Vag Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Hey, I was bored, so I decided to prove, how easy it is to rig a dicing system on a gambling site. This can be used to control the "random" seed also, but it's way too complex maths for a drunken me.. Anyways, here comes the basics. <?php $number1 = rand(1, 50); $number2 = rand(1, 50); $number3 = rand(1, 26); $number4 = rand(1, 26); $final = $number1 + $number2; $bet = rand(300, 500); if ($bet >340) { $final2 = $number3 + $number4; } ?> <html> <head> <title>Rigged dice</title> <head> <body> <p>The actual number rolled: <?php echo $final; ?></p><br/> <p>Rigged number, because bet is too high: <?php echo $final2; ?></p><br/> <p>Bet (if over 340, then rigged number can not be higher than 52): <?php echo $bet; ?></p><br/> <p></p><br/> <p></p><br/> </body> </html> To see what I mean, visit this site and refresh the page until the actual number (final1 and 2) are bigger than the rigged number. The rigged number kicks in when bet (generated randomly) is higher than 340. Thank-you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 so they have more % chances for profits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primitivley Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 i knew it was bullshit after never cashing out and always depositing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vag Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 Just wanted to demonstrate how it works. Also you could make $final as global, so you can change it's value if the conditions are met. One other thing I discovered is the following: $percentageWeScam = rand(1, 10); if($percentageWeScam <2) { //This would make the $number3 and $number4 left used 1/10 times when the conditions for rigging is met. This just to make the dicing look more legit. } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Yeah no surprise here. Just like IRL gambling machines, it's not called 'gambling' for nothing. I suppose with dicing you'd expect the odds to be somewhat decent, I wouldn't trust any of these sites anyway, If I were them I'd rig the game aswell :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathy Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Just the names "fishy" "smite ur bgs" "win all day" on that dicing advertisment are enough to Make any1 not want to click it, nevermind knowing the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonmw420 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 What about dice with provably fair system? I've never dealt with a site without this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathy Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 What about dice with provably fair system? I've never dealt with a site without this. You are easily manipulated then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonmw420 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) You are easily manipulated then I don't dice I play poker and profit quite well from it however I believe you're speaking from an uneducated point of view. If you are aware of how the system works and can give insight on how they cheat you I'll gladly admit I'm wrong. To my understanding though they give you an encrypted hash before rolling the die and you enter in your own value then they use the two to generate the roll, at which point you can verify that the result matches up with what was displayed prior to the bet. Edited September 24, 2015 by brandonmw420 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemons Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 If its online, always make sure its provably fair! http://provablyfair.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stixx Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) I don't dice I play poker and profit quite well from it however I believe you're speaking from an uneducated point of view. If you are aware of how the system works and can give insight on how they cheat you I'll gladly admit I'm wrong. To my understanding though they give you an encrypted hash before rolling the die and you enter in your own value then they use the two to generate the roll, at which point you can verify that the result matches up with what was displayed prior to the bet. Poker isn't run through the same system as dice are btw. You are not being cheated on poker games when you play human v human as it would be very obvious if the game were rigged towards one player. Edited September 24, 2015 by Stixx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathy Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I don't dice I play poker and profit quite well from it however I believe you're speaking from an uneducated point of view. If you are aware of how the system works and can give insight on how they cheat you I'll gladly admit I'm wrong. To my understanding though they give you an encrypted hash before rolling the die and you enter in your own value then they use the two to generate the roll, at which point you can verify that the result matches up with what was displayed prior to the bet. Poker is nothing like dicing? Poker is like 70% luck 30% skill, I myself took about 6bil off BBB noobs at its peak. Its not hard to take stacks of gp off 15 year olds who go all in with anything higher than a Jack. Poker doesnt have the same mechanics as dicing. Unless you played 1v1 against a host. Why would you even mention card poker on a thread talking about rigged dicing anyway? If you are that gullable to big words thrown at you by hosts then you are too easily manipulated as i said before. You clearly have some Sort of past experiance which haunts you deeply. How much did you lose to a dicer who convinced you to go big? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonmw420 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Poker isn't run through the same system as dice are btw. You are not being cheated on poker games when you play human v human as it would be very obvious if the game were rigged towards one player. Agreed never said it was. Poker is nothing like dicing? Poker is like 70% luck 30% skill, I myself took about 6bil off BBB noobs at its peak. Its not hard to take stacks of gp off 15 year olds who go all in with anything higher than a Jack. Poker doesnt have the same mechanics as dicing. Unless you played 1v1 against a host. Why would you even mention card poker on a thread talking about rigged dicing anyway? If you are that gullable to big words thrown at you by hosts then you are too easily manipulated as i said before. You clearly have some Sort of past experiance which haunts you deeply. How much did you lose to a dicer who convinced you to go big? Lol you've proven just clearly either howyou are young, uneducated, or both. Never said poker was like dicing. Again I don't dice but if you wanna just say I'm wrong with no way to back up your claim I understand. It's generally what the uneducated do . P.S. provable isn't a very big word Edited September 24, 2015 by brandonmw420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Honestly, i would rather go to a casino and win real cash. That way if you win you can choose to as much gp as you wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonmw420 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Honestly, i would rather go to a casino and win real cash. That way if you win you can choose to as much gp as you wish. Yeah this way is nice cause free tournaments = no risk. I then usually budget my free daily winning as my daily allotment to gamble in ring games. Then bots are running in background, so at end of day I'm either up a little or up a lot, no way to lose lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
