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On 7/17/2020 at 10:12 AM, RoundBox said:

Here is a personal experience.

I have a machine with an i7 6700. 16GB RAM.

I can run 8 Mirror Mode bots at 100% CPU and my cooling solution is good enough that im not thermal throttling on the CPU.

My ram is sitting at about 9GB Usage.

https://imgur.com/a/tVuAJKi - Proof of performance.

It should be noted that when the clients are loaded up and are idle (no script running at this point) CPU usage sit 55-60. Once all the clients are running bots, thats when it shoots to 100%. So as you start loading bots onto your new build, start with 10, check cpu usage. go to 15, check cpu usage, and incrementally go up from there based on CPU usage left.

 

The script you choose will dictate massively the CPU consumption. Where possible, disable Paint.

The real kicker here is that if you haven't purchased already. You should go with an AMD build, the more Cores/threads the better.

A high performing CPU with great clock speeds isn't what you need. Runescape can be run perfectly fine on a 1Ghz processor.

As you intend to run a game that only utilizes a single core. The higher core and thread count will benefit you greater than a faster CPU.

128GB RAM is certainly over kill

This is not to say that a High speed processor WON'T benefit you. Just that your money is better spent on a CPU that has a lower clock speed and a higher core/thread count.

Realistically. The best CPU to run a mass bot farm on would be an AMD thread ripper.

 

EDIT: I realized I never really answer your question. 

Using my i7 which has 4 cores 8 threads that is able to run 8 as a baseline. It would be safe to assume that you will run at least 16. As others have mentioned. 20 seems in the realm of possibility.  40 however, seems unlikely. If it were stealth injection. for sure. Mirror Mode is a resource intensive beast. and again, The script your running will really determine what's possible. 

I would like to stress that at this point if you planning on running a massive bot farm and have invested this money into a PC build, ensure that you have invested in a suitable cooling solution for your CPU.

 

Thanks for the in depth response. I actually currently have the i7 7700 and have the same results.    i think I will consider getting an AMD threadripper build if I decide to keep scaling.  I imagine a comparable intel is just more expensive?  I think a couple of the thread rippers with high cores/threads are around $1500-2000, so that could work.  I'm not sure, but maybe a VPS set up or a dedi would be better, just haven't tried it and I'm not sure if its a hassle or not.  Good to know to not focus on the speed of the processor, that helps.  

11 hours ago, Protoprize said:

I have a i7 9750hq (6 core 12 threads laptop CPU). Good cooling and it it runs at around 4GHz at 100% usage. I can run about 6 miror mode clients at once before it poops itself and the lag starts 

Contrast to injection, I can run around 20 with no interface/no render on

Thanks for the details

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9 hours ago, Count me in said:

 

Thanks for the in depth response. I actually currently have the i7 7700 and have the same results.    i think I will consider getting an AMD threadripper build if I decide to keep scaling.  I imagine a comparable intel is just more expensive?  I think a couple of the thread rippers with high cores/threads are around $1500-2000, so that could work.  I'm not sure, but maybe a VPS set up or a dedi would be better, just haven't tried it and I'm not sure if its a hassle or not.  Good to know to not focus on the speed of the processor, that helps.  

Thanks for the details

As you can see from that @Protoprize results, The script he is using is is affecting How many bots he can run. He has a CPU (Albeit a laptop one) that far out performs my i7 6700 and is maxing out on less bots.

My absolute personal recommendation, and I only didn't mention this earlier because of the hassles in maintaining it but if your willing to use VPS's then it doesnt matter.

Jump on Ebay and purchase Ex business Dell Optiplex's.

You can get 4th gen I7 Models which 16GB of RAM for around $200-250 USD.

Depending what country your from, this model of Desktop is generally available everywhere but other options are Lenovo Think station (I believe thats what its called).

If you purchased a wireless keyboard and mouse combo (a cheap one) and a single Monitor, you can then manage as many computers as you want be simply moving a HDMI cable and a single USB receiver for the keyboard and mouse combo.  

Your bang for buck going does this route is substantially higher. At minimum, you should be able to run 6 bots per machine, but 4 is a safe number.
 

It's not until 9th gen I7's that Intel finally added more cores.

As you havent already invested in the build yet, if your not willing to purchase second hand PC's, there are much cheaper AMD routes you can take to achieve good core/thread ratio at a much more reasonable price than intel. Intel is behind the 8 ball when it comes to consumer CPU's nowadays.

Another consideration for @Protoprize's results is that because he is running a laptop CPU, they tend to run roughly 10W's less than its Desktop varient. Which in CPU performance is quite large. However i'm more than positive it's not his CPU, but rather the script he has chosen to farm with.

 

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6 hours ago, RoundBox said:

As you can see from that @Protoprize results, The script he is using is is affecting How many bots he can run. He has a CPU (Albeit a laptop one) that far out performs my i7 6700 and is maxing out on less bots.

My absolute personal recommendation, and I only didn't mention this earlier because of the hassles in maintaining it but if your willing to use VPS's then it doesnt matter.

Jump on Ebay and purchase Ex business Dell Optiplex's.

You can get 4th gen I7 Models which 16GB of RAM for around $200-250 USD.

Depending what country your from, this model of Desktop is generally available everywhere but other options are Lenovo Think station (I believe thats what its called).

If you purchased a wireless keyboard and mouse combo (a cheap one) and a single Monitor, you can then manage as many computers as you want be simply moving a HDMI cable and a single USB receiver for the keyboard and mouse combo.  

Your bang for buck going does this route is substantially higher. At minimum, you should be able to run 6 bots per machine, but 4 is a safe number.
 

It's not until 9th gen I7's that Intel finally added more cores.

As you havent already invested in the build yet, if your not willing to purchase second hand PC's, there are much cheaper AMD routes you can take to achieve good core/thread ratio at a much more reasonable price than intel. Intel is behind the 8 ball when it comes to consumer CPU's nowadays.

Another consideration for @Protoprize's results is that because he is running a laptop CPU, they tend to run roughly 10W's less than its Desktop varient. Which in CPU performance is quite large. However i'm more than positive it's not his CPU, but rather the script he has chosen to farm with.

 

I would consider vps's.  What would you recommend?

I'll check out some used I7's on various websites, see what I find.  I suppose it just takes a little bit of time to set everything up on multiple devices as opposed to 1 device, but if its significantly cheaper its worth checking.  

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