In The Gay Science section 125, The Madman; Friedrich Nietzsche first stated the iconic phrase, "God is Dead".

 

"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?”

 

This is probably one of the most true quotes that still applies today. God is dead.

Edited November 3, 201312 yr by Zappa

I'm in total agreement. I'm not going to get into my religious views right now, but all I can say is I hate seeing weak minded people need an icon of hope just to get through their day to day lives.

Something that doesn't exist can't be killed :P

Something that doesn't exist can't be killed

 

Apparently the quote flew right over your head.

I'm in total agreement. I'm not going to get into my religious views right now, but all I can say is I hate seeing weak minded people need an icon of hope just to get through their day to day lives.

Faith is a very powerful thing in this universe

 

OT: What does this quote mean to you if you don't mind me asking.

Edited November 4, 201312 yr by LifezHatred

 

I'm in total agreement. I'm not going to get into my religious views right now, but all I can say is I hate seeing weak minded people need an icon of hope just to get through their day to day lives.

Faith is a very powerful thing in this universe

 

OT: What does this quote mean to you if you don't mind me asking.

 

 

An important thing to discuss is one of the most well-known aspects of Nietzsche's philosophy: his influence on existentialism, as well as his critiques of religion. For Nietzsche, the greatest problem for man is how we justify our lives, and make them meaningful and valuable. He believes that the justification of life through morals and values leads to nihilism, and that is what he sees happening around him. Therefore, Nietzsche believes that we need to justify our lives not through morals, or God, but rather through the highest form of earthly man, Superman. Basically, the role of the Superman is to pursue that beyond the morals, and to suppress the instinct side of ourselves that we discussed earlier. The Superman is the goal of humanity. Rather then setting out goal on things that are not real, i.e., God and morals, it makes more sense to set our goal on creating a Superman of ourselves. Nietzsche believes that Platonism and Christianity distract us from our pursuit of being the Superman, because they rely on reason and faith. Both reason and faith share the feature of having a moral conception of the world. This is seen in Western Civilization as follows: For humanity to enjoy security, they must project their desires onto the world as morals and values. This creates a false world beside this world, and the false world is invented by lies. The false world, morals, values, God, and absolute truth are all words for the same mistake. It is not just that got does not exist, but that God is a lie, and the word God and morals are two things that mean the same thing. The entire concept has been created by humanity and has become a distraction. The death of God signifies the end of this distraction, whereby mankind can now pursue earthly duties to the real world. It is the false world that creates nihilism, and the death of the lies that lifts us from this state. The Superman lives beyond the concepts of good and evil. The Superman pursues self-mastery, and is able to return to life and rejoin nature.

 

Nietzsche did not believe that all beings are equal. He believed in an order of rank. The idea of equality was something of the past, something advocated by God, and with God dead we can now see that it too is a lie. Nietzsche believed that there were higher men, and lower men, just as in nature there are dominant members of the pack, and submissive members of the pack. Nietzsche believed that the idea of equality was created by lower men, to bring the higher men down to their level. The lower man makes up most of society, and is the typical man whose only goal is to suppress his instincts. However, the higher man not only possesses great power, creative power, and strength, but also he is able to keep all of these things in control. The higher man has a strong will to power, and can basically suppress instincts. For Nietzsche, the only value of a human is what qualities that human acquires, and the value of humanity exists solely in creating Supermen. With lies such as God gone, the only objective now is to become a Superman.

 

So you see, he is not saying that God is physically dead, but that God is an outdated concept that we humans need to break free from.

 

 

I'm in total agreement. I'm not going to get into my religious views right now, but all I can say is I hate seeing weak minded people need an icon of hope just to get through their day to day lives.

Faith is a very powerful thing in this universe

 

OT: What does this quote mean to you if you don't mind me asking.

 

 

An important thing to discuss is one of the most well-known aspects of Nietzsche's philosophy: his influence on existentialism, as well as his critiques of religion. For Nietzsche, the greatest problem for man is how we justify our lives, and make them meaningful and valuable. He believes that the justification of life through morals and values leads to nihilism, and that is what he sees happening around him. Therefore, Nietzsche believes that we need to justify our lives not through morals, or God, but rather through the highest form of earthly man, Superman. Basically, the role of the Superman is to pursue that beyond the morals, and to suppress the instinct side of ourselves that we discussed earlier. The Superman is the goal of humanity. Rather then setting out goal on things that are not real, i.e., God and morals, it makes more sense to set our goal on creating a Superman of ourselves. Nietzsche believes that Platonism and Christianity distract us from our pursuit of being the Superman, because they rely on reason and faith. Both reason and faith share the feature of having a moral conception of the world. This is seen in Western Civilization as follows: For humanity to enjoy security, they must project their desires onto the world as morals and values. This creates a false world beside this world, and the false world is invented by lies. The false world, morals, values, God, and absolute truth are all words for the same mistake. It is not just that got does not exist, but that God is a lie, and the word God and morals are two things that mean the same thing. The entire concept has been created by humanity and has become a distraction. The death of God signifies the end of this distraction, whereby mankind can now pursue earthly duties to the real world. It is the false world that creates nihilism, and the death of the lies that lifts us from this state. The Superman lives beyond the concepts of good and evil. The Superman pursues self-mastery, and is able to return to life and rejoin nature.

 

Nietzsche did not believe that all beings are equal. He believed in an order of rank. The idea of equality was something of the past, something advocated by God, and with God dead we can now see that it too is a lie. Nietzsche believed that there were higher men, and lower men, just as in nature there are dominant members of the pack, and submissive members of the pack. Nietzsche believed that the idea of equality was created by lower men, to bring the higher men down to their level. The lower man makes up most of society, and is the typical man whose only goal is to suppress his instincts. However, the higher man not only possesses great power, creative power, and strength, but also he is able to keep all of these things in control. The higher man has a strong will to power, and can basically suppress instincts. For Nietzsche, the only value of a human is what qualities that human acquires, and the value of humanity exists solely in creating Supermen. With lies such as God gone, the only objective now is to become a Superman.

 

So you see, he is not saying that God is physically dead, but that God is an outdated concept that we humans need to break free from.

 

I have to disagree with some of his philosophy, but i do agree with a lot of it.

I don't agree with the rank, i believe status of existence is simply a illusion of the mind.

I believe peoples morals and values are actually more based on being judged by others than religion, of course then again i don't live in a city where people are die hard Christians or are too deep into a religion

God is dead, we went and killed him. Now we're dancing around on his bones.

You have to believe in something. I'm not saying there is a god, but I'm saying its an option for someone to believe, and you're in no position to say it does or does not exist. Because in reality, you have no idea.

The whole thing's self explanatory. Of course there's no greater power, we create those theories by yourself. From tribes doing a rain  dance to people praying for peace now? Same shit, we just have more knowledge now. People always look for something to look up to, something for guidance, it makes you feel secure so you believe in it, it makes you feel safe. It's all for the afterlife aswell, people don't want to die and think you vanish, they want to believe they're going to heaven to live for eternity. Religion is our imagination, our fallback, it what makes us feel safe. Think about it logically.

You have to believe in something. I'm not saying there is a god, but I'm saying its an option for someone to believe, and you're in no position to say it does or does not exist. Because in reality, you have no idea.

 

I never said that God does not exist in this thread...

sad af... take that shit somewhere else, we arent all too stupid not to be able to see god and jesus are real.

There is actually evidence to suggest that a man named Jesus Christ actually existed...

Since we're getting all religious I might as well share my two cents

>God is not dead

>God was not created, he was always there, and always will be

>Mankind is dead because we are naturally sinners due to what Adam did in the Garden

>We can only be saved through faith in Jesus Christ who died for our salvation

>Friedrich must have made a lot of money off of his "philosphy"

>2 billion Christians on earth think otherwise

I fall under a denomination of Christianity

The idea of God is old. People needed it in times during the black plague where the shit hit the fan and there was no hope (and during the black plague by the way, the church didn't do jack squat. and neither did praying). People also needed it when they couldn't explain something. "Our crops have gone to shit because we haven't prayed enough" bullshit. Your crops have gone to shit because of the lack of water, or lack of care, or they were hit with frost, or they went to shit due to a pest eating and infecting them. etc etc. In today's modern world we need people to stand up, get dirty, and help rather then rely on some deity (who doesn't exist by the way) to help get you through everyday life because your life is "so shit" without him. hard work pays off; praying doesn't.

Since we're getting all religious I might as well share my two cents

>God is not dead

>God was not created, he was always there, and always will be

>Mankind is dead because we are naturally sinners due to what Adam did in the Garden

>We can only be saved through faith in Jesus Christ who died for our salvation

>Friedrich must have made a lot of money off of his "philosphy"

>2 billion Christians on earth think otherwise

I fall under a denomination of Christianity

 

 

"I believe" should be after each one of these >

Edited November 7, 201312 yr by LifezHatred