highball Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Thesis Statement: In this suggestion I will go over a few things that would prove to be positive for our community if the site became a private - invite ONLY site. I will touch base with what I have seen done on other sites as well as why I feel that it would help strengthen us as a community. Community: This is the key to success on any forum that you visit. We drive the forum and possess the power to encourage a great foundation and site. With out 'its' community, no forum would grow, let alone survive; so it is us who ultimately decide the fate of this site, and it is us who choose how we want things done (to a certain extent). Power: The one thing that is held dear by our sites creators and those who decide what is ultimately implemented into the site. This goes hand in hand with leadership. Leadership: This is displayed by many, but is truly owned by few. Very few people know how to lead, not because they aren't bad, but because its a tough gig, and someone has to do it. For better or for worse a Leader is only as good as his community see him, and with out a fair community a leader is often despised and or thrown over. (; It is my true believe that in order for use as a community to grow and prosper, we need to not only recruit high officials from other sites, but simply the best of the best. We need dedicated advocating people, who want this site, and this site alone to be the best 07Bot there is. I know that I don't speak for myself, when I say downtime is a bummer, and lack of scripts is even worse, this is why I have chosen to propose this idea. I have seen many sites come and go, and not only botting sites. I've seen sites that have been "Invite only (private)" sites and I have been invited to some. Most of the sites that I speak of are Torrent sites, but these forums have some of the best and strongest communities out there. The often carry the newest and best programs out there, but the catch is, you must be invited and if you haven't been you are not even allowed to view the content, let alone download it. The reason why I feel that this would be a positive step forward is because it would limit the amount of members, as well as the amount of gold farming. If we where able to recruit members who could develop top notch scripts (premium quality) we could charge lower fees on scripts, as well as help keep out rift-raft (eg. kids with 1 post who go around scamming/spamming up the forums). It not only would prevent these often annoying acts, but would also create a better and safer environment which would ultimately strengthen our community. This is my vision, take it as you will...But don't be too quick to judge, simply offer an opinion as well as a better suggestion and I will either agree and/or counter it. But essentially this is how I feel this should be handled (if it is even considered). OSBot stays open and public for a month or so, it builds its trust as well as its credibility with the RS botting community and proves to be a awesome bot. With steady updates and more traffic rolling in, the forum mods and staff then look towards my suggestion. If the site and client is proven to be better than most, have a test run with invite only. Simply see how much less spam is created as well how much better of a community we may become. Essentially the only way to both download the client and run its scripts, is if someone who was already a member, and has been a member for X amount of time (1-2months) invites you via email. If you are invited you then are limited as to how many scripts you may use at one time (lets say 1 bot for new members), those who have been here for 4-8 months are allowed to use 2 bots, and those who have been here for more than a year are allotted 3-4 bots. This would not only benefit those who are veterans, but also cut back on those who choose to gold farm. Trust me I have nothing against gold farming for your enjoyment of the game, it is those who run hundreds of bots on VPS in order to sell gold at the lowest possible rate and crash the economy who I am worried about. Any ways, there are many positives that could come from this, for instance releasing of site specific scripts (first slayer script), and any other ideas that may come to mind. Forgive me if this seems like I'm rambling...(I am its 5am)...But I will critique this tomorrow and make it easier to understand with better points/suggestions/reasoning. Thanks for reading - Highball 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle1 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I don't know if I necessarily agree, but these things aren't up to me. I can see what you are saying, and I can see how it would work, but I am a realist and like to look at both sides before choosing. With this option in place, we will see less members. And to be honest, less members means less reward for the scriptors and developers of the site. I know most people are not in it for the reward, but they still deserve some. My counter suggestion- Keep scripts open/buyable to the public. But add a special rank to which the Admins add you to it. This rank is no ordinary rank, it's one that shows you are loyal, and have stuck with the site through everything. This section gets access to special scripts that you would normally have to buy. But they get it at a very low/cut rate. This could be a way for the creators to say thanks to specific members for sticking with them. My idea would assume that we have 1,000+ active members with a very active community. I thank you highball for your suggestion to the community. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kati2 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I couldn't see this happening anytime soon. Possible a very, very slim chance sometime in the future, however there are no plans for it. This would prove to have some positive impact on our community if it were the way we wanted to handle things. We want to big a large, open community. Thanks for the well-thought out post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I'd rather have a large community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ori Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) It really boils down to how long do you want this community to stay a float. Lots of valid points being brought to light by the OP, and I have to say I agree. Look at wBot, as it might suck to be constantly compared to a different service, I just wanted to make it clear that all of the popular bots were only spread around through word of mouth; and look at what happened. (Also; this website is still pretty underground, I've only seen it mentioned ONE other time and I constantly check p****bot and other sites like that to see what the word is on wBot/ other services, so there is still ample time to make a change. The wBot community actually increased it's population by 10x the regular amount, from like 50 regular users to well over 8 THOUSAND. This, inevitably led to the wbots demise, with popularity comes notice; and Jagex definitely took notice. If you guys decide to not make this limited, which ofc is up to you (and I don't mean to try and sway your decision, after all I have only one post and I am fairly new here and have only really been lurking.) you will eventually lose this community, because Jag will sue you and have you in litigations until god knows when.. However, there are safety measures that can be put in place. Disclaimers, which for some reason wBot refused to include on their homepage, legally banning any Jagex working/affiliate from entering the website. Also, I'm not sure if invite ONLY would work, cause it just causes awful behaviour and ego trips for some people; however I feel that limiting the amount of sign-ups per month would really help in keeping the service alive, again thinking about longevity here. It's nice to bot for two weeks, but it's really nice to be able to log your bot with out worry the devs were sued or anything of the like. Again, I'm still fairly new here and I've really only chatted in the shout box, so that's just my two cents. Edited March 27, 2013 by Ori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highball Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 Thanks for the replies guys! Yes I understand where you all are coming from, because I too a realist. I figured it could work if the community became well known enough, kinda like a VIP type deal, eg. Like being invited to party on the top floor of a hotel in Vegas, or only being able to get into a specific bar in Chicago, because you know someone. But as I said, just an idea, and I honestly know it would never happen, but its food for thought (= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle1 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Thanks for the replies guys! Yes I understand where you all are coming from, because I too a realist. I figured it could work if the community became well known enough, kinda like a VIP type deal, eg. Like being invited to party on the top floor of a hotel in Vegas, or only being able to get into a specific bar in Chicago, because you know someone. But as I said, just an idea, and I honestly know it would never happen, but its food for thought (= We thank you of course for your input. Suggestions always help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highball Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 ^ they get the ball rolling and those little gears in our heads to move. I tend to think outside the box, and hope to add more suggestions to help promote the well being of this community =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Less ppl = less money, so NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
