is the pc worth the price?

[Molly]

holy shit, i didn't even notice that

who the fuck buys a 280w psu???

that's literally suicide considering all the other parts lmao

I thought so too, but the system I built on pcpartpicker equivalent to the one he posted is estimated to use 253W.

[Salty as fuck]

I thought so too, but the system I built on pcpartpicker equivalent to the one he posted is estimated to use 253W.

the 750ti on it own requires a minimum of a 300w psu..

[Molly]

the 750ti on it own requires a minimum of a 300w psu..

Eh, this says it uses 60W. http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-750-ti/specifications

[Salty as fuck]

Eh, this says it uses 60W. http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-750-ti/specifications

I'll dumb it down since you clearly didn't seem to understand where I was going with that.

 

Yes, it does say 60w. But that is the wattage it uses while idling and absolutely nothing is going on.

In the real world, power spikes occur. Maybe the psu will use 60w, maybe 120w, maybe 140w.

Depriving any electronic of the required power is probably the stupidest thing one could do.

 

Unless he intends on leaving the computer on idle for the entirety of it's life, it will not use 60w constantly.

 

 

In short, he should just build his own computer with a 500w psu to stay on the safe side and keep future upgrades possible.

280w is absolutely in poor taste.

A. It leaves no room for upgrades.

B. It's already cutting severely close to what all the parts individually require for optimal performance.

C. A PSU should not be operating at peak wattage for plenty of reasons that I'm sure you could google since you seem to be so good at that.

Edited February 9, 2016 by Reminiscence

[Molly]

It likely is not going to see 141, there's a reason the average says 64, right around my number of 60. The idle would not be 60W, the idle would be near the minimum in that test, 12W.

 

These were results of full system power loads, not just the card, keep that in mind: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7764/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-and-gtx-750-review-maxwell/22

 

Also says 60W: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2548/geforce-gtx-750-ti.html

 

Would it be a good idea to get a better PSU to make upgrading easier? Of course, does he need one with that system? No. In fact, from what I've gathered in the last few minutes from various tech forums, everyone agrees 300W PSU is more than large enough to handle that card, meaning the 300W PSU I included in the pcpartpicker build should be fine.

 

 

Edit: You also need to bear in mind that even if for some reason that card was always drawing 141W, which is not going to happen, you still have 139W left with a 280W PSU or 159W left with a 300W PSU. Now, if for some reason, that isn't going to happen, all your other components are also drawing near their maximum power then you very well may run into an issue. Then, if for some reason, this highly unlikely scenario does happen, you will have to tone down your game's settings, or not run as many things while playing it, and the issue will be gone.

 

Edited February 9, 2016 by Molly

[WPS]

that's not a bad build actually..

 

Graphics card could be better.

[Salty as fuck]

It likely is not going to see 141, there's a reason the average says 64, right around my number of 60. The idle would not be 60W, the idle would be near the minimum in that test, 12W.

 

These were results of full system power loads, not just the card, keep that in mind: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7764/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-and-gtx-750-review-maxwell/22

 

Also says 60W: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2548/geforce-gtx-750-ti.html

 

Would it be a good idea to get a better PSU to make upgrading easier? Of course, does he need one with that system? No. In fact, from what I've gathered in the last few minutes from various tech forums, everyone agrees 300W PSU is more than large enough to handle that card, meaning the 300W PSU I included in the pcpartpicker build should be fine.

 

 

Edit: You also need to bear in mind that even if for some reason that card was always drawing 141W, which is not going to happen, you still have 139W left with a 280W PSU or 159W left with a 300W PSU. Now, if for some reason, that isn't going to happen, all your other components are also drawing near their maximum power then you very well may run into an issue. Then, if for some reason, this highly unlikely scenario does happen, you will have to tone down your game's settings, or not run as many things while playing it, and the issue will be gone.

Yet it spiked to 141w on medium settings. But no, I'm sure we'd NEVER see that happen.

12w lol, sure. Maybe you can't read your own links.

 

Oh what do we have here, higher than 141w that we'd never see? Odd how that happens. In the real world. When it happens.

Because it happens.

 

This leaves 100w for for the cpu, mobo, ram, hard drives, cpu fan, cd drive and whatever else he has.

Do you know what happens when you run a computer without enough power? Obviously not, so lemme tell you. It shuts down and you can potentially damage components.

 

Efficient loads for power supplies I believe are around 40% - 61%. What you're suggesting is a bad idea for yourself and OP because he'd obviously be going WELL above that.

 

Why limit yourself if you're going to buy an expensive computer only to run medium settings or lower? Lol.

Stop looking for reasons to justify being a cheapass about one of the absolute most important parts. It's literally 60$ for a quality 600w psu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028

 

He can even do the rebate deal and get it for 38.99.

[AresScripts]

 

Good pc?

 

Lenovo Erazer x310 i5-4460 / 8GB / 1008GB Hybrid / GTX750Ti 2GB / Win 8.1

 

 

Operating

Windows 8.1 64-bit, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Danish, English selectable during installation

 

Processor

Manufacturer Intel

Processor Core i5, 4460

Number of cores 4 cores

Speed ​​3.2 GHz (Turbo up to 3,4GHz)

 

Memory

Internal memory size 8 GB, 1x8GB

Memory DDR3, 1600MHz

Free memory 3 of them

Maximum memory 32GB

 

Hard disk

Primary disk (Boot Disk) 1 TB Hybrid drive with 8GB Flash

Connection SATA 3 to 6.0 Gbit / s, 7200rpm

 

Graphics Cards

Manufacturer Nvidia

GPU Type GeForce GTX 750 Ti

Speed ​​1020 MHz (1085 MHz Boost Clock)

Memory 2 GB GDDR5

 

Communication

Bluetooth Yes, 4.0

Network Yes, 10/100 Mbit / s

Wireless network Yes, 802.11b / g / n

 

Power supply units (PSU)

280W

 

Connections

VGA output Yes, 1st

HDMI Output Yes, 1st

USB 2.0 3 pcs, 1st front 2x rear

USB 3.0 3 pcs, 1st front 2x rear

Other ports 2x audio outputs and two mic inputs of each of the front and back

 

Measured

Width 175 mm

Depth 360 mm

Height 375 mm

Weight 9 kg

 

Other

Optical drive Yes, the SuperMulti DVD RW

Sound card Yes, High Definition Audio 5.1

Memory Card Reader Yes, SD / SDHC / SDXC / MMC

 

 

 

I want to be able to play a bit heavy games such as H1Z1, ARK etc

 

the price of the pc is 714$

 

DISCLAIMER: I am not very experienced in the hardware side of computers however I did build my current desktop more than a year ago so i have some experience

I have pretty much the same exact specs. You will be able to play whatever game you want(including H1Z1, ARK, etc...). You might not be able to play the games ultra graphics settings, but easily do medium to high

Edited February 9, 2016 by AresScripts

[Molly]

Yet it spiked to 141w on medium settings. But no, I'm sure we'd NEVER see that happen.

12w lol, sure. Maybe you can't read your own links.

 

Oh what do we have here, higher than 141w that we'd never see? Odd how that happens. In the real world. When it happens.

Because it happens.

 

This leaves 100w for for the cpu, mobo, ram, hard drives, cpu fan, cd drive and whatever else he has.

Do you know what happens when you run a computer without enough power? Obviously not, so lemme tell you. It shuts down and you can potentially damage components.

 

Efficient loads for power supplies I believe are around 40% - 61%. What you're suggesting is a bad idea for yourself and OP because he'd obviously be going WELL above that.

 

Why limit yourself if you're going to buy an expensive computer only to run medium settings or lower? Lol.

Stop looking for reasons to justify being a cheapass about one of the absolute most important parts. It's literally 60$ for a quality 600w psu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028

 

He can even do the rebate deal and get it for 38.99.

You do know that says TOTAL SYSTEM POWER CONSUMPTION, right? That includes cpu, mobo, ram, hard drives, fans, optical drives etc. Thus proving my point.  Not sure if you're trying to troll or just didn't take the time to read.

Edited February 10, 2016 by Molly

[Salty as fuck]

You do know that says TOTAL SYSTEM POWER CONSUMPTION, right? That includes cpu, mobo, ram, hard drives, fans, optical drives etc. Thus proving my point.  Not sure if you're trying to troll or just didn't take the time to read.

You're right on that one. I didn't actually bother reading after I made my point several posts ago.

280w psu's should stay back in 2004 when they were enough.

 

Still, running a psu out of it's efficiency rate will shorten it's life by a fair amount and it leaves just about no room for upgrades which, as every pc person knows, is inevitable.

 

Why cheap out on such an essential part? It really doesn't make any sense.

OP should save himself the hassle and get a modular psu with 500w or above to be safe for any upgrades.

[Caesar]

Hahaha, just save the discussion and just buy a better power supply for future proofing/just in case. You're better off spending an extra $50, or you'll regret it. 

[Salty as fuck]

Hahaha, just save the discussion and just buy a better power supply for future proofing/just in case. You're better off spending an extra $50, or you'll regret it. 

Seriously though.

I went with a 750w for my pc and never looked back.

Literally no point in cheaping out on a psu. It's beyond worth it to get something quality and future proofed.

 

[Molly]

I'm getting a 750W as well with my build that should be here this week, my point was never that he shouldn't get a bigger one, but rather its not needed with that build. I don't think future proofing is really applicable in this case because if it was wouldn't he be better off going with a mobo that is compatible with Skylake CPUs, and DDR4 RAM(assuming the mobo in his build doesn't support DDR4, can't find the model for it)? If we want to talk future proofing, he shouldn't be buying the build in question anyways. Upgrading that system is probably going to mean replacing the mobo, cpu, and ram lol. I assumed he was just looking for a cheap- medium range budget build.

Edited February 10, 2016 by Molly

[Salty as fuck]

I'm getting a 750W as well with my build that should be here this week, my point was never that he shouldn't get a bigger one, but rather its not needed with that build. I don't think future proofing is really applicable in this case because if it was wouldn't he be better off going with a mobo that is compatible with Skylake CPUs, and DDR4 RAM(assuming the mobo in his build doesn't support DDR4, can't find the model for it)? If we want to talk future proofing, he shouldn't be buying the build in question anyways. Upgrading that system is probably going to mean replacing the mobo, cpu, and ram lol.

DDR4 is pointless. It was more of a disappointment than the Bulldozer cpu's. I also doubt he has the money to throw around on the newer intel cpus.

Being that he's in Sweden, he doesn't really have many options and I think the one he posted is the most affordable. It's obvious he doesn't know much about pc's otherwise he wouldn't be asking us.

 

If I were him, I'd just save up for something better cause the one he has posted isn't all that great.

Let's be honest though, we all inevitably upgrade. He'd be shooting himself in the foot by getting the current pc in hand.

[Molly]

DDR4 is pointless. It was more of a disappointment than the Bulldozer cpu's. I also doubt he has the money to throw around on the newer intel cpus.

Being that he's in Sweden, he doesn't really have many options and I think the one he posted is the most affordable. It's obvious he doesn't know much about pc's otherwise he wouldn't be asking us.

 

If I were him, I'd just save up for something better cause the one he has posted isn't all that great.

Let's be honest though, we all inevitably upgrade. He'd be shooting himself in the foot by getting the current pc in hand.

It's pointless currently, agreed. I'm of the same opinion as you, I wouldn't buy that I'd save a bit more and get something better because while yes, we all upgrade, getting that system is going to make upgrading very expensive because of what all you'd likely be replacing.