Scotty

?? Political parties have manifestos, so you know what they are going to implement, and from their past experience you know the likelyhood of successful governmence ????

We already who the leader before the vote, so we vote for MPs based on the potential leader?

We don't have a president, and you know that because you say we are a monarchy. We vote the political party, which means we are voting for the head of the party to be the prime minister. The monarchy is just for show, our prime minister is the head of state in reality.

you must be trolling if you're trying to suggest that you're happy with undemocratic bodies

if someone isn't voted for, that's completely undemocratic.. regardless of whether germany accepts it or not it's not the fact they disagree with decisions, its the fact that their preferences (which their home government should enforce) have to be ignored (as there are so many member states with conflicting preferences), which is undemocratic it's because greece was forced into austerity, which is undemocratic, their population didn't vote for austerity governments, but those governments were forced into austerity by germany

It's not my argument mate, I am just trying to explain how it could be viewed as undemocratic. But I guess you don't know what democratic is or at least everyone views it differently, which is your right

probably the worst poll i've ever seen on osbot for clarity i voted the wrong option because of you!!!!!

basically: on an institutional level a number of the european bodies which decide things are unelected, the president is also unelected (its very bureaucratic) while on a rational level.. there are 28 countries populations which have difference preferences etc, but the one body decides the fate of all 28 countries preferences.. look at greece after the crisis, they were made to adopt austerity.. also you could argue that there are loads of laws and regulations which mean that each member state finds it harder to fulfil democracy or their manifesto because of the EU

this depends on which side of the argument you stand.. but basically the main neutral reasons which can't be debated: british people are proud people, and don't feel european the european union is undemocratic sovereignty is taken away from britain and pooled in the EU the european union will keep increasing in size, potentially becoming a real superstate

it's too close to call, but it's a sunny day for most of the UK.. i reckon that would make people more optimistic = vote leave

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stop being rude to me krys, you won't like me when i am angry

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He wasn't anything good anyway Emily, I can give you my Skype to make up for your loss