HI all,

I'm interesting in buying a refurnished server for botting.
Found an internetstore with depot close by.

Custom setup:

HP PROLIANT ML350P GEN8

• CPU

  Xeon E5-2650 / 2.00GHz / Eight Core / QPi 8.00 / Cache 20MB / TDP 95W / 64-bit P/N: SR0KQ, SR0H4

• CPU 2

  Xeon E5-2650 / 2.00GHz / Eight Core / QPi 8.00 / Cache 20MB / TDP 95W / 64-bit P/N: SR0KQ, SR0H4

• HDD

  1 x 1000GB 7.2K SAS 2.5" Dual port, 6G, ORIGINEEL DELL [P/N: 9W5WV, 09W5WV]

• Power Supply Unit

  2 x 2x HP 460W Platinum, Power Supply, HSTNS-PL28 P/N: 643931-001

Question:

How many bots can I run on this? I'm looking to run 30-50 bots.

There is no RAM in the custom setup because I can get free ram.

128GB should be enough for that processing power I suppose? 

The total cost is around 700 eur.

Any tips? 

Kind regards.

Hungry lad.

 

 

6 hours ago, notafeg said:

HI all,

I'm interesting in buying a refurnished server for botting.
Found an internetstore with depot close by.

Custom setup:

HP PROLIANT ML350P GEN8

• CPU

  Xeon E5-2650 / 2.00GHz / Eight Core / QPi 8.00 / Cache 20MB / TDP 95W / 64-bit P/N: SR0KQ, SR0H4

• CPU 2

  Xeon E5-2650 / 2.00GHz / Eight Core / QPi 8.00 / Cache 20MB / TDP 95W / 64-bit P/N: SR0KQ, SR0H4

• HDD

  1 x 1000GB 7.2K SAS 2.5" Dual port, 6G, ORIGINEEL DELL [P/N: 9W5WV, 09W5WV]

• Power Supply Unit

  2 x 2x HP 460W Platinum, Power Supply, HSTNS-PL28 P/N: 643931-001

Question:

How many bots can I run on this? I'm looking to run 30-50 bots.

There is no RAM in the custom setup because I can get free ram.

128GB should be enough for that processing power I suppose? 

The total cost is around 700 eur.

Any tips? 

Kind regards.

Hungry lad.

 

 

Just an FYI, if you are going to use more than 8 ram sticks, you'll need more power from your PSU's 

2 hours ago, Fratem said:

Just an FYI, if you are going to use more than 8 ram sticks, you'll need more power from your PSU's 

Thanks for the reply,

So if I do understand you correctly:

With this motherboard I can equip 24x 8GB 

= 192gb of ram tatal

Seems decent for first botfarm.

 

2 minutes ago, notafeg said:

Thanks for the reply,

So if I do understand you correctly:

With this motherboard I can equip 24x 8GB 

= 192gb of ram tatal

Seems decent for first botfarm.

 

Oh no, it can be any amount of RAM.
Just if you use more than 8 physical sticks, please get 800W+ power supplies 😉

Okay, thank you very much for the given advice!

Kind regards,

Notafeg

 

You want redundant power supplies, you want to keep load below 60% of the total rating of the psu

You're only getting 8 cores with this, so I'm not sure you'll be able to run many bots. I feel like 128gb of ram is overkill for 8 cores. It feel like 1gb is enough for 1-1.5 bots (each osbot client instance) but my scripts are not fully optimized. My experience with a poorly coded script running off a dl360 g7 w/ xeon 2560 I made using heavy amounts of webwalking: 1 core is enough for 2-2.5 bots. However, that is at max load. I prefer to try to keep stuff at half usage. Currently I'm refactoring my code to use PathWalking, which has pretty much evaporated high CPU load, but I am not done so no benchmarks yet

Have you considered a dual socket or quad socket server? why the ml350? I think I'm gonna get a quad socket unit

IMO 700 euros is too expensive, a g8 proiant server I think should only run you a few hundred

Edited January 11, 20224 yr by BigCahunaBurger

Bear in mind mirror mode is technically 2 clients   Unless you're doing a stealth injection farm then that's different

28 minutes ago, Czar said:

Bear in mind mirror mode is technically 2 clients   Unless you're doing a stealth injection farm then that's different

yea I just use stealth cause I don't see much of a difference in ban rate for my use case

Your hardware needs will increase with mirror mode

Hi all,

Thanks again for all the information, I did some more research about hardware.  4  CPU socket servers are a bit harsh te get.
Or does anyone know brand/type? Looking for 500-1000 eur refurnished price range.

I found a better alternative with in total 24 cores.
Running a botfarm with 50 bots max seems good for testing the waters:
DELL POWEREDGE R630 8X 2.5"

Price is €600 with no ram or harddrives (I can get those for free)
 

• CPU

  2x Intel Xeon E5-2680 v3 - 2.50-3.30GHz / 12Core, 24Threads / QPi 9.60 / Cache 30MB / TDP 120W

• Heatsink

  2x Heatsink for R630 P/N: 0H1M29

• RAID Controller

  Onboard RAID SATA Controller S130 (Software RAID)

• NDC - Network Daughter Card

  Dell Broadcom 5720 Quad-Port Gigabit P/N: 0FM487

• Power Supply Unit 750W

  2x Power Supply Dell, 80+ PLATINUM, 750W P/N: TPJ2X, 0TPJ2X

Would this be a good server?
I can make it cheaper if I choose 2x 450W but not sure if that is enough?

Kind regards

On 1/11/2022 at 4:04 AM, Fratem said:

Oh no, it can be any amount of RAM.
Just if you use more than 8 physical sticks, please get 800W+ power supplies 😉

That's stupid.

A stick of ram uses like 3w.

A fully loaded server like the above will be like 200w under heavy load, closer to 100w idle.

On 1/16/2022 at 7:43 PM, notafeg said:

Hi all,

Thanks again for all the information, I did some more research about hardware.  4  CPU socket servers are a bit harsh te get.
Or does anyone know brand/type? Looking for 500-1000 eur refurnished price range.

I found a better alternative with in total 24 cores.
Running a botfarm with 50 bots max seems good for testing the waters:
DELL POWEREDGE R630 8X 2.5"

Price is €600 with no ram or harddrives (I can get those for free)
 

• CPU

  2x Intel Xeon E5-2680 v3 - 2.50-3.30GHz / 12Core, 24Threads / QPi 9.60 / Cache 30MB / TDP 120W

• Heatsink

  2x Heatsink for R630 P/N: 0H1M29

• RAID Controller

  Onboard RAID SATA Controller S130 (Software RAID)

• NDC - Network Daughter Card

  Dell Broadcom 5720 Quad-Port Gigabit P/N: 0FM487

• Power Supply Unit 750W

  2x Power Supply Dell, 80+ PLATINUM, 750W P/N: TPJ2X, 0TPJ2X

Would this be a good server?
I can make it cheaper if I choose 2x 450W but not sure if that is enough?

Kind regards

Yeah this is much better than the first one you looked at. Dual E5-2680v4 would be even better and should cost about the same.

450w is fine.

Edited January 19, 20224 yr by Gabriel Ramuglia