Mistamo Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 8) Seeing as enigma has not been online for 2 days without any explanation as to why hes gone, I would assume that he was the one who originally asked for the account to be locked seeing as he was the original owner, and then asked on this dispute for help because the account recovery page wasn't working for him. After @Scotty gave him an answer on how to fix it, assuming it worked, he no longer needed help fixing it and was able to proceed with the account recovery and now most likely has his original account back with no plans on giving it to Mistamo. My best guess if he doesn't reply to this dispute was that enigma, who throughout this whole thread was made to be the one who was simply dragged into this whole mess, was the one behind the account getting locked, and presumably now recovered and back under his possession. I honestly don't think Enigma would do that. He hasn't been on skype or anything, but that doesn't mean he's the one behind this. I see how it could be thought of in that way though. I dunno, I think we should have a deadline in which people need to meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraenigma Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 sorry had alot going on this weekend havent been on the pc at all. i tryed to unlock and am now waiting. the account is still locked as far as i know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraenigma Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 After reading this whole thing, here's what I've put together. Either post this or not. 1) Enigma had a maxed account which was sold to Impassive whenever that transaction occurred. 2) Impassive used the account. 3) Impassive decided to sell the account on PA which Mistamo bought 4) Mistamo started using the account 5) Account gets locked and Mistamo makes a dispute on PA 6) A dispute then gets made on OSBot 7) After this dispute, Mistamo agrees to cancel the PA dispute after being told by enigma he will recover the account for him so Mistamo will again get the account he payed for back in his possession and Impassive will get the $350 for selling the account. 8) Seeing as enigma has not been online for 2 days without any explanation as to why hes gone, I would assume that he was the one who originally asked for the account to be locked seeing as he was the original owner, and then asked on this dispute for help because the account recovery page wasn't working for him. After @Scotty gave him an answer on how to fix it, assuming it worked, he no longer needed help fixing it and was able to proceed with the account recovery and now most likely has his original account back with no plans on giving it to Mistamo. My best guess if he doesn't reply to this dispute was that enigma, who throughout this whole thread was made to be the one who was simply dragged into this whole mess, was the one behind the account getting locked, and presumably now recovered and back under his possession. yes you got me. i sold an account only to wait weeks to lock it. when it was locked and i was asked to unlock i did, then sent them both here and spent tons of my time in the first dispute unltill mista got frustrated and left. then i recovered the account gave back to impassive (hes had active email and pass scince 17th of july) only to immedatly get it locked and wait 2 weeks for mista to complain about the p/a dispute(becuase i know the future). I then directed them both here and spent more hours of my time again to try and a mods decision only to complain about a java issue ive had and get it resolved so i can steal the account. 1. you noticed how long i was offline so i had obviosly not seen scotty's post 2. people do shit on weekends im here as a curtisy as far as im concerend i have no more responsiblitly to this account as its been resold 3. why would i not keep the account after the first recovery or post on rs or java forums for help with my java issue, also i tryed what scotty said and got a different error but mista walked me through it. now that that idiots dealt with for accual important stuff if i understand dex's decision i am to recover the account and return to mistamoo and from then on only deal with recovery requeast from mista directly if i am missing anything let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impassive Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 After reading this whole thing, here's what I've put together. Either post this or not. 1) Enigma had a maxed account which was sold to Impassive whenever that transaction occurred. 2) Impassive used the account. 3) Impassive decided to sell the account on PA which Mistamo bought 4) Mistamo started using the account 5) Account gets locked and Mistamo makes a dispute on PA 6) A dispute then gets made on OSBot 7) After this dispute, Mistamo agrees to cancel the PA dispute after being told by enigma he will recover the account for him so Mistamo will again get the account he payed for back in his possession and Impassive will get the $350 for selling the account. 8) Seeing as enigma has not been online for 2 days without any explanation as to why hes gone, I would assume that he was the one who originally asked for the account to be locked seeing as he was the original owner, and then asked on this dispute for help because the account recovery page wasn't working for him. After @Scotty gave him an answer on how to fix it, assuming it worked, he no longer needed help fixing it and was able to proceed with the account recovery and now most likely has his original account back with no plans on giving it to Mistamo. My best guess if he doesn't reply to this dispute was that enigma, who throughout this whole thread was made to be the one who was simply dragged into this whole mess, was the one behind the account getting locked, and presumably now recovered and back under his possession. After considering this, I realized after I got the account when Mistamo opened the PA dispute, the account was locked before Mistamo started the osbot dispute(as shown by my first post here)... Mistamo can't lock it and I obviously wouldn't since I had it... I thought Engima was legit but it seems he's taking advantage of the situation. He first said there was a fury on the acc when he recovered for me and Mistamo said he'll dispute on PA, so engima gave me the acc. But there was a glory on it, and I sent him a msg as soon as i logged in and never ever got a reply (for a week) before this dispute started. Also I logged onto the account with no bank pin, he recovered and waited it out before handing it back to me. Of course I don't know what was in there since it was Mistamo's bank(which is probably why Engima thought he could get away with it easily), but you can go on the old dispute and see him stall before giving it to me, saying he has work after like days of recovering the account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dex Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Let's all calm down and let @extraenigma recover the account. yes you got me. i sold an account only to wait weeks to lock it. when it was locked and i was asked to unlock i did, then sent them both here and spent tons of my time in the first dispute unltill mista got frustrated and left. then i recovered the account gave back to impassive (hes had active email and pass scince 17th of july) only to immedatly get it locked and wait 2 weeks for mista to complain about the p/a dispute(becuase i know the future). I then directed them both here and spent more hours of my time again to try and a mods decision only to complain about a java issue ive had and get it resolved so i can steal the account. 1. you noticed how long i was offline so i had obviosly not seen scotty's post 2. people do shit on weekends im here as a curtisy as far as im concerend i have no more responsiblitly to this account as its been resold 3. why would i not keep the account after the first recovery or post on rs or java forums for help with my java issue, also i tryed what scotty said and got a different error but mista walked me through it. now that that idiots dealt with for accual important stuff if i understand dex's decision i am to recover the account and return to mistamoo and from then on only deal with recovery requeast from mista directly if i am missing anything let me know Has any progress been made on the recovery in the meantime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistamo Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Before Impassive had the account returned to him, I also had about 20-30m bank from staking that I made on my own. I'll be very disappointed if that's all gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impassive Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Before Impassive had the account returned to him, I also had about 20-30m bank from staking that I made on my own. I'll be very disappointed if that's all gone. It is. I logged in with no pin, and fury gone. I asked about the fury as you can see as soon as I logged in acc, but he never replied to me for i think 3-4+ days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistamo Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Enigma has recovered the account for me. He has complied with everything I've asked of him, and I'm very appreciative of that. Impassive, the account has a bank pin on it that isn't mine, so I'm assuming everything I had on the account is gone. Would you PM me the bank pin so I don't have to wait 7 days? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraenigma Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 resovled. mistamoo now has the account back i have not logged in he can confirm last login date. as for the fury it was on the account when i gave to impassive. I am not sure if the bp timer was up, it very well could have been but i dont know what was in bank i didnt look. i stated cleary the items on the account i had no intention of and did not take any items from it. he did sent me this message via skype ill upload if needed. [7/17/2014 9:44:27 PM] ExtraEnigma: ty no worries[7/17/2014 9:46:07 PM] ExtraEnigma: im out for a while[7/17/2014 9:46:24 PM] Richie: alright man [7/17/2014 9:47:28 PM] Richie: yo[7/17/2014 10:16:43 PM] Richie: where'd dat fury go? ;) . i set up everythin, so u shud never be bothered with this again :P. thank you again. 30mins after i told him i was leaving and followed by a smiley and a thank you when i saw it a week later i thought it was a joke. i didnt log on skype for a week because i only use it for market (rarely), and keep up with old friends that no longer scape or i know from other games (even more rare). he had the account, locked or not, 2weeks and didnt say anything and tried to collect on a ppal dispute claiming mistamoo had the account. i could unlock easily if he had requested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impassive Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 PMed the pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impassive Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 If there was a fury on it, I wouldn't message you as soon as I logged in about where it is. Lol. Anyway it doesn't matter. I imagine this dispute can now be closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 hey i hoped my java security skills helped, but good job all round guys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dex Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Enigma has recovered the account for me. He has complied with everything I've asked of him, and I'm very appreciative of that. Impassive, the account has a bank pin on it that isn't mine, so I'm assuming everything I had on the account is gone. Would you PM me the bank pin so I don't have to wait 7 days? Thanks. Does the bank pin @Impassive pm'd you work? If any items disappeared from the account I'll have to see some evidence regarding that first, otherwise nobody can be held accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistamo Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 I have a picture of what I had on the account before it was locked and returned to Impassive. I can even have Enigma vouch that I at least had a whip and fury on my account. He may even vouch for everything that was in the bank since he had the account after the pin was off. Here are before and after pictures of the bank. If you look at the capes and see how everything is organized, you can see some resemblance. Before Impassive got the account - After I received the account last night & the bank pin from Impassive - Look at all the items in the bank tab and you can tell it's the same bank, I'm not trying to pull any crap. He took all the valuables and didn't play on the account after that. I didn't expect my items to be on there, but I think it's pretty crappy that he took everything I worked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impassive Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Before he starts boasting about a 30M bank, he gave permission to keep everything on the account. The only notable things I got were tentacle, dlegs, d boots, warrior ring. Maybe obby cape, but i don't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...