Saiyan Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Ok so today I will explain Proxies and their usages and instances where you should or should not use them I will put this long debated question "Should I use proxies or not?" Please do note before we begin that this is not the (the logic behind proxies) i.e what they specifically do (basically no specialist terms will be mentioned) Ok, so what are proxies? I'm not a genius and I don't use proxies much but what they do in terms of osrs botting is that they send and receive data from osrs on a different IP to that of your base IP which is the one which'll be used by your router. This means that connections etc will be different and hopefully Jagex will not detect that you're running lots of accounts as obviously your base router IP will be different to the proxy. This definition may not be fully correct but hopefully it is some what true; if not please do post in this thread to correct me! Ok so now that we got the definition done and dusted with, let's now address when to use proxies Proxies are mainly and should be used by Goldfarmers. This is because a gold farmer will obviously have many accounts. Not one account, not two, not three, not four, not 5, but I would say at least 5 or more minimum including a mule. Why do gold farmers use proxies? Well, a gold farmer obviously bots and whatever he bots he needs to shift the gold to a mule and a gold farmer may have a main account that is valuable so he'll obviously buy proxies as the purpose of a proxy is to reduce chain bans therefore, a gold farmer will use proxies as if one of his farming accounts got banned, he will not want his other farming accounts to get chain banned as a result. Secondly in addition to this, if (s)he uses a mule they will obviously store their daily/hourly loots on that mule and transfer to their main. Therefore, they may use a special proxy just for the mule as if they did not and used a base IP from their router with no proxies or they used the same proxies of their bots and mule account, they risk themselves a ban on that mule and that would be very frustrating lol. I can safely say that none of us a mass scale botters or gold farmers and maybe only users like @jackshow @Pain are large gold farmers. However, this does not mean that you should not use a proxy! There is nothing wrong with it at the end of the day as ultimately it's a preference and if you have the money go for it :p None of us have the right to tell us what you should do or you shouldn't do because it's your account(s) and it's your choice who are we to say do that and make sure you do not do that ;) So when you should use proxies: If you're intent on having a large scale botting farm (Greater than an X amount of accounts) I would say atleast 4-5+ If you're going to use a mule to store your loots or an account which you store gold or items and sell them off so an (rwter). If you think you're IP flagged (will address this below) If you have a main account that you do not want to risk therefore you want to use it on your base router IP but use other accounts you don't care about on the proxy ip's IP Flags: Ok so this is a big topic which is debated everyday by everyone. Some say it's a load of conversely, others say it's true and it does exist. I'm not here to alienate anyone and choose a side however, if you do want to know what I think I will tell you that I agree and disagree. So basically to elaborate, I think yes they do IP Flag but not always as I personally think that they only flag mass scale botters/goldfarmers or big industrial rwters. This is because if Jagex were to IP Flag all the botters (yes we all bot and get banned more than once,twice,thrice) It'd be tedious and very hard to manage and I dont think it'd be efficient at all on their behalf. Therefore, it's probably just some fear mongering by Mod Weath and the crew so we should just assume that unless your name is @jackshow or @Pain Don't worry I will add more to this topic but for now please do comment and correct me if I have made any mistakes! Hopefully this resolves any proxy doubt in the community. Please do note that i'm not trying to stop you from buying proxies because I do think they're good and effective but what I do not believe is that people think they will not get banned if they use them as proxies only stop chain bans and nothing else Take care and as always bot safe!!! -Saiyan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackshow Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I will give you all some helpful info. All proxies do is stop chain bans. Nothing else. Reasoning is below. If you are botting one account and playing on a main account at the same time on 1 ip, there is no reason for you to use a proxy. If you are botting 2 accounts at once on the same ip you're better off using proxies as your ban chance will be 2x as if you were running 1 account. If you are botting 3 accounts at once on the same ip, your ban chance is 3x as if you were running 1 account. Hence at once. If you think this makes no sense; there is no difference in ban rates when you're botting agility or botting rock crabs or cutting trees. It's all the same. For example, if you were botting 3 accounts on 1 ip and those 3 are doing agility, rock crabs and oak trees. If the oak cutter gets banned first, your agility bot and rock crabs are also banned. It's the same as if the rock crab account got banned first, you also lose the other 2. Why? When an account is banned, every other account from that ip that's logged in is going to be checked for botting and banned if it is. Yes, I am saying that if you rotate accounts logged in at the same time you don't need proxies. ip flags are not real. You can argue with me if you want to, but I don't give a shit and I wont reply, take this as useful information if you'd like as I think it's the only thing I will ever post that helps someone with bans. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) I will give you all some helpful info. All proxies do is stop chain bans. Nothing else. Reasoning is below. If you are botting one account and playing on a main account at the same time on 1 ip, there is no reason for you to use a proxy. If you are botting 2 accounts at once on the same ip you're better off using proxies as your ban chance will be 2x as if you were running 1 account. If you are botting 3 accounts at once on the same ip, your ban chance is 3x as if you were running 1 account. Hence at once. If you think this makes no sense; there is no difference in ban rates when you're botting agility or botting rock crabs or cutting trees. It's all the same. For example, if you were botting 3 accounts on 1 ip and those 3 are doing agility, rock crabs and oak trees. If the oak cutter gets banned first, your agility bot and rock crabs are also banned. It's the same as if the rock crab account got banned first, you also lose the other 2. Why? When an account is banned, every other account from that ip that's logged in is going to be checked for botting and banned if it is. Yes, I am saying that if you rotate accounts logged in at the same time you don't need proxies. ip flags are not real. You can argue with me if you want to, but I don't give a shit and I wont reply, take this as useful information if you'd like as I think it's the only thing I will ever post that helps someone with bans. Thank you for this godly contribution bro! Edited July 3, 2016 by Saiyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puzzled Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I will give you all some helpful info. All proxies do is stop chain bans. Nothing else. Reasoning is below. If you are botting one account and playing on a main account at the same time on 1 ip, there is no reason for you to use a proxy. If you are botting 2 accounts at once on the same ip you're better off using proxies as your ban chance will be 2x as if you were running 1 account. If you are botting 3 accounts at once on the same ip, your ban chance is 3x as if you were running 1 account. Hence at once. If you think this makes no sense; there is no difference in ban rates when you're botting agility or botting rock crabs or cutting trees. It's all the same. For example, if you were botting 3 accounts on 1 ip and those 3 are doing agility, rock crabs and oak trees. If the oak cutter gets banned first, your agility bot and rock crabs are also banned. It's the same as if the rock crab account got banned first, you also lose the other 2. Why? When an account is banned, every other account from that ip that's logged in is going to be checked for botting and banned if it is. Yes, I am saying that if you rotate accounts logged in at the same time you don't need proxies. ip flags are not real. You can argue with me if you want to, but I don't give a shit and I wont reply, take this as useful information if you'd like as I think it's the only thing I will ever post that helps someone with bans. This may be a weird occurrence but on Friday I was botting 3 accounts. 2 thieving and one was doing mining. Only the two thievers were banned. Probably just got really lucky but I'm not going to complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Very nice info, good job. Also thanks Jack for the extra tips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
