBot 1 I was thrown into a bot world with new accounts. The next day I was banned. Did the exact same thing on OSBot 2 with my converted script for the next 5-6 days, I still haven't been banned. This ^ OSB2 is reworked to the point where everything is coming up to speed with how a human would play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 By the way, I have noticed a SIGNIFICANT decrease in bans comparing OSBot 2 to OSBot 1. And that says something. In like 3-4 hours of testing on OSBot 1 I was thrown into a bot world with new accounts. The next day I was banned. Did the exact same thing on OSBot 2 with my converted script for the next 5-6 days, I still haven't been banned. Good to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 By the way, I have noticed a SIGNIFICANT decrease in bans comparing OSBot 2 to OSBot 1. And that says something. In like 3-4 hours of testing on OSBot 1 I was thrown into a bot world with new accounts. The next day I was banned. Did the exact same thing on OSBot 2 with my converted script for the next 5-6 days, I still haven't been banned. Good to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
