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Is true I was more thinking that buying from Jagex officially, just with a cheaper currency, could be virtually 0 ban rate. Ex if I wanted to 6 month sub an acc I'm playing on that will do very little to no botting and likely wont get banned. Vs if I was farming hard ya I'd just be buying gold to bond for the short term subs.

I meant using a VPN to change location to some country that membership is significantly cheaper in. When I did it before I used a free one.

I think it prob depends on the activity. 4 hours of thieving elves per day is a lot of suffering a player would have to endure. I'd honestly cap aweful activities that people would want to bot at like 1 hour per day. Easy afk things like NMZ can easily be higher. But I'm also wondering how much lower ban rate is on mouse recording vs the others. Obviously you still want to use good botting practices. But if you did everything right years ago they had virtually 0 ban rate. Wondering if thats still the case.

Hey guys. I'm salty at the price increase of yearly sub for my iron. Years ago on a different acc I VPN'd to mexico and did a multi month sub for dirt cheap. Thinking of doing that for my iron but was wondering if anyone's getting banned for it now? I pretty much sign on the dotted line that I accept the risk of getting banned when I break the TOS. But I'd rather not throw my acc away without figuring out if its still safe lmao. Thanks.

Stuff like this worries me, I want to come back and do some mouse recording as I never had bans in the past, but then you are getting bans even with it, so not sure if its worth it. For the accounts you mouse recorded on, did you use other forms of botting on them?

What mouse recorder you using? I've had the itch to get back into it haha. mouse recorders never let me down in the past, 0 bans on my end too. I always used 'macro recorder' as it can add color detection to add failsafes.

Ya I wouldn't do anything meaningful on them. If they were throw always to gold farm you could keep doing it but otherwise id trash them and use them for testing only.

I macro and dont use a bot client but i'm assuming this theory still stands. I limit each session to around 2 hours, or sub 1 hour for 'high ban rate' activities like rooftop agil. And do several sessions per day, with gaps in between. My only ban ever was with my python fletching macro (alternate ahk) that I accidentally ran for like 6 hours overnight. I derped and set the loop amount wrong so that it went super long instead of around 2 hours. I then used it again on another character that had some membership time left and got to like 97 fletching no ban before its membership ended. so I'm assuming the macro is good and it was the session length. And it makes sense. Jag cant thoroughly scan every accounts actions for patterns etc. It would take too much processing power. But if an account is flagged as possibly a bot from a long session of repetitive action, it could be looked into more by stronger detection, and find patterns or something that decides your a bot.

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What do you guys think of membership codes, do they effect ban rate at all or have any other issues? They are cheaper than VPN to mexico subbing or buying gold to bond. But my accounts I'm building arent throw always so I'd like to know if any of you play normally with membership codes. Thanks.

I've always thought that once an acc is banned it gets detected more easily

Also dont bot on an acc thats gotten a ban, scrap it and make a new one. If its gotten a ban before it will get detected way easier.

I wouldn't worry too much about ban waves, my only ban was from accidentally running my fletch macro for 6 hours overnight (I normally do segments of 2 hours ish for everything) and I woke up to the ban. Could using fishy membership codes have increased ban chance? I feel like normal players dont use them haha.

My thought is that they cant deep analyze every player online. It would take waaaaay too much processing power. So they only analyze accounts that are flagged. My only ban has been from when I was making a python fletch script and I accidentally ran it for like 6 hours overnight. I'm convinced I hit a point where the game was like, "ok this guy is sus, lets analyze him more" and then decided my random gen wait times and everything were fake. I've re used this same script again on a diff acc just to see if its a bad script or not and running reasonable amounts of time I've never gotten a ban. so I feel like my accoutns dont get flagged to the point of it looking into them more to notice any patters.

I'm also quite interested in how this could effect ban rates. I do a lot of mouse recording, ahk bots, etc. Currently hardest to detect lowest ban rate things if done right in my opinion. but if they can now detect these things a lot is going to change. I'm wondering if anyone here who knows more about how this stuff works on the technical end has an input as to why or why not the change will matter.

I bought a supposedly ban free proxy. Accounts got locked instantly. Google made me use captchas. Didnt even bother trying to use the accounts after unlocking. I dont recommend these for anything besides suicide botting with an auto unlocker.

Edit- Got help from someone on discord. For any nubs with a similar issue, I forgot to make public class ExampleScript extend Script. Mods can delete if needed. Hey guys, hopefully someone can help. I'm trying to set up for development. Having issues. Override is getting red underlines. I'm a eh programmer and havent used java in a while but I'm noticing the top import is grey in that its not being used, also the method names are grey. Idk if this is actually related to the problem or not tho. I tried to follow the guide, and test code is from the skeleton tutorial in another thread. Thanks for any help.

Thanks for the info guys. I know I don't super need a proxy, but my brother plays legit on our ip and I have a bunch of other acc's so I'd rather try and play it safe now that I'm dabbling with higher risk botting. I got a cheap proxy, if it sucks I'm only down a couple bucks, so we will see. Question tho. I'm having a hard time setting it up on my windows 10 vm. I want to set it up so my whole vm uses the proxy but I cant figure out how to have it work with the login details for the proxy? I cant seem to find any intelligent guides. I've found some stuff on using windows credentials but I cant get it to work right. I want to have my whole vm use the IP so that I can create my accounts on it. Any help would be welcome.

Hey guys. I've been doing some proxy research now that I got a ban on my home ip but I've gotten some mixed info. So cheap proxies all seem to be datacenter proxies. How bad are these? I've heard that your acc usually gets locked. I'm going to try and slower long term make an acc, so lowest ban rate is my goal. For this would no proxy be better than the cheap ones? I'm more doing this as a hobby project so I'd rather not pay a good sum a month for a residential proxy, any cheap alternatives? How are the stupid vpn's like nord vpn. Tons of rs youtubers are sponsored by them, so you would think that theres a lot of players playing legit on them. Making it hard to tell whos a bot and whos not. Anyone tried these?

It depends on youre definition of whats a bot. But it could also be a slightly advanced script. It used image detection to get item and bank locations, and detect the bank booth and bank x to make sure its not going to run around if the world lags (like if it cant see the bank is open it wont click to take stuff out), and it had some randomness functions to make it click around a certain point instead of same spot (so think anywhere on the knife instead of the same spot on the knife), and same for any wait functions. It would be a wait random range, with a chance to be longer to simulate going afk. Which idk if actually helped, it kidna just lowered my xp rate lol. Was for fletching but could do any bank standing task thats similar with minimal work to write a new bot script for it. I put time in to make it easy to make new task scripts using its functions, but idk if it was actually worth the time for that because if its ban rate isnt that good then no point haha. And sorry for double post idk how to get this to go on the other post. what sucks is I dont care about getting the ban that much, I just feel stupid for going too long because now idk if my python bot is a failed project or if I just went too long and would have got caught mouse recording too (which from my tests seems to be stupid low ban rate of done well).

My mouse recording ones lasted to 99 alching and nmz, several acc's no bans. Those I always did like 1-2 hour sessions. This one was bank standing fletching. Lasted a few days, was like 88 fletching, started from low level. Was not a new acc. Ya this one was fletching. my mouse recording to 99 characters were nmz and alch. I thought fletching would have been one of the safer things but I guess not.

So I actually made my own basic bot in python as an experiment to try vs mouse recording. It couldn't do anything overly flashy, just used pixel detection to see the items in the bank to get locations, and to check to make sure its not running around. Lots of random ranges and stuff so it doesnt always click the same spot and times. This acc was experimental and I only got a 1 day anyway. What bugs me is that I hit to let it go 5 like hours last night lol. Which I never did before. So now idk if my bot is bad and just got detected, or if it was because going 5 hours is way too overkill (I always do like 2 hour sessions, 10 hours a day tops). So I cant decide if my bot is just bad because it got a ban and I never have with mouse recording. But I've also never gone 5 hours 1 session, my others would be like 2-3. So idk. Nobody can know for sure but any thoughts? So my main Q's: Do you think my ban was because I went too long and overnight, both taboo? Now that I got a ban on my ip should I get a proxy to do any further testing on? (If my ip is flagged and makes ban rates higher its bad testing)

So my 2 cents. My brothers friend plays rs over 10 hours a day. So to me bot time doesnt matter because theres real players who play more. I would only macro 8-10 hours a day. When my brothers friend is on all day, he looks more bot than me. The issue is new accs are more likely to get banned for botting, and flagged ip. So now mix the two and you have an easy explanation for why you got banned. Jagex has kinda proved that their detection doesnt really work that well. So all they have to go off is that your brand new acc is no lifing on a flagged ip. Prob a bot to them. cuz lets be real theres not much difference between a bot splashing and a player, theres virtually no input so theres no difference. I've always felt like differnet activities are easier/harder to detect. Like macro alching and nmz. They are so afk and done by so many people, how is jag going to tell the difference. Would need some really solid detection to tell the difference between a 1 hour recording and my brothers friend doing nmz for hours on end. And obviously if they can detect the bot client thats a problem. My points are all for undetectable client and methods that go over runelite and stuff. I always play my accounts for a couple days legit skilling quest req's and quests before macroing to get past the new acc window.

I use the one on macrorecorder .com. You may need to adjust the recording settings to get it to not dick out and mess up double clicks and stuff, and you learn how to record with it properly. But it has the ability to go in and add lines of pixel detection and make other edits. So you can add checks so that if something goes wrong the script dies. So for bank standing for example, id just scroll through and every time I pressed spacebar I would paste my pixel detection line to check for the purple color of the banker. If the banker isnt there because I moved from lag or something it will kill the script so the next run I wont run around. And if theres any issues like it didnt record a click or something properly from clicking too fast I can just fix it. I've gotten several 99's multiple acc's no bans.

Hey guys. I've had a lot of success lately with my mouse recording macros, and have kinda maxed all my pvp builds I care about. Because mouse recordings are too limited to do diaries (each diary has a req I cant find an ez way to macro lol, like rc) I decided instead to try some gp farming. So for this I need to make sure I dont screw up muling. So to my knowledge. Get 2 socks proxies. Mule acc is made and used on proxy 1. Bots are made and played on proxy 2. I can then give gold to mule from the bots and then give gold to my normal accounts relatively safely? Is it safe for me to give gold from my normal accs, to my mule, to my bots? I'd trying to not need to spend $ on gold to buy bonds and start doing stuff. Is a waste of money, I dont plan to sell gold, is just to multiply my bank now that I'm not macroing stats. My goal is to not overly suicide 2-4 macro bots. I'm trying to keep ban rate low ish but I expect some bans. Will 4 bots have a noticeable ban rate over 2? I plan to do bank standing money makers, 8+ hours a day on them. For combat and alching I've always done 8+ hours a day no bans but this is more accs that look like bots lol. How much do you guys find playtime prior helps? I've never gotten a ban but all my accs had some playtime before macroing (nmz req's ect usually take a few days). So I'm wondering if doing a bit of crab macroing or something to build up some time will help or if I should just get a few levels to not be level 3 and then go all in for gp. Any other tips? Thanks for any input guys.