extraenigma Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 You can get any account locked of u know the login and provide some other details that u would have, not gunna share how but its not hard when an accounts been sold or stolen. My sugestion would to ask for a final resolution on pa both saying you have no other evidence then if refunded I can give to rich or if not then give to mista. The reason I asked each of u here is because I'm involed at this point and have no standing or acc on pa. Tbh I'm confused as hell every time I think I know who's scamming something new pops up. Got a late invite to a concert tonight so won't be home till around midnight PST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistamo Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Or, simply tell PlayerAuctions that you do have the account and tell them they can refund me. Either or is fine with me. You can't have both money and account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraenigma Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 home for a second then leaving for concert i re read all evidence and have no real idea who is lying, anyways i will check if the account is locked and try to recover tonight when i get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistamo Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Also, the picture that you show the account being locked in doesn't make sense. You say you don't have the account, correct? Well, you obviously have the correct password to log in to that account. Even if it is locked somehow, you still have the password used to log in. So, you do in fact have the account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Well this has gone awry. I'm going to make everyone's job easier and request that each of you involved in the dispute fill out the template here and post it in this thread. Try to be as short and to the point as you can to make it clear and understandable. Thanks so much! Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistamo Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Disputed member: Impassive Thread Link: https://www.playerauctions.com/member/myorderdetail/?orderid=1259887 Explanation: Short and simple like Jordan asked - I purchased an account from Impassive off of PlayerAuctions for $350.00 with a 1 year insurance package. The account was locked, I filed a dispute with PlayerAuctions. Enigma recovered the account for Impassive since he's the original owner. PlayerAuctions denied me a refund due to lack of information saying Impassive has the account. Impassive has the account and the money I paid him for the account and I have nothing. Evidence: Everything I just typed can be found in my original post as well as Impassive's posts. He says he doesn't have the account but Enigma can confirm that he gave him the account. And when Impassive posted a picture of the account being locked, claiming he doesn't have it, that's a lie. Even if the account is locked, he knows the password. If he didn't have the account and the password, it would simply say invalid username or password. Long story short, Impassive has my account and the money I paid him for it. So, I'd like the account returned to me. Or, he can simply tell PlayerAuctions that he does have the account and then I can continue with my refund and he can keep the account. Either or will suffice with me. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Disputed member: Impassive Thread Link: https://www.playerauctions.com/member/myorderdetail/?orderid=1259887 Explanation: Short and simple like Jordan asked - I purchased an account from Impassive off of PlayerAuctions for $350.00 with a 1 year insurance package. The account was locked, I filed a dispute with PlayerAuctions. Enigma recovered the account for Impassive since he's the original owner. PlayerAuctions denied me a refund due to lack of information saying Impassive has the account. Impassive has the account and the money I paid him for the account and I have nothing. Evidence: Everything I just typed can be found in my original post as well as Impassive's posts. He says he doesn't have the account but Enigma can confirm that he gave him the account. And when Impassive posted a picture of the account being locked, claiming he doesn't have it, that's a lie. Even if the account is locked, he knows the password. If he didn't have the account and the password, it would simply say invalid username or password. Long story short, Impassive has my account and the money I paid him for it. So, I'd like the account returned to me. Or, he can simply tell PlayerAuctions that he does have the account and then I can continue with my refund and he can keep the account. Either or will suffice with me. Thanks. That's what I'm looking for! I'll look into everything now. Thanks a bunch ^_^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impassive Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I spent over an hour making my first post on this thread... It has tons of evidence so it's not fair if it's just overlooked. Nonetheless, I'll provide a short summary like you asked. Explanation: I sold the account on PA like Mistamo is saying. However, it has a 1 year insurance package on it. This means that he can get his money back. He's saying his refund request is denied but you can look at the email he showed, and it's clear the ruling is not final. Insurance is insurance, it means he can get his money back(feel free to go on PA site and look at insurance policy). What I suggest is he is waiting to get the account back, and then go forth with the PA dispute to refund his money to keep both the account and money. I don't have the account, if you want to teamview or skype screenshare, I will do that and show you if my screenshots aren't enough(PM me for teamview info or whatever you'd like to use if you want to forth with that). I'm not the original owner so I can't even unlock it(I bought it originally from Engima). Please don't just ignore my other posts though. Evidence: My first post on this thread I have evidence of everything I claimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistamo Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Am I magically going to get more evidence to continue with the refund? If I have the account in my possession, everything will be fine. YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH ACCOUNT AND MONEY. Ok? Ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistamo Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 What I don't understand is why you keep telling PlayerAuctions that you don't have the account therefore causing me to not get a refund. If we could please speed this process up, I'd appreciate that. It's been over 2 weeks since I've had access to my account. I'm impatient and already frustrated over this situation. If he would just give me the account back so I can cancel the PlayerAuctions dispute. I would post evidence of me canceling the dispute. Or, if he would simply help me in getting my refund. I honestly don't care at the moment. I just want something out of this and as it is right now, I have nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impassive Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Am I magically going to get more evidence to continue with the refund? If I have the account in my possession, everything will be fine. YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH ACCOUNT AND MONEY. Ok? Ok. Lol, I'm not willing to risk $350 on someone who impersonates official reps. What happens if you get the account and then you are refunded your money? I read the insurance policy and invite everyone involved in this case to do so... The buyer can't be scammed lol. Also, I don't have the account, and like I've offered mods, I'll screen share in case my screenshot isn't enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraenigma Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) my java wont run the unlock page for some reason it lets me enter username and catpcha then next page i get these two errors On Internet explorer On FireFox i get no run prompt Java is updated if anyone can help me with this i can get started on recovering the account not sure if it matter but im running 64bit vista. also impassive is claiming the account is locked and mista claiming to not have access, so i assume i should recover but would be nice to hear it from a mod or both impassive and mista as im not really sure how this is supposed to go from here. i have no real evidence to display and my story at this point is just regurgitating what each of them is saying to me. once im cleared to recover the account and give to decided rightful owner i will. until then i will probably not post here unless requested. if i can loose the TWC it would be nice since im not being accused of scamming here just the original owner trying to mediate a transaction that i was not involved in, and also was the one who asked them to post here on both disputes. This is the second time ive been in dispute section on a transaction that i wasnt involved in i dont blame either party as i know it need to be worked out and i know OSB staff wants to protect its users. i have been helpful as i can be on both disputes and i dont think either of them is disputing me here, im just the previous owner trying to help. if i never told them to work it out here (what i thought was the right thing) id not be in the dispute section twice and not have a twc. im just trying to help and am really starting to regret it this has taken hours of my time, longer than it took to sell the account originally which went smoothly and nothing happened until the second sale. Edited August 1, 2014 by extraenigma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistamo Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 From what Impassive posted, the account is locked. He still has the password though. I don't have the account or money. How is this even fair? Him having both and me having nothing at all. If a mod would please make a decision it would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impassive Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I agree that there is no reason for engima to be in TWC. I bought it from him and it was a smooth process and we encountered no problems until I resold it. No one is even accusing him... He's just been dragged into it again. I also don't understand why I am in TWC given my first post on this thread. I provided evidence of every single thing I've claimed. Just because someone disputes another and puts up a few screenshots doesn't automatically mean the users in question should be put in TWC... Honestly, this whole dispute could be understood from the proof I posted about the OP impersonating a PA rep. Think about it. Someone that's innocent wouldn't try solving the dispute with illegal ways. They'd file a dispute and have staff look at the situation so they can have whatever they want at ease. He put himself at risk because he is a scammer. Who would drop $1k usd on rs accounts in under a month? Obviously some fishy shit is going down when you put the pieces together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistamo Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 LOL, $1,000? I have spent no where close to that amount. Can you not do numbers either? And once again, why should money be apart of this? You base your argument off of silly things. What all it boils down to is you having both account and the money I paid for it. Why would you not just tell PlayerAuctions that you have the account instead of lying and saying you don't? Why not admit that you have been keeping me from playing on my account or keeping me from receiving a refund? This would've been over so much longer if you would've not been a pain in my ass and actually cooperated instead of deleting me off skype and hiding away. Obviously some fishy shit is going down when you put the pieces together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
