Beezmans Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) ok 20m~ in gold was put onto the accts there now saying that the gold was hacked off Disputed member: alain w/decode Thread Link:http://osbot.org/forum/topic/75231-sponsor-40-feedback-incredible-aio-service-team-powerleveling-questing-defenders-barbarian-assault-firecapes-void/page-6 Explanation:17m is missing off the accts i provided Evidence: were disputing how we should handle a 17m missing on the accounts. decode is stating hes out of town till sunday so he wont be posting till then decode also owes me for 25m downpayment 5m/30m has been refunded were disputing over 25m downpayment and 20m in items scammed Edited July 4, 2015 by Beezmans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dex Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Notified @Decode of the report. Could you provide us with any pictures of you transferring the gold to the account and or (a) bank picture(s)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezmans Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 Notified @Decode of the report. Could you provide us with any pictures of you transferring the gold to the account and or (a) bank picture(s)? i can provide a gyazo when im free of proof that i gave the items but were both not arguing that me and him talked over skype and more or less just trying to figure out what i should get back or what he should get back im also gonna pm u something private as i dont want it to be public knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decode Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 As i've said in my other thread, picture i will be posting will have to wait till sunday. However, beezmans has previously been compromised this week (He told me) and he also broke the t.o.s and had logged on the account after ordering from us and agreeing to the t.o.s. I will provide picture proof to back up what i've said on sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezmans Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 decodes post http://gyazo.com/10c64df5771fbe0625385b1d35aa644a my counter arguments i never stated my computer was compromised i stated that another low feedback worker has had issues and there may be a possibility of skype being compromised [dex i pmd you details about this] i also never logged on the account after the order started till the hack had occured and i was informed the items were gone.[i have changed both accounts info for time being and one acct will be started by another worker as i cant wait for resolve on this] i did not acuse alain of taking the items they were the ones who accused and approached me first of taking the items. also i am asking dex for you to use your authority to get atleast 25m refund off decode and make him get on a computer so i can pick that up as the orde was never started i should be getting that back today [ decode has a co-owner which he states wont refund his orders which makes 0 since] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decode Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Also, regarding his payment of 25m for this job. Considering he had logged on the account and broke the t.o.s he agreed to. According to the first term in my term of services i can cancel his order without a refund. Regarding the 9m payment for the other job we agreed we'd be paid 4m for the part done and 5m will be returned to beezmans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezmans Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) http://gyazo.com/c7dbbcc0436aed2e62390390a1dc8698 - proof of them making first accusation http://gyazo.com/9d7b10f2f118c330edc408bf241e8396 proof they hadnt started order so i deserve a 25m refund on that order asap [had to remove rsn in paint] http://gyazo.com/32197791c2de7d930f046fe6285a6f84-17m in believed items lost if more gyazos are needed from my end feel free to tell me 2 of the above gyazos dont work for some reason so i reposted alot of the convo Edited July 3, 2015 by Beezmans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decode Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 These are the skype conversations between me and beezmans. Showing him admitting to logging on the account before as well as being compromised earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain w Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 As i am the worker for this service i will respond for Decode on his behalf as i have spoken to him. This is my side of the story and not Decode please can mods take this into fact. I was working two jobs for Beezmans, one being getting 70 defence and a quest the other getting a low level account to stats of 70 / 80 / 26. For training the combat Beezmans supplied roughly 3m in gear for the first account and 17m for the second. Couple of days ago i started work on the first account, the second one i hadnt logged into. Yesturday i went to start and check the items on the first account and the gear and items were not on the account, i then got worried and thought maybe Beezmans had changed his mind for that account so i checked the other, both had no gear on and were standing in lumbridge. The first account i can confirm there was 3m of gear on the account as i had completed half the job already, the second i hadnt touched or checked but i trusted Beezmans as we had done previous work together. I have around 4 other accounts for work and 3 of my own, none of these accounts have been touched they are all safe, i also have the best anti-virus i believe that is open to the public and i have no viruses, threats or roots. Extra evidence (image below for visual proof) when i went to log in to the account it said someone was online, this was at the exact time it said beezmans had just logged into skype. to sum-rise both happened at the same time. this was the first thing against our TOS. The second wasnt that it was against but we clearly stat in our TOS that the customer is responsible for any wealth on the account. Beezmans new this and he still agreed with the TOS. we do not force anyone to agree they can deny our services like we can to them. Thank you for your time mods worker Alain w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dex Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 @Beezmans due to you logging in on the account it is impossible for anyone to determine who took the gold. This is exactly the reason why you are not supposed to log in to an account unless you have permission from the service provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezmans Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 @Beezmans due to you logging in on the account it is impossible for anyone to determine who took the gold. This is exactly the reason why you are not supposed to log in to an account unless you have permission from the service provider. ... first off i didnt log on the acct till they informed me the gold was taken lemme ihow about they provide the whole skype convo instead of making up shit http://gyazo.com/249d36d1f093b0078163fbb6b562023c http://gyazo.com/b077a62244bd3c84a8b4bdd6552439e5 http://gyazo.com/09a73c7b09f9b3894e9c9dab318c37f6 http://gyazo.com/7ab8c29c7aa43cf811bba0e6425b4629 proof i ddint log on the acct till they informed me the gold was gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezmans Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 @Beezmans due to you logging in on the account it is impossible for anyone to determine who took the gold. This is exactly the reason why you are not supposed to log in to an account unless you have permission from the service provider. also alain w post proves nothing she could be logged on the account in that picture so that should be thrown out as evidence all it shows is my account being logged in and my skype being online.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezmans Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 when a worker says 17m is missing off my account i consider it the best method of approach to log on the account and approve that the gold is infact missing secondly..... as shown in the above gyazos they dont inform me the 25m will be void.... also they never started the order for the 25m job so they should refund it due to the fact no job was ever started ..... thirdly as shown above in the gyazos inform alain/red flag im changing the pass and they dont say oh your not gonna be refunded i say that the job is still theres if we can figure this out in a timely manner and they continue talking if you need more gyazos ill feel free to post them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezmans Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) These are the skype conversations between me and beezmans. Showing him admitting to logging on the account before as well as being compromised earlier. http://osbot.org/forum/topic/76654-small-chance-of-skype-compromised/?p=849584 also to the skype compromise my skype is not compromised i ran a side check to make sure me telling you the possibility my skype might be compromised is not me saying my skype is compromised ! also alain states in the above text that she had not logged on beezmans+2@hotmail.com then how the hell is he able to list off what was on the acct? http://gyazo.com/fd1e8ce3f358925caec57edcd7ea4bef proof of her being able to list/value what was on the acct http://gyazo.com/6d7cad4c32e243bce562b5c7d8eafb93 http://gyazo.com/b87f0d64b158bee988ea9f97ab2b5a82 i left the above items+ 4m on the acct there in my account that i provided them grand exchange sell history i also left 4m 07 the EXACT TOTAL OF THESE ITEMS COMES TO 17M HOW WAS SHE ABLE TO SO ACCURATELY TELL ME THE EXACT AMOUNT ON THE ACCT [THAT SHE APPARENTLY NEVER LOGGED ON TOO] http://gyazo.com/cb87f576eb82883b7c26d29441c87734 alain stating she didnt log on the account but somehow knew the exact value of items taken...... something doesnt smell right and i just took a shower all i got to say Edited July 3, 2015 by Beezmans 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain w Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 That login try was before i told you about the gold, hence why when i told you about the gold i asked if you had logged in, that is also why above i stated that when this happened my initial thought was you took the gold off as you were going to cancel the service, hence you logging in before i even started. I think everyone will agree the four gazos posted above show absolutely nothing im not sure why youve posted them, the first one is the only one that has any relevance to this whole thing, and thats just you denning evidence of proof i actually have in a visual image which in my eyes is quite hard to deny. now that is sorted the next thing, the items, you say "then how the hell is she able to list off what she was on the acct?" well... umm. you told me the items on the account and what cash was on it, ive been playing rs for 10 years i can make a pretty good guess of how to add up. i simply estimated 17m from the items you told me that were on there. im 19 studying motorsport engineering and uni, i can add numbers up. The image below is of the second time Beezmans told me of the items on the account and confirming them to Decode. This is how i know what is on the account. In another post he also started the other items which where cash of roughly 8m and ppots 350. This is what i can estimate to roughly 17m. Evidence of telling me items for second time ( not all items just some can provide other image if needed ) I also have another image and another example of when Beezmans went against our TOS, he changed the password during the service and then didnt contact us about it and then changed it back. I believe this is enough evidence to provide a clear indication that Beezmans clearly ignored our TOS several times and i believe that due to our TOS stating " logging into the account result in termination of service and no refund " i believe Beezmans cant really argue for any of this. Due to the amount of evidence pointing at Beezmans braking TOS and logging into the accounts. Please could the mods tell us what to do as we will never reach an agreement with Beezmans. please bare in mind im just speaking for Decode while he is away but i believe this is his wishes from what i have chatted to him about. Many thanks mods and Dex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
