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7 minutes ago, Imateamcape said:
You seem really knowledgeable. Do you have a $5 script that you'd like to sell me for 200x its real price by any chance?
Do you have any real arguments or just bullshit and four hour ban scripts by chance? I love how you equate your garbage thieving scripts that get banned in four hours ($5) to a fully custom touch screen mouse implementation that is setup and ready to goldfarm.
Do you even have 100 IPs bro? F2P 99s ? 126 mains? -
Random breaks will get you banned -much faster-
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I did 5 F2P wcers and ran them to level 99 to suicide bot them. After level 99 i quit botting them just to see what happened. All are still unbanned, from months ago
you just need good scripts.
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That is 1 days botting. You can easily get 99s in F2P running 20/24.
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I went straight to level 99 on yew trees on F2P running 20/24. Totally possible, don't give up.
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On 4/21/2017 at 7:08 PM, Czar said:
An easier and manageable solution for scripters can be to add greater user control for their scripts, e.g. allowing the user to change every aspect of the script logic and customize it (basic example: loop timer*), more 'anti-ban' options, more custom triggers e.g. onLevelUp ('add own custom event') blah blah, users can add custom events in response to certain triggers and whatnot. That is what can differentiate the same scripts to users and negate the supposed disadvantages of popular/free scripts (due to what is theorized as script profiling).
* just an example
However I find the most successful botters are the ones with accounts that have hours and hours of manual gametime done, they seem to be unbannable at this point lmao. From a scripter's perspective, the ones who create new accounts and start insane botting journeys are the ones that get banned the most, whereas the users with a single account with many quests done and many hours played without botting are the ones with invincible 30+ hr progress reports with no bans lmao.
Loop timers, anti-ban, custom triggers, will do absolutely nothing, if you are running multiple accounts. The script will still be clicking the same x, y ranges, with the same time distribution..
But you are correct. The most certain way to keep your account unbanned, in addittion to an undetectable humanlike script, is to quest it manually above 100/200QP. A good bot will NOT be able to deviate your accounts "pattern" enough for it to show up to their detection systems. However, they also work on EXTREMELY small timescales, such as 20MS. So you can still be detected in under 4H with a bad script no matter how much manual play time you have.
A 30+ hours prog is NOTHING. A decent prog is 300 hours straight from tutorial island. Raise your standards!-
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On 4/21/2017 at 3:34 PM, Imateamcape said:
Let's get a few things straight.
1. There are a few reasons why scripts get a higher ban rate over time:
3. There is no 'ultimate antiban' that a scripter could add to make it undetectable. This is impossible.
There is ONE reason you get banned: Your script is NOT humanlike. It's bad.
You're supremely autistic if you think its -impossible- to defeat bot detection programmed by humans to the lowest cost spec possible. Have you even bothered reading any scholarly articles on the matter? There are clear methods that lead to FUD bots, at least up until 2014. Just because you don't know what methods they're using, doesn't mean others don't.On 4/21/2017 at 3:55 PM, ez11 said:So you call them lazy because they dont keep rewriting scripts that work perfectly?
Have you actually asked them to change something about their scripts with a clear suggestion (aka "can you change how the scripts does x" and not "yo can you rewrite ur scripts pls")? If you pm Khalesi with a good suggestion he will change the script within a day in my expierence.
Perfectly? Are you fucking kidding me? Most of them will get you banned in four hours. A good script can run for months. A great script will never be banned.
I have multiple 126 mains on OSRS botted 70/70/70/50/1/1 to 99/99/99/99/99/99. The oldest is from November. Maybe there is a chain ban incoming but I doubt it.10 hours ago, Nate said:we don't need anything more, this is the jackpot.
It will make absolutely no difference whatsoever in banrate if you are running multiple accounts. What actions you are doing are totally irrelevant to the bot detection itself. Hotspots are a total myth, perpetuated by thousands of people using the same terrible scripts, in the same areas.
17 hours ago, Khaleesi said:All SDN scripts still use the same osbot methods...
Making 50 scripts or making 2 will barely make any difference in my opinion ^^Only if they have some other features or a whole other logic of fletching then I can understand, but as far as I know I don't see multiple ways to fletch some bows.
I will probably do something, but not that much aslong as you are using premade SDN methods.Also finding scripters that are willing to kepe their script updated isn't that easy to find.
Most will say they will kepe it updated, but will bail after some time.. people will lose the script and their money for nothing then
So there are asome pros but also cons at thisTheres not multiple ways to fletch bows? Jesus christ dont send this guy your money
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Who the fuck bots on an acc with 100m xD You're fucked, they will wait until you put over 100M to ban, could be months.
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On 4/13/2017 at 9:23 PM, Juggles said:
Ill make someone this script for 25m. Pm me if interested
Now THAT is a scam!
On 4/13/2017 at 10:51 PM, Nate said:Assumed the dead silence after reading it was a sign
I didn't forget about you. Doing finals and trying to setup bot farm at same time. I'm not using the coordinates myself, yet.
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1 hour ago, Nate said:
tfw OP played me for co-ordinates
Can you not wait 24H?
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9 hours ago, Montana of 300 said:
lol 'show me 1000M'
he just wants to get exited over a cash stack or this is some failed lure
If you would make us a video; with changing the tabs; mouse movements; shwoing a level 99 thieving account that'd probally prove it enough. If you make them so quickly also; showing 1 account won't harm you much!
A gif is easier to fake than a still.. Anyone can simply use a memory editor and show you 200m exp. Screenshot worthless. Why do u want it? You aren't going to buy this. Might upload a gif anyway,
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Went ahead and ran another account last night to ensure the script was still working OK. Haters will say it's photo shopped.
On W45 you can expect 725K EXP/hr averaged all the way from 1-99. Profit is 1.35M GP. -
8 hours ago, Final said:
DMM isn't watched. Ran a farm on release which does nature chests until 99. No bans.
Nobody cares about 200m XP on DMM, you don't receive bans.
If this shit works half as well as you state it does, you'd be atleast close to being maxed on OSRS.
Nature chest is HEAVILY watched now, ever since I did the same thing last year. Nature chest and knight are extreme hotspots, the only bottable safezone GP in dmm. Try running your script today on 15 accounts. You won't make it far.
7 hours ago, Imateamcape said:Still waiting to see those 'multiple' 200M accounts (200M on DMM != 200M on OSRS) why have you still not provided proof of this? you've been sitting on here arguing for hours - also, for two seasons, I got by doing exactly what @Final did, except also with Paladin's chest, eventually getting 99 on multiple accounts. It's not difficult. The only "proprietary" aspect of your script is the pseudo antiban. Anybody can randomize a script and its movements. Real players don't move randomly.
Mother fucker, I am not showing you shit. You don't want to buy it. I don't give a fuck. This is not a used car dealership, I do no give a fuck what you want kid. Thanks again for free bumps ")
The fact that you think this is such gold and so impossible to code tells me just how bad you are at programming. Any decent software engineer could come up with this in the same amount of time or probably less.
7 hours ago, turkoize said:Tbh I'm surprised nobody asked if it checked wc xp yet
It checks WC exp every 5-7 minutes
6 hours ago, DrDu said:LUL u fully LIT everyone on this thread and theyre stll going
script looks g
Thanks it was a lot of work!
3 hours ago, Imateamcape said:1. There is no goddamn Paladin's chest
2. There is no fucking antiban in this script, that is some stupid bullshit you made up to claim you added to your own scritpt and you're projecting. Please show me where i EVER advertised anything as antiban, thanks
The entire point of this script is anti-detection. Jagex does not even look at you until you've already cashed out. -
1 hour ago, k9thebeast said:
The beggining of DMM (Presumably where you would run this script with good swap rates) is about the first 12-24 hours I'd guess. You say it can make 1b but you are selling it for 1b. I appreciate u want to move on to bigger and better methods, but it seems rather weird to me that I could make my investment back from 1 DMM season and 24 hours work. What have you made on this script in past seasons and would you be willing to show me proof of that?
I can't provide proof of my earnings outside of paypal screenshots. However I can provide some basic calculations. At level 99 you will earn 100GP every 1.8 seconds. There are no breaks or antiban delays so that is a constant number. Consider a 1:50 swap rate for day one. You can look at 15M/hr OSRS per account. The next SDMM season in months away and by then I will not be messing with osbot nearly as much hopefully, as I will be graduating as electric engineer tech
Now running on normal W45 you are looking at 1:2 swap rate, so 600k OSRS per hour. Much less but still profitable. Remember you can die on DMM, especially while getting rogues kit. If someone decides to death spot camp you for 30 mins and you lose your untradables, can be a bitch. Only happened to me once though, and you can still run the bot without rogues kit. These types of problems are what I'm looking to avoid but others might find negligible! Getting this script at 1B is virtually a steal. I agree. I considered 5B at first but figured it was a waste of time to post because nobody was going to drop 5B on any script, regardless of profitability.
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Also I would like to say that the "random delays" that @Alek referenced only take place in simulated error conditions which are handled by underlying code. Usually it won't happen more than once per hour or so while the account is under level 80. After llevel 99, that will never happen. Ever. So basically it >might< get called about six times in the lifetime of the bot. (on 10X DMM, more on osrs, still basically nothing, across the span of 12h or so) Nothing to worry about The script is very accurate. If programmed to do so, it can go to level 99 with no misclicks. Obviously that's not ideal and the script will ship with some random delays as alek mentioned. Thanks for letting me clarify.
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21 minutes ago, Tylersbored said:
Just pushed the update (v0.3). Lemme know if you have anymore suggestions or if you find anymore bugs.
Updated. Added import proxies and you can either update all bots by pressing "update all" or you can select specific bots and press "update bot". Lemme know if you have any more suggestions or find any bugs.
Very nice, will use. Ignore sig, got trolled by admins
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2 hours ago, Alek said:
April Fools is over, belongs in the spam section.
Edit: Boy you guys on this forum are gullible and eat up any anti-ban garbage someone pulls out.
He reads my top level class with absolutely no access to any anti detection methods, yet still calls me out on code he hasn't seen. Alright. I will take the hit and thank you for moving the thread back to correct forum
No hard feelings. Granted I did not show you the code that actually has $1,000 price tag to me, which is my underlying methods, so I can not fault you for warning users. This is not for mains. You are probably going to get banned if you suicide bot to 99. Just not before you cash out.
Rest of you guys?
Are you going to listen to the guy without 200m thieving exp or the guy with 200m thieving exp? It's that simple. I will be updating the NPC IDs to names and combat levels before sale as well! Thanks to alek for proofreading script! 
EDIT: Teaser of the custom mouse implementation. These pictures are a compilation of all clicks from level 40-99. As you can see, the instances are totally different from each other, including inventory click positions, walking click positions, game screen click positions, and x and y variations for each. Despite what Alek says, this script is indeed more advanced than any knight thiever on the SDN at least.
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12 minutes ago, Alek said:
I don't give a crap about your methods or stealing anything from you. You are making outrageous claims for a private script with an outrageous price tag. If you want to be taken seriously I'm looking for some serious code to look at.
You can see full operation from lvl 40-99 in the part of the script i PM'ed you
Except for clicking methods, antiban, walking, etc. Those are for the buyer. Or me, if you decide to ban me. Which would be silly as I would simply make a new account in five minutes on a new IP and continue botting anyway. They are not outrageous claims. I have MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS at 200m exp that you can SEE in your logs that I own.. You have all the proof you need to see this is legit without asking me for ANY code. I am not gullible lol. Why don't you leave it up to the end buyer to determine if it is worth the price tag instead of proactively deciding to throw it in the trash? IDK why am even still posting could have done something productive, never saw this coming. If you think my claims are outrageous, you are simply bad at scripting. There is nothing else to it. Because it's very real and I ran it every day for months..
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11 minutes ago, Alek said:
Those mouse keys are nothing. No offense but all it is, is elementary math and Java API written in 1996. If this is what OSBuddy is doing, then we are basically doing the same thing.
I'm not looking at videos, I'll look at code. Since your antiban code is so sacred (even though I'm very sure if anything you are using an external API), send me the code without it.You are basically doing the same thing but osbot does not have mouse keys functionality as far as i am aware. I did not claim the mouse keys were "big" or "hard to code" I simply said the functionality was included in the bots operation. If it does then I missed that and shouldn't have written my own. Fine, since you really want to learn my methods for yourself, I will let you leech. I have PM'd you the entire class, excluding base class functionality. You will be able to clearly see from the paint method and getEmptyTile that what I am sending you is the exact script pictured running in the GIFs I provided in OP. PM already sent.
11 minutes ago, ProjectPact said:If you are Based God, why aren't you SIV?
Because I don't know what that is. I'm not claiming to be the best programmer. Simply someone who actually knows how to program.
Really? Edit my sig? You guys may not be getting any referral business from me and you may suck at coding but you're hells of trolls
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4 minutes ago, Nate said:
I'm not a troll, can I get a fully built f2p automated farm with mule support?
Jesus fucking christ. Alright what do you want to bot? I'll code you everything but I'm not sending you my account creator
4 minutes ago, ProjectPact said:A thieving script took you 200 hours? Talk about efficient!
Nah, but fucking writing the Java event system debugger and testing multiple laptops and systems for ban detection as well as perfectly implementing that into code in a way that would work reliably and also in low cpu modes or during lagg without giving up that you're a bot did. I am currently using the base class for my other private scripts which is why its not going on SDN. Thieving class is 200 lines and is basically the same from months ago. Back end is what I'm selling here. if you cant grasp that then leave. you're above your head.
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9 minutes ago, towelman said:
My non trolly suggestion is release some scripts to the community so people can get a feel of your scripting capabilities before selling an expensive private script. Work on feedback etc and it will go far, just my 2 cents
Sure I could use osbot default mouse methods and not put any of my expensive anti detection methods in the bot, but then it would merely taint my reputation as a programmer. I will not release anything subpar. What do you want? Jesus christ man. You're the only non troll here. I will literally code you a free script just tell me what you need
6 minutes ago, Alek said:Sure, lets go with the method simply wrapping the awt events just to keep things simple. You still didn't really show anything that proved these claims:
1. "fully custom mouse implementation which clones Sony's touch screen input controls"
2. "Combined with an exact clone of OSBuddy mousekeys behavior"
I'm not saying that whatever you have is "ban proof", I just want to see what you're trying to sell actually exists. What you showed was stuff I've seen from the scripters you're calling out.
1. I am not showing code-proof of that, because it is the main anti detection method. I could show video proof..
2. mkClick, up, down, left, right are an exact clone of osbuddy mousekeys behavior.. What else are you asking for? I literally pasted all methods needed to use mousekeys.
Obviously you have never actually RAN perfect thiever because you will be banned FAR before level 90 much less 99 and MUCH less 200m exp.. So obviously I did not rip anything from them or use their bots for these accounts. I literally bought that script, started an account, got banned in four hours, and got so pissed the fucker took my money for that pile of garbage it inspired me to code this 200 hours of coding later here we are.
I am happy to give you proof I can livestream it running for you or anything you ask. I will literally make GIF of 0-200m EXP. Just not giving source code except to the buyer.
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4 minutes ago, ProjectPact said:
Please stop, you are really making me want to make a thieving script and release it to the public for free...
EDIT: Mine is going to have 1337 antiban too. Way better than yours!
Are you literally so jealous of my code that you have to move it to SPAM to prevent people from seeing that good bots exist? I don't get it. NO other thiever on this site by ANY programmer including yourself is CURRENTLY capable of getting level 99 without ban or delayed ban. Will put my money on it. So why are you badgering me? Please enlighten me. What do I have to do to earn the right to sell scripts on thy empress website?
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5 minutes ago, upotudrop said:
Literally a Meme.
This thread is 100% serious. Admin moved it here because he has never seen a good script apparently.
4 minutes ago, towelman said:...Project selling garbage scripts? What scripts did you put out? The people you are calling out have done a lot more for the community than 99% of osbot users
Perfect Thiever I was talking about specifically.
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13 minutes ago, Alek said:
1. I want you to read the title under my name.
2. Now I want you to read what you wrote in your original post, "come with a fully custom mouse implementation which clones Sony's touch screen input controls"
3. Now I want you to read the default OSBot mouse event code which we created that you have in your snippet.
I know who you are. That doesn't give you the reason to disrespect me or waste my time by moving thread unnecessarily when I am a paying customer and there are other choices in bots.
I'm not sure what you are implying. All generateMouseEvent does is literally instantiate a new object. Why would I re code that? Literally makes no sense why I would have to re-write that to implement touch screen emulation. I can run the bot with mouse position enabled and prove to you that there is no mouse movement if you like.. but you are wasting your time here trying to "catch" me in something it seems like when you could be doing productive things.
EDIT: I literally could replace those lines of code with something similar to this:
new MouseEvent(canvas, MouseEvent.MOUSE_MOVED, System.currentTimeMillis(), 0, x, y, absX, absY, 0, false, MouseEvent.NOBUTTON)
The code above is only for mousekeys. Now my clicking methods that deal with touch screen input are different than this. mkClick is only called when the mouse is already at its target destination, as in osbuddy or windows.
But again, why when it's already coded? You accuse me of not writing a mouse implementation because I used your method that literally does new MouseEvent. Come on man... Is this a TROLL?
How to avoid auto detection?
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Simple. Don't be botlike. Do the task yourself for four hours. Record the entire thing and watch it five times. Then the hard part is, adding the math to do what you need.