AMD clock != Intel clock

 

Intel's core processors push more data out in less clock cycles than AMD does.  Intel is known for its strong cores.  AMD has weaker cores.

 

Even with multi threading, Intel usually always beats AMD.  That's why they're expensive compared to AMD.

 

(also amd's 8 core is a marketing scheme.  They use a similar process to Intel's hyperthreading.)

And why you would recommend worse cpu to beginners?
 
Intel for beginners and intel K cpu for veteran.

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Intel K for beginners, Intel for veterans.

Us veterans know how to overclock the old fashioned way

 

AMD clock != Intel clock

 

Intel's core processors push more data out in less clock cycles than AMD does.  Intel is known for its strong cores.  AMD has weaker cores.

 

Even with multi threading, Intel usually always beats AMD.  That's why they're expensive compared to AMD.

 

(also amd's 8 core is a marketing scheme.  They use a similar process to Intel's hyperthreading.)

 

 

Amd cores arnt same as Intels HT, they are "Real" cores.

 

Also it depends on what you want to do with your PC and what your budget is:

APU`s > Intel haswel gpu wise price/performance.

 

 

About reliability i`m not sure, since intel haswel chips come with a cheap thermal paste inside, resulting some CPU`s have difference on cores of about 20 °C, no idea why to use thermal paste in 1st place.

AMD seems to be better long-term choice because of 8 cores, as new consoles come with AMD parts, devs will start to utilize them. From Intel i`d get their 6 core ivy bridge or none at all. However waiting for intel 8 core before switching from AMD

Amd fx-8350
8 cores
8 threads
 
intel i5-4670k
4 cores
4 threads
 
result from xbitlab test:
 
comparing fx-8350 and intel i5-3570k wins on tests (and newer 4670k is even more powerful...)
Performance in Applications
 
Amd: 6
Intel: 5
 
Gaming Performance
 
Amd: 0
Intel: 6
General Performance
 
Amd: 2
Intel: 5
 
 
Amd fanboys: deal with it

Edited August 7, 201312 yr by Smg24

Intel all the way.

May be a lil more costly, but spend your money wisely (If you're building)

www.newegg.com 

Built my computer from there! Now I can bet that only a very few people have a better computer than me on this website. 

 

Intel all the way.

May be a lil more costly, but spend your money wisely (If you're building)

www.newegg.com 

Built my computer from there! Now I can bet that only a very few people have a better computer than me on this website. 

 Well, 3570k is just 20$ and 4670k 40$ (actually there is promo code -10$ so it's 30$) more expensive. 

I'd also recommend CoolerMaster cases.

ive had AMD lols desktop 3 years old AMD works fine 50% ram used and 100% CPU usage on 5 tabs open mouse still wont lag at all. Also i've had 5 clients up and etc still at 100% CPU computer never lagged amd is the best

Backwards

Intel K for beginners, Intel for veterans.

Us veterans know how to overclock the old fashioned way

 

And what is that old fashioned way? You just can't change non-k model cpu ratio at bios, because it's locked? (i guess you meant bios=old fashioned and utility=newer ?)

 

ive had AMD lols desktop 3 years old AMD works fine 50% ram used and 100% CPU usage on 5 tabs open mouse still wont lag at all. Also i've had 5 clients up and etc still at 100% CPU computer never lagged amd is the best

 

facepalm... Did anyone said that amd sucks? It is decent, but intel gives much better performance for same price.

 

 

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Kids trying to grow post count by posting shit on threads about something they don't know nothing... Just can't expect anything from those who bought market pc which sadly has amd cpu and they praise amd here...

 

AMD.

 

AMD clock != Intel clock

 

Intel's core processors push more data out in less clock cycles than AMD does.  Intel is known for its strong cores.  AMD has weaker cores.

 

Even with multi threading, Intel usually always beats AMD.  That's why they're expensive compared to AMD.

 

(also amd's 8 core is a marketing scheme.  They use a similar process to Intel's hyperthreading.)

Amd cores arnt same as Intels HT, they are "Real" cores.

 

Also it depends on what you want to do with your PC and what your budget is:

APU`s > Intel haswel gpu wise price/performance.

 

 

About reliability i`m not sure, since intel haswel chips come with a cheap thermal paste inside, resulting some CPU`s have difference on cores of about 20 °C, no idea why to use thermal paste in 1st place.[/size]

AMD seems to be better long-term choice because of 8 cores, as new consoles come with AMD parts, devs will start to utilize them. From Intel i`d get their 6 core ivy bridge or none at all. However waiting for intel 8 core before switching from AMD

I count 4.

I count 4.

I will say it once more. MORE CORES != MORE PERFORMANCE. It solely depends on the logic of the core. Intels architecture completes instructions FASTER than AMD. AMD cores take longer to process the same item as intel (hence the stock clock speed).

Don't even bring iGPU into this. Who the hell buys an 8 core cpu and doesn't have a discrete graphics card. Hell, I'd even take a high end video card over a high end cpu.

I'm not an intel fanboy, in fact i love amd's 7xxx series gpus. but these days amd have just been getting their asses kicked by intel, so nothing you can really do but to suck it up and get an intel chip i'm afraid. sorry if its too much to read im a bit of a nerd when it comes to these things lol. let me know if you need to know anything else because i know all about price/performance.

AMD doesn't make GPU's. ATI does. However AMD owns ATI now.

ive had AMD lols desktop 3 years old AMD works fine 50% ram used and 100% CPU usage on 5 tabs open mouse still wont lag at all. Also i've had 5 clients up and etc still at 100% CPU computer never lagged amd is the best

Have you ever used Intel to compare it to?

Backwards

Intel K for beginners, Intel for veterans.

Us veterans know how to overclock the old fashioned way

 

And what is that old fashioned way? You just can't change non-k model cpu ratio at bios, because it's locked? (i guess you meant bios=old fashioned and utility=newer ?)

Old fashioned is overclocking the entire system using the base clock. (memory,pci,cpu,and anything else that uses the bclk for reference)

and you still change the cpu ratio in the "K" versions in the bios..

Edited August 8, 201312 yr by dreamliner

http://hothardware.com/articleimages/Item1742/bulldozer-die.jpg I count 4.

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7003/Haswell_Quad_Core_Hero_HR_678x452.jpg I count 4.

I will say it once more. MORE CORES != MORE PERFORMANCE. It solely depends on the logic of the core. Intels architecture completes instructions FASTER than AMD. AMD cores take longer to process the same item as intel (hence the stock clock speed).

Don't even bring iGPU into this. Who the hell buys an 8 core cpu and doesn't have a discrete graphics card. Hell, I'd even take a high end video card over a high end cpu.

Infact each module has 2cores...

 

 

 

Backwards

Intel K for beginners, Intel for veterans.

Us veterans know how to overclock the old fashioned way

 

And what is that old fashioned way? You just can't change non-k model cpu ratio at bios, because it's locked? (i guess you meant bios=old fashioned and utility=newer ?)

 

Old fashioned is overclocking the entire system using the base clock. (memory,pci,cpu,and anything else that uses the bclk for reference)

and you still change the cpu ratio in the "K" versions in the bios..

 

Well, never said that i'm expert with overclocking but still know something about it. And still... non-k for veterans? sure... Good luck getting stable system with decent overclock

Edited August 8, 201312 yr by Smg24

Infact each module has 2cores...

I can say the same thing about the 4770k..

Also, you do know that once the chip gets hot enough, it throttles itself down to 1 "core" each module depending on temp?

How is that good design?

I don't know about you, but I call it false advertising. There is still one pipeline of instructions going into each module. From there each module works through the instructions however they please. Each module has shared sections "overlapping cores" Too bad if you're running something that needs to utilize that shared section (cough gaming) - you're down to 4 cores. Amd's ploy of their 8 core is just a marketing scheme.

this is a REAL amd 8 core. The opteron 6200.

intel's flagship E7-8820 10/20 core processor. See the difference?

MARKETING PLOY

skibbity beep-bop zip zop zoopity blip blop yeah

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/334010-28-8120-true-core

Stop dancing around the fact that AMD gave you a quad core with SMT. If you don't know what SMT is, look it up.

Edited August 8, 201312 yr by dreamliner

skibbity beep-bop zip zop zoopity blip blop yeah

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/334010-28-8120-true-core

Stop dancing around the fact that AMD gave you a quad core with SMT. If you don't know what SMT is, look it up.

Read more about those amd cpu... I admit i was partly wrong about 8-cores (though those was real cores...)

But, does amd "8-core" give any advantage with botting?

(and no, i don't have amd cpu, but i was going to get one for botting pc(still have gaming pc with intel i5))

I'm guessing nobody here has actually made a computer?

 

It depends completely on the processor and what you intend on doing. AMDs have much better integrated GPUs on a general basis; Intels usually have better l2 and l3 caching in the entry level processors. A $200 AMD will be the dominant processor until you reach the i7 Extremes or E Series.

 

Both are solid choices, just do research.

 

cpuboss.com is your best friend ;)

 

Edit: Grammar

Edited August 8, 201312 yr by Alek

 

 

AMD clock != Intel clock

 

Intel's core processors push more data out in less clock cycles than AMD does.  Intel is known for its strong cores.  AMD has weaker cores.

 

Even with multi threading, Intel usually always beats AMD.  That's why they're expensive compared to AMD.

 

(also amd's 8 core is a marketing scheme.  They use a similar process to Intel's hyperthreading.)

 

 

Amd cores arnt same as Intels HT, they are "Real" cores.

 

Also it depends on what you want to do with your PC and what your budget is:

APU`s > Intel haswel gpu wise price/performance.

 

 

About reliability i`m not sure, since intel haswel chips come with a cheap thermal paste inside, resulting some CPU`s have difference on cores of about 20 °C, no idea why to use thermal paste in 1st place.

AMD seems to be better long-term choice because of 8 cores, as new consoles come with AMD parts, devs will start to utilize them. From Intel i`d get their 6 core ivy bridge or none at all. However waiting for intel 8 core before switching from AMD

 

amd's new fx lineup aren't real cores. they're 4(cores) modules running 2 threads each. their older phenoms/athlons are true cores though. also intel's core performance in sandy-haswell is better.