Drkohler Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Hillary was just a horrendous candidate, I think we can all agree on that. For Christ sakes, trump won Pennsylvania, which hasnt been done by a republican in over 10 years.. Incredible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 It's no mystery why Trump won, we've all been watching as the man took the podium and said absolutely nothing but blanket statements and what people want to hear; it wasn't until recently in the election that he started to actually dish out policy. I fail to "Reason" behind rhetoric involving building a (logistically) impossible wall, and deporting an entire group of people simply because of their religion, I understand he's back tracked on that last statement, but that's what garnered his support, also he statement about Mexico intentionally sending rapist/murders over. I support Donald as president, I hope he does a good job, but I'm not holding my breath. He's done some good in my opinion so far by having contact with Taiwan, but I don't like him as an individual and I don't think he has America's best interest at heart. It's not surprising since America IS a prison state. And you never actually responded to my statement at all. It's not surprising since America IS a prison state. Care to Elaborate? Are you saying that police drive around and pull people into a cop car for the color of their skin? I fail to "Reason" behind rhetoric involving building a (logistically) impossible wall, and deporting an entire group of people simply because of their religion, I understand he's back tracked on that last statement, but that's what garnered his support, also he statement about Mexico intentionally sending rapist/murders over. Addressed the wall in my last response. He's already flipped on his stance on Muslim deportation, he just wants better screenings done on everyone. When he said "they're sending them over", I don't think he meant that the Mexican government is purposely picking out who has a criminal record and decides to send them here illegally. What he meant by that is that there are illegals who come here illegally, murder, rape, and commit other crimes. Hillary was just a horrendous candidate, I think we can all agree on that. For Christ sakes, trump won Pennsylvania, which hasnt been done by a republican in over 10 years.. Incredible Since Reagan, so 1984. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drkohler Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 People say Trump is such a racist/sexist etc... but in his 60 minute interview he even said he wasnt goin to attempt to repeal the gay marriage bill or anything like that. He did a very good job even though the interviewer was very one sided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TzTok Jad Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Logistically it is impossible because of the geography, but like he said in his interview, in some areas there should be concrete and in others a fence should suffice. It's no mystery why Trump won, we've all been watching as the man took the podium and said absolutely nothing but blanket statements and what people want to hear; it wasn't until recently in the election that he started to actually dish out policy. Were Obama and Clinton any different? I support Donald as president, I hope he does a good job, but I'm not holding my breath. He's done some good in my opinion so far by having contact with Taiwan, but I don't like him as an individual and I don't think he has America's best interest at heart. We all should be rooting for him, however there are people who'd rather see him impeached/murdered rather than give his policy a chance, and instead of actually hoping he'd do good, they'd hope he do bad. There are people who want him to fail because they want to feel like they were "right all along". Despite Trump addressing the racism and violence going on with white supremacists in areas such as Georgia and Virginia (literally telling them to stop), people still blame him for it. I don't think he has America's best interest at heart. He told his kids if he won president they could take his company, "I'm doing this for America" were his exact words. He's also only accepting $1/year to take up office. I don't see how wanting to secure our national security shows he has no interest in making America a better and safer place. Logistically impossible because of the amount of resources time money required. Yes Obama and Clinton had detailed policies on their campaign websites, Obama and Clinton actually debated vs a shit show for TV. I fail to see how we need more national security, illegal immigration is at a low right now and has been trending downwards. I would also like to add that I did vote for Donald because it's well known that Hillary is a warmonger and selfish. Donald is unstable, he flip flops, he seems to take the opinion of the last 'good friend's he's spoke to. It's a shame people are ignorant Bernie Sanders had an unbelievable platform with consistent views that spanned over decades, a genuinely good man and we blew it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TzTok Jad Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 It's not surprising since America IS a prison state. Care to Elaborate? Are you saying that police drive around and pull people into a cop car for the color of their skin? I fail to "Reason" behind rhetoric involving building a (logistically) impossible wall, and deporting an entire group of people simply because of their religion, I understand he's back tracked on that last statement, but that's what garnered his support, also he statement about Mexico intentionally sending rapist/murders over. Addressed the wall in my last response. He's already flipped on his stance on Muslim deportation, he just wants better screenings done on everyone. When he said "they're sending them over", I don't think he meant that the Mexican government is purposely picking out who has a criminal record and decides to send them here illegally. What he meant by that is that there are illegals who come here illegally, murder, rape, and commit other crimes. Since Reagan, so 1984. @your police response It's well documented that we charge and incarcerate at a much higher rate than the rest of the world, majority of prison population is black. Systematic racism is real, it's not as big as protesters are making it out to be but it is real. We've seen it time and time again a white person will get lesser repercussions on the same charge as a black person, these are facts. No doubt this would carry over to other minorities as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drkohler Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Logistically it is impossible because of the geography, but like he said in his interview, in some areas there should be concrete and in others a fence should suffice. It's no mystery why Trump won, we've all been watching as the man took the podium and said absolutely nothing but blanket statements and what people want to hear; it wasn't until recently in the election that he started to actually dish out policy. Were Obama and Clinton any different? I support Donald as president, I hope he does a good job, but I'm not holding my breath. He's done some good in my opinion so far by having contact with Taiwan, but I don't like him as an individual and I don't think he has America's best interest at heart. We all should be rooting for him, however there are people who'd rather see him impeached/murdered rather than give his policy a chance, and instead of actually hoping he'd do good, they'd hope he do bad. There are people who want him to fail because they want to feel like they were "right all along". Despite Trump addressing the racism and violence going on with white supremacists in areas such as Georgia and Virginia (literally telling them to stop), people still blame him for it. I don't think he has America's best interest at heart. He told his kids if he won president they could take his company, "I'm doing this for America" were his exact words. He's also only accepting $1/year to take up office. I don't see how wanting to secure our national security shows he has no interest in making America a better and safer place. He definitely also wants to improve debt and the fairness of income taxes. I dont see how people say they want to assassinate their own president. Its sick. Everyone should want him to succeed, because then the country and its individuals benefit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Logistically impossible because of the amount of resources time money required. Yes Obama and Clinton had detailed policies on their campaign websites, Obama and Clinton actually debated vs a shit show for TV. I fail to see how we need more national security, illegal immigration is at a low right now and has been trending downwards. I would also like to add that I did vote for Donald because it's well known that Hillary is a warmonger and selfish. Donald is unstable, he flip flops, he seems to take the opinion of the last 'good friend's he's spoke to. It's a shame people are ignorant Bernie Sanders had an unbelievable platform with consistent views that spanned over decades, a genuinely good man and we blew it. Logistically impossible because of the amount of resources time money required. True, but like I said, he only wants to build it in areas where it is absolutely necessary. I fail to see how we need more national security, illegal immigration is at a low right now and has been trending downwards. False. Not an all time low. Obama said that because Obama says things people want to hear, not things people need to hear. Donald is unstable, he flip flops, he seems to take the opinion of the last 'good friend's he's spoke to. That's politics for you. It's a shame people are ignorant Bernie Sanders had an unbelievable platform with consistent views that spanned over decades, a genuinely good man and we blew it. Sanders is a sweet guy, but.. His policy (socialism) looks great on paper, but it just doesn't work. Instead of making everyone wealthier, he planned to make everyone equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drkohler Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Logistically it is impossible because of the geography, but like he said in his interview, in some areas there should be concrete and in others a fence should suffice. It's no mystery why Trump won, we've all been watching as the man took the podium and said absolutely nothing but blanket statements and what people want to hear; it wasn't until recently in the election that he started to actually dish out policy. Were Obama and Clinton any different? I support Donald as president, I hope he does a good job, but I'm not holding my breath. He's done some good in my opinion so far by having contact with Taiwan, but I don't like him as an individual and I don't think he has America's best interest at heart. We all should be rooting for him, however there are people who'd rather see him impeached/murdered rather than give his policy a chance, and instead of actually hoping he'd do good, they'd hope he do bad. There are people who want him to fail because they want to feel like they were "right all along". Despite Trump addressing the racism and violence going on with white supremacists in areas such as Georgia and Virginia (literally telling them to stop), people still blame him for it. I don't think he has America's best interest at heart. He told his kids if he won president they could take his company, "I'm doing this for America" were his exact words. He's also only accepting $1/year to take up office. I don't see how wanting to secure our national security shows he has no interest in making America a better and safer place. He definitely also wants to improve debt and the fairness of income taxes. I dont see how people say they want to assassinate their own president. Its sick. Everyone should want him to succeed, because then the country and its individuals benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 He definitely also wants to improve debt and the fairness of income taxes. I dont see how people say they want to assassinate their own president. Its sick. Everyone should want him to succeed, because then the country and its individuals benefit. We're all in the same boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatIrishSOB Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 What isn't fear mongering about "they are sending their rapist and killers over here", also you folks whom speak about immigrants taking your jobs, you say it's the immigrants fault, I say it's the person who has hired the immigrants. But did you here that being spoke about? No you didn't Trump picked a strawman that is common in most major countries and that's illegal immigrants, he says he's gonna build a wall right? That wall isn't stopping farmer Joe, or a rich real estate mogul from employing illegals. Well I say they're both at fault. Bottom line is Trump is prepared to secure the border, something which should've been done 30 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drkohler Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 as a trump supporter, I am afraid of tech industries, because i do invest in stocks. He isnt too supportive of the silicon valley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TzTok Jad Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) Logistically impossible because of the amount of resources time money required. True, but like I said, he only wants to build it in areas where it is absolutely necessary. I fail to see how we need more national security, illegal immigration is at a low right now and has been trending downwards. False. Not an all time low. Obama said that because Obama says things people want to hear, not things people need to hear. Donald is unstable, he flip flops, he seems to take the opinion of the last 'good friend's he's spoke to. That's politics for you. It's a shame people are ignorant Bernie Sanders had an unbelievable platform with consistent views that spanned over decades, a genuinely good man and we blew it. Sanders is a sweet guy, but.. His policy (socialism) looks great on paper, but it just doesn't work. Instead of making everyone wealthier, he planned to make everyone equal. There is the ignorance, Sanders wasn't running on pure socialist policies, subsidized healthcare (like AU,CA,UK) eliminate college tuition (that's a long shot but very doable) Sanders ran on REAL issues. His policies where socialist yes but they are on par with the rest of the developed nations. Sanders wanted to close tax loopholes, if major corporations paid their taxes properly we wouldn't have a national debt, we wouldn't need to subsidize Walmart. His tax plan wouldn't have even affect most Americans because most Americans aren't in the proper bracket. Tax system is disproportionate as fuck, something I haven't seen another candidate actually discuss. @Your graph I admit I shot the gun on that statistic but regardless seeing a downward trend; I would also like correlation vs first time arrivals & repeat arrivals. Also a graphic indicating estimated amount in the country per year would help too. Edited December 3, 2016 by TzTok Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drkohler Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 Thank you for your input, everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Cape Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 and now hes our president and has already started selling off his seat in the presidency for the sake of his business lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
