Devry123 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Disputed member: Thread Link: http://osbot.org/forum/topic/101944-quests-and-minor-pleveling/ <==also the thread seen to have get deleted but I had it in my notepad Explanation: he wanted to get 50 FM and 53 thieving and B gloves. So I contacted him via skype and I told him I can do it for him. none of us wanted to go first so we using @Dbuffed as MM the deal for 50 FM and 53 thieving with is 7m total. so I told him that when I do those type of orders he can pay 25m and I do 25m worth of quests. like that he get close to the B gloves. with is what I did for him. now that I finished the 25m worth of quests he doesn't want to pay me. because he though I was getting from 128 QP to 175 QP for b gloves. I clearly say "I will do 25m worth of quests" I got him from 128QP to 147QP Evidence: http://prntscr.com/bs08jw http://prntscr.com/bs08rv http://prntscr.com/bs08y7 http://prntscr.com/bs0936 http://prntscr.com/bs099l http://prntscr.com/bs09nl after that we contacted @Dbuffed so he MM the order. his currently holding the 31m plus 1m extra that gotta pay me because it suppose to be 7m for the skills not 6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dex Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I've requested him to reply here. From the convo it looks like he was fully aware of your plan so he's supposed to pay you the full amount. Also, where does it say you guys agreed upon 32M instead of 31? Because as far as I can see 31M was the agreed upon price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Hi, I am currently holding the funds yes. I have not received the additional 1M from , however I will collect that also if required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dex Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Hi, I am currently holding the funds yes. I have not received the additional 1M from , however I will collect that also if required. If the 1M extra was agreed upon, sure. But so far I don't see any evidence of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devry123 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 If the 1M extra was agreed upon, sure. But so far I don't see any evidence of that. does this help? http://prntscr.com/bs1dt0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devry123 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 also he will be posting until tomorrow since his out of the town he say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dex Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 does this help? http://prntscr.com/bs1dt0 Yes, it does. also he will be posting until tomorrow since his out of the town he say. Alright, we'll keep waiting for him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decode Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 First off, this really really doesnt call for a TWC. The 1m was a mixup in calculations which i told the user i'd py back, the dispute is about the service and how it should be completed and how it was completed. I cant give a detailed reply atm since i dont bave access to a computer so i'll be replying with a detailed explanation as well as pictures tomorrow hopefully. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decode Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Ok so here goes my explanation. First of all i had a thread up in the request section stating i wanted someone to get 128-b gloves as well as get me 36-53 thieving and 30-50 fm (not entirely sure on levels.) Devry contacted me on skype regarding my request and the first thing he said was this: As you can see in that picture, he sent me a link to my thread and tells me he wants to do it for me. Again, not saying he wants to do part of the service but all of it. Now regarding the point of disagreement. As you can clearly see, he says "as for b gloves i always have a plan" and goes on to explain i pay 25m and he'll do 25m worth of quests. When i/most people read that i get the assumption that he wants either me to choose what quests to be done or him. He doesn't mention a recurring payment of 25m until he reaches barrow gloves. Hence why i paid the middleman (dbuffed) 31m. Due to a miscalculation on both our parts i still owe him 1m. Anyways, back to our point, when we agreed on the price and everything and i piad dbuffed the 31m i was still under the impression that it would be the only payment i would have to make since there wasnt ANY mention of any other payments. He did not include that i would have to pay a further 25m after he completed nor did he mention that the 25m would not be enough to reach the barrow gloves. Edit: I would like to also add that, again, he stated that he would be doing "All of it" In the first picture and still no mention about more payments besides the ones i already made to dbuffed (Except for the 1m which was a miscalculation on both our parts) So when i read that and he says "as for b gloves i have a plan" naturally, he should mention that the 25m would not get me barrow gloves and that i might have to pay more, simply telling me that gave me the impression that 25m was enough. Those words are very misleading. And again, no mention of further payments were made and the agreement was, as shown above, to get me barrow gloves (including DT and Lunars), as well as the powerleveling. As for what should be done, in my opinion he should complete getting me barrow gloves without receiving an additional pay/fee due to not mentioning that there would be more money to pay or that i might need to pay extra because 25m worth of quests was insufficient. Edited July 13, 2016 by LogicBug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decode Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Oh and regarding the TWC. How can anyone think that a dispute like this warrants a TWC? First off, i dont hold the payment, dbuffed does. Second of all, the only money i "owe" him is the 1mil. I dont think i'd scam quit for 1mil, nor does anyone else. The whole dispute is with regards to the service agreement and the mix up and not that any scamming was done, so can someone remove the TWC? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Oh and regarding the TWC. How can anyone think that a dispute like this warrants a TWC? First off, i dont hold the payment, dbuffed does. Second of all, the only money i "owe" him is the 1mil. I dont think i'd scam quit for 1mil, nor does anyone else. The whole dispute is with regards to the service agreement and the mix up and not that any scamming was done, so can someone remove the TWC? I've removed your TWC, and I'll be holding the additional 1m. Ok so here goes my explanation. First of all i had a thread up in the request section stating i wanted someone to do get me 36-53 thieving and 30-50 fm (not entirely sure on levels.) Devry contacted me on skype regarding my request and the first thing he said was this: As you can see in that picture, he send me a link to my thread and tells me he wants to do it for me. Again, not saying he wants to do part of the service but all of it. Now regarding the point of disagreement. As you can clearly see, he says "as for b gloves i always have a plan" and goes on to explain i pay 25m and he'll do 25m worth of quests. When i/most people read that i get the assumption that he wants either me to choose what quests to be done or him. He doesn't mention a recurring payment of 25m until he reaches barrow gloves. Hence why i paid the middleman (dbuffed) 31m. Due to a miscalculation on both our parts i still owe him 1m. Anyways, back to our point, when we agreed on the price and everything and i piad dbuffed the 31m i was still under the impression that it would be the only payment i would have to make since there wasnt ANY mention of any other payments. He did not include that i would have to pay a further 25m after he completed nor did he mention that the 25m would not be enough to reach the barrow gloves. So when i read that and he says "as for b gloves i have a plan" naturally, he should mention that the 25m would not get me barrow gloves and that i might have to pay more, simply telling me that gave me the impression that 25m was enough. Those words are very misleading. And again, no mention of further payments were made and the agreement was, as shown above, to get me barrow gloves (including DT and Lunars), as well as the powerleveling. As for what should be done, in my opinion he should complete getting me barrow gloves without receiving an additional pay/fee due to not mentioning that there would be more money to pay or that i might need to pay extra because 25m worth of quests was insufficient. I'm going to have to admit that things have been worded quite unclear, and I too would've assumed that the 25m would cover the barrows gloves, considering that's what you ordered on your thread. That being said, he did do the 25m worth of quests he mentioned he would do, so technically you still got what you paid for. As shown in the Skype logs he did say 'if you pay 25m I will do 25m worth of quests' which is what he did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decode Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I've removed your TWC, and I'll be holding the additional 1m. I'm going to have to admit that things have been worded quite unclear, and I too would've assumed that the 25m would cover the barrows gloves, considering that's what you ordered on your thread. That being said, he did do the 25m worth of quests he mentioned he would do, so technically you still got what you paid for. As shown in the Skype logs he did say 'if you pay 25m I will do 25m worth of quests' which is what he did. Technically, you could say i was deceived. I was duped into believing that 25m worth of quests would be enough to get me the barrow gloves. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dex Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 So it was a matter of miscommunication on both ends, I agree that it was indeed worded in a weird way but I don't think that was intentional. Is there a possibility to come to an agreeement like for example @Devry123 does the rest of the service to get barrows gloves at a discount and gets paid? Is that something you guys can work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decode Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) So it was a matter of miscommunication on both ends, I agree that it was indeed worded in a weird way but I don't think that was intentional. Is there a possibility to come to an agreeement like for example @Devry123 does the rest of the service to get barrows gloves at a discount and gets paid? Is that something you guys can work out? Although i dont think thats how things should work out, im all for settling things. I'll pay an additional 10mil for the service to be completed. Edit: After speaking to Devry regarding working something out i've come to the conclusion that it wont be possible. I'd like the staff to make a decision on what should be done here. Clearly and evidently i was deceived (maybe not intentionally) into thinking that the 25m worth of quests would be more than enough for the barrow gloves. Edited July 13, 2016 by LogicBug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devry123 Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 So it was a matter of miscommunication on both ends, I agree that it was indeed worded in a weird way but I don't think that was intentional. Is there a possibility to come to an agreeement like for example @Devry123 does the rest of the service to get barrows gloves at a discount and gets paid? Is that something you guys can work out? I can give him a 15% discount but that wont apply for big quests. because u gotta know that he literally have no short quests. most take near 45 mins-1hour to complete. anyway here is my thread he can pick what quests he want me to do. and I can give him 15% discount if he want. but that doesn't apply to big quests that take 40mins+ http://osbot.org/forum/topic/92109- also I've done this to 10-15+ people and none got "miscommunication" his the first one to not understand. also before I start doing more quests for him I would like to get paid first for the work that was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
