I don't think you really get it. First off, quit marking him as a symbol of hate. You're trying to look like an open minded thinker here, but that is not the case. I can deny that and - for the 3rd time, if you read the thread, at the part of Extreme nationalism, you would maybe, just maybe understand it a bit more. 

 

Hitler and the swastika are widely considered as symbols of hate.

Same way the pentagram is the symbol of the devil, does that mean the pentagram is related to the devil in any way? No.

The majority agrees that they are. So they are. 

 

You have read Mein Kampf? It doesn't seem so, honestly.

 

The fact they you keep saying that Hitler wasn't a racist makes me think the same about you.

It's full of flawed historical reasoning caused by racist thoughts.

 

And so what if you live 30 minutes away from a 'concentration camp'. I'm not going to go in the concentration camps in this very topic, but you can lose anytime you want, been in such debates for over 3 years now and I found out that it is not worth of even trying to debate about it, at the very end you get called all these names and that's about it.

 

Please do. 

 

Are you going to deny they existed despite the fact that I've actually visited in several off them?

 

Are you going to deny they existed despite the video footage, pictures and documents?

 

Are you going to deny they were horrible despite the fact that I personally know survivors and heard their stories?

 

Are you going to claim those very same survivors are part of a huge conspiracy?

 

 

 

You do realize that there was a war? You do realize that the soldiers had to be fed and there was a shortage of food all over the Germany? I would prioritize as Hitler did. There is the first reason for the "mass murdering". 

 

What do you mean prioritize as Hitler did?

Jews first?

Being Jew isn't a nationality in case you didn't know. Here we have our first proof or religious discrimination.

 

 

 

The second part is typhus. Go look it up. Typhus is a deadly disease that was spread around the camps and has murdered quite A LOT of people. Indeed, typhus, not guns. Either way, you do also realize that Zyklon-B is a disinfection chemical and was used for DISINFECTING CLOTHES, to prevent typhus and not for gassings?

 

Just because the main purpose of Zyklon-B isn't genocide doesn't mean it can't be used for it.

Your argument is so flawed, it's like saying you couldn't die from drinking bleach because it's used to whiten cloth. 

 

In the prions (also known to us as concentration camps) were put the outlaws, the ex-plutocracy, the ex-oligarchy, the sympathizers with the communist and capitalist regime, the Freemasons and overall the political enemies. No, they did not go around, picking people, saying they need to go in a camp because they're not white enough or whatever you believe. Even here, in Slovenia, they claim that. It has to be said that the gypsies were also put in there, because they were to be relocated from Europe, they come from Asia. Not to be killed.

 

You are so wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges

 

All of this were confessed in the Nuremberg trials. You do realize the most impact was made by the Auschwitz leader, about all the atrocities? He himself said that, but was all that truth? Why would he say that if he knew that he'll be killed for it? 

 

He confessed because there was no point in denying with all the evidence.

He was caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He managed to avoid a few grams of additional shame that's why.

 

Hmm. That's the origin of the mass murders, before that point it was not in existence.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history

 

Who do I think is responsible for holocaust? The war. You claimed that  "their non existence proves nothing however." and yet the holocaust was never really.. you know.. proven. You're digging your own grave (argument wise, just to be sure you don't misunderstand this, lol).

 

Holocaust denial spotted.

You know, some people survived it... that's how we got to know about it in the first place.

inb4jewconspiracytheories

 

And as for the last part.. Read Nietzsche's Thus spoke Zarathustra and about the Übermensch. That is the strive. You do not know anything about national socialism, for the 3rd time now.

 

I've read it, do you know Nietzsche hated the Nazi regime?

The ubermensch has absolutely nothing to do with the nazi regime, they transformed it into the uberrace.

 

That work is a critique of man's weakness essentialy, not about the supremacy of a certain race or nationality.

Try reading it again, but take of your nazi glasses next time.

 

And yes, racial supremacy is racism, indeed. And yet there was no such thing in national socialism.

 

National supremacy is racism. 

There's a line between national supremacy and patriotism.

 

Edited April 25, 201411 yr by Botrepreneur

 

I've read it, do you know Nietzsche hated the Nazi regime?

 

 

You have proven that you're not worth of debating, throwing random bullshit and wikipedia links.

 

Apparently Nietzsche lived 155 years, according to your logic. Have I said not to talk about shit you do not know anything about? I think I have and yet you ignored that and most of the facts I gave you and just coming back with some random replies as this one. If you can not stay on topic, do not even try to be on that topic. Case closed, you wasted enough of my time, I'll rather go now talk to my beautiful wall. White supremacy, you sir are a bit too much under the influence of the, you know, Hollywood. And yet you asked why I mentioned Schindler's list. Hah. Anyway, was nice talk to you, even though it was more like one way situational debate, but you know. Cheers.

 

 

"The ubermensch has absolutely nothing to do with the nazi regime, they transformed it into the uberrace."

 

yep

 

 

 

"What do you mean prioritize as Hitler did?

Jews first?

Being Jew isn't a nationality in case you didn't know. Here we have our first proof or religious discrimination."

 

Being a Jew IS a nationality. Go check some quotes from Talmud and tell that to a Jew in the Israel, you'll get beaten up.

 

I am literally facepalming at how stupid I was to even try to debate on here.

Edited April 25, 201411 yr by snaes

Sorry, I meant that Nietzsche would have hated to see his philosophy being recycled like this.

His works were heavily adapted by his sister (which he hated) and her antisemitic husband for nazi propaganda purposes.

Antisemitism was around before WW2 and Nietzsche hated any form of racism, he wanted the whole human race to be stronger and regretted that it wasn't.

 

I think I have and yet you ignored that and most of the facts I gave you and just coming back with some random replies as this one

 

I reply directly to your claims, see my post above, wtf are you talking about?

You have failed to reply to any of my previous questions (still laughing at you Zyklon-B argument).

You are the one coming back with random replies and gifs.

 

Also, this thread is useless because:

National socialsm is never coming back

 

 

Edited April 25, 201411 yr by Botrepreneur

Sorry, I meant that Nietzsche would have hated to see his philosophy being recycled likethis.

Why? His works were recycled via his sister (which he hated) and here antisemitic husband.

He died ~20 years before the Nazi party's birth. 

 

 

Judaism is a religion in case you didn't know that.

You have failed to reply to any of my previous questions.

You are the one coming back with random replies and gifs.

 

David Irving is your god isn't he?

 

You do not know what you're talking about, for the last time. Judaism is more than just a religion. You have no knowledge on it, otherwise you would not be saying that whatsoever. And you came up with the subjectivity of triumph, then you're claiming that "Nietzsche would have hated to see his philosophy [..]". So you're creating the subjective into objective, interesting concept along with your understanding of his philosophy, well, rather your pseudo understanding of his philosophy. Yes, I know that you have read all of his works, also Schmitts' and so forth, yes, you have read Mein Kampf even though you do not have a clue what you're talking about. And yes, it was so hard to go on wikipedia and search for his date of death, great job mate, I'm proud of you. And you started marking people antisemitic, typical argument-less idiot, which is trying, but yet he's failing, to show some knowledge. I haven't failed to reply to 'all' your previous questions, the rest of it was, well, random. There comes the irony of yours, calling me the one 'who's coming back with random replies and gifs'. You do realize that your first post was a complete random reply? And the gifs are there, as one with proper brain would know, to express my emotions and it's literal.

 

David Irving is one of the most respected and most educated historian on world war 2 material. You're hilarious with your arguments. 

 

If you want to use a _____pedia, go to http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

 

Also, this thread is useless because:

National socialsm is never coming back

 

You're about to hit the climax of your hypocrisy and stupidity, keep going.  

 

 

 

 

And since you, apparently, want me to debunk you "argument" on zyklon B:

"Just because the main purpose of Zyklon-B isn't genocide doesn't mean it can't be used for it.

Your argument is so flawed, it's like saying you couldn't die from drinking bleach because it's used to whiten cloth."

 

Let me quote you "You weren't there, how do you know". I, as well as that it's used for DISINFECTION, said that there is no evidence of it, being used for genocidal purposes. Besides, it's actually quite expensive, only idiots like you would use it to kill people with.

 

You haven't replied on VAST majority of my arguments, but then again, I already realized how hypocritical you are. 

 

I know you won't watch this and it's quite pointless to post such things, but whatever;

 

Edited April 25, 201411 yr by snaes

Please consider rewriting your reply as I've edited my previous post, which might have cleared up a couple of things.

I'll love to talk to you, even though it's pointless via a PM or Skype. I'd love to hear all of your arguments and discuss them. But I have already acknowledged your hypocrisy, arrogance and baseless facts.

 

 

Sorry, but I can not take you serious after what you said on Judaism, on Nietzsche, on white supremacy and whatnot.

 

Sorry, but it is true. Live in dark if you want, I only wanted to help. But here is a video of the people of your kind;

 

 

 

Do you see yourself in the video?

Oh and by the way. Swastika is the holiest symbol of the Aryan race (That is the Europeans, ancient Asians and ancient Indians). You do not know what you're talking about mate.

Edited April 25, 201411 yr by snaes

Just because it has the word truth in it doesn't mean it's actually true.

You claim that you read a lot and you have the word enlightenment in your signature, that doesn't make you an enlightened well read person. Neither does watching conspiracy videos on YouTube or David Irving conferences for that matter. 

My facts aren't baseless.

 

You clearly suffer from a superiority complex, I'm done with you. Funny you are the one calling me arrogant.

Just because it has the word truth in it doesn't mean it's actually true.

You claim that you read a lot and you have the word enlightenment in your signature, that doesn't make you an enlightened well read person. Neither does watching conspiracy videos on YouTube or David Irving conferences for that matter. 

My facts aren't baseless.

 

You clearly suffer from a superiority complex, I'm done with you. Funny you are the one calling me arrogant.

 

Indeed it doesn't. But yet you claim your views as the rational truth. Apparently you reached the climax, as I predicted. In fact, I also predicted that you'll name call on the first page, I think.

 

How can 'you' tell that the 'conspiracy videos' aren't the truth? I mean, you do not know what truth is, do you? But yet you seem to claim that you know that it is truth. Furthermore, why are you defending your views if you do not know what truth is. And yes, can't really argue with you if you have baseless facts, I can't believe you believe yourself that you have don't have them.

 

Superiority complex.. Whatever runs your mill, you have no clue what you're talking about whatsoever. Poor lemming, I actually have a sympathy for you. Lol.

Edited April 25, 201411 yr by snaes

Indeed it doesn't. But yet you claim your views as the rational truth. Apparently you reached the climax, as I predicted. In fact, I also predicted that you'll name call on the first page, I think.

 

How can 'you' tell that the 'conspiracy videos' aren't the truth? I mean, you do not know what truth is, do you? But yet you seem to claim that you know that it is truth. Furthermore, why are you defending your views if you do not know what truth is. And yes, can't really argue with you if you have baseless facts, I can't believe you believe yourself that you have don't have them.

 

Superiority complex.. Whatever runs you mill, you have no clue what you're talking about whatsoever. Poor lemming, I actually have a sympathy for you. Lol.

 

I didn't call you any names, nor have I reached a climax.

 

I have never claimed my views to be the truth, I'm offering you arguments and theories.

That's what we are discussing, I doubt any of us knows the whole truth about everything.

 

What baseless facts are you talking about? (Let's skip the Nietzsche one considering you won't accept that his real philosophy isn't national socialism at all). 

u should request to close ur acc and let ur isp block this site so we would never have to experience such an ugly ugly tread

I didn't call you any names, nor have I reached a climax.

 

I have never claimed my views to be the truth, I'm offering you arguments and theories.

That's what we are discussing, I doubt any of us knows the whole truth about everything.

 

What baseless facts are you talking about? (Let's skip the Nietzsche one considering you won't accept that his real philosophy isn't national socialism at all). 

 

You called me a holocaust denier, even though I clarified that in the beginning that I am not. And by saying that you haven't yet reached the climax you've only worsened the situation, it means that you haven't yet told all the 'truths' about national socialism. White supremacy. Lol.

 

I was like you as well, several, 6 to be exact, years ago. And the thing that changed my views was first the transition to paganism, which introduced me to the traditionalism and nationalism (which is not hate, don't even try) -- at that stance I was defending the Swastika and bashing on national socialism. Then I started to study the whole situation and came to the 'ground zero' (Haven't read a single book by Irving, though, nor have I seen any of his movies or whatever).

 

And about the baseless facts, these are your views on national socialism. You first said that this is your theory, but then you claim it's a fact. I have told you that national socialism is far from 'white supremacy', 'racism' and whatnot, but yet you didn't seem to either read, or acknowledge that. And about Nietzsche, I do doubt you have read any of his works -- or rather, you can not connect them to national socialism due to your lack of knowledge about national socialism.

 

*sigh*

u should request to close ur acc and let ur isp block this site so we would never have to experience such an ugly ugly tread

 

If ignorance is bliss.. You got to be in heaven...

m8 u got issues for posting this shit on a runescape botting site

m8 u got issues for posting this shit on a runescape botting site

 

 

Yeah, I do agree. 

Hitler took dicks into his butt. Therefore OP does too.

this post is getting way to deep