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  1. 7 hours ago, tstudent said:

    1. How long do you suggest I wait before buying another 400-500m increment?

    2. If I were to do a risky trade on an alt account under the same IP is my main at risk?

    400-500 is quite a bit. Maybe cut it down to <100m per 2-4 weeks if it's an account you really care about. Just make it seem like you're a casual gold purchaser. 

    And no, your alt account's activity will not affect your main in any way even under the same IP.

  2. The high survival rate is true imo. I know just under a dozen of people of got infected, and they said it was like a mild cold. But, they are also young, which may have played a part. I personally received the vaccine, because my country and my school requires it unless I want to go through a bunch of BS. I didn't have any side effects aside from a sore arm, but this may differ case by case.

    I also found it very weird that Covid received so much attention when its behaviour is very similar to stuff like influenza. I have a theory why that may be, but I don't want to sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist so I'll let it slide lol.

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  3. 3 minutes ago, grammatoncleric said:

    Again, more assumptions.
    What makes the optimal settings optimal?
    Lets say you and I want to make a zulrah bot. I can almost guarantee that we will not take the same botting route of creating a zulrah bot. We may run the same scripts at the same time, maybe even using the same proxy provider, it is very unlikely that we will both be using bot at the same place.
    The purpose of this is to not find out right off the bat, whats the best script to use 100% for everyone, absolutely not... The purpose of this is to find out what contributes to a ban and how to counter it.
    Lets say Jagex uses the focus of a window to determine if the account is a bot or not. The bot would simply need to focus the window until jagex changed the way that they detect bots. Lets say that Jagex starts using mouse data instead of window focus to detect bots. As soon as Jagex makes this switch for bot detection, the anti-cheat will pickup on this.

    Khaleesi has quite the edge on OSBot, but he still has low banrates with plenty of users using his scripts.

    Apologies, allow me to correct my wording.

    Instead of optimal, let me use unique. I correctly have my own set of breaks, settings, scripts, that I use, that are unique to me and my bots. Jagex's detection system is like a web, they use lots, and lots of variables. One thing I know they use is reaction timing in between actions, which I tested a while back. They may also use mouse movements, click-points, but who knows.

    Khaleesi has great anti-pattern built within the script like human-idles, but his scripts are still not invincible.

     

    Also, I don't want to sound aggressive in anyway, I love these discussions. Not trying to be an asshole. I think this is an interesting thread.

  4. I think you're on the right track, but I believe detection come not only from botting habits, but from input itself, like reaction times, click-points, mouse speed, etc. And to add on to the bot detection plug-in, I would like to point out that it's BS. I currently have over 10 accounts with 95% plus bot certainity, and I always bot in populated worlds, and I'm certain the plug-in sent those accounts to Jagex. It's been over a month, and I've already sold off a couple. A number of no-life OSRS players or players who make money on their alts have super high bot certainity ratings. They won't get banned. The plug-in sounds good on paper but you can't ban players based on their exp gains.

  5. 1 hour ago, Kramnik said:

    As soon as best proxies/scripts/botting locations/breaks etc. is known they will stop being best as people would start using them and they would create an easily detectable patterns

    ^^ This exactly. Once you find the so called "optimal" (scripts, proxies, breaks, and botting durations) and everyone starts copying the optimal botting habit, it will no longer be viable anymore lol. Look at what happened to birdhouses. The optimal situation is to find something that works and keep it a secret. Once Jagex detects thousands of bots doing the same activity with the same breaks, same botting sessions, the activity you're doing is done for. 

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  6. 2 hours ago, Block said:

    yes ofcourse the script plays a role aswell. i will be testing this. not on my home IP but on  a residential proxy purchased from the guy that he vouched for. he also showed me the script he is using so i will keep everyone posted. after all i told the man i will give him 50$ if the account lasts for 30 days lol

    Good luck! :) Provide updates haha

  7. Completely possible, but "good proxys" won't save you. If you want to test this out, try botting 24/7 on your home IP. Good proxies, with a script that isn't overly used by the public (ie:private script), would possibly allow accounts to last a longgg time. You need the two together to be successful.

  8. 15 hours ago, ez11 said:

    I think your friend might not be telling the truth.

    If you hope that a jmod sees you commenting about a falseban and unbans the account you should probably try posting on twitter or reddit and not a botting forum :think:

    I second this ^^. Jagex rarely throws RWT bans, and when they do, they usually have substantial evidence to back it up because it's unappealable. 

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    7 hours ago, troro1 said:

    Smart ass yet stupid reply . Here's a real reply:

    I bot anywhere from 1-8 hours at a time, basically from when I sleep to wake up or come back from work. You can absolutely bot 4 hours but you need BREAKS. SET YOUR BREAKS. Never bot with a shitty ass new account with level 10 everything but a high agility level. This goes for any other skill. To kickstart a new account burn some logs for 30 firemaking then do the Sea Slug quest for fishing, Monk's Friend for woodcutting, Doric's Quest for mining, Druidic Ritual for herblore, Tourist Trap for thieving and agility, Waterfall Quest for attack/strength, Witch's Potion and Imp catcher for magic, Natural history quiz for hunter. This should all take you UNDER ONE HOUR after buying all quest items from GE. Don't be STUPID and bot long with none or puny ass breaks.

    Botting will always lead to a ban, and breaks and quests simply delay the inevitable. "I got banned clean ip never botted anything else" posts with no context on the user's botting habit doesn't provide any value, and is an attempt to smear the script's reputation.

  10. Proxies and the other nitty gritty stuff aside, breaks have a big impact on bans. For instance, for something like bank standing herblore, a break every ~10 minutes would allow an account to gain much more exp than one that doesn't break at all. 

    But the biggest factor is to try a bunch of different stuff that may seem redundant until you see your bots surviving a substantially longer time, and then keeping what you found a secret and keeping those gainz 😉

  11. Very close to zero. As I've told people before, Jagex is aware that more than half their player base buys gold. It won't be in their interest to ban real players who buy gold to play the game. That being said, they do like throwing in RWT bans to botters to deny a future appeal. I purchase  anywhere from 30-50m gold on my main every two weeks or so for the last 5-6 years and I've yet to receive a ban. However, some of my bots have received RWT probably from being traced from my mule.

  12. Extremely high. It's been overused for many months, and they've cracked down on this method. It was a beautiful farm to run before though.  I think they have people manually checking bird house bots now, because I've tried running a couple and they get banned within a week or two.

  13. Jagex doesn't ban gold buyers. Forget all the nonesense about drop trading/staking if you're just planning on buying gold for your main. They have stated before that over half of all players have participated in RWT. They aren't going to ban half the entire player base. A mod was asked in the past of why buyers aren't getting banned, and he explained that buyers are different as they buy to play the game, not to profit from it. I've bought probably a couple hundred million OSRS over the past few years for supplies and bonds, and I've been fine.

    (I dont want "just trade it, you wont get banned", because ive seen stories of people being banned doing this...)

    These 'stories' of people getting banned are EXTREMELY rare, and it's because they were trading gold on flagged proxies and/or were botting their accounts. Jagex likes to throw RWT bans to botters over Macroing Majors because they don't want you squashing the ban in the future. If you truly insist that you may get banned, then the safest option is to buy gold from an actual player who seldom real world trades, as this seems least suspicious. 

  14. On 6/3/2021 at 6:17 PM, Proxilus said:

    Used the script for 4 hours, If that, And account was banned.
    Had never used bots on this PC or IP address before.
     

    You botted agility for four hours and you're surprised you got a ban? 

  15. 58 minutes ago, triblion2000 said:

    I've kept bots alive for a decently long time on home IP, not money making just skilling and making mains. But I'm more asking about how often people's bots survive after botting on the same proxy where there's already been a ban, because 5 hours after I start when a single account has already been banned is pretty shitty. This would be bottinghubs proxies as I haven't found anywhere else that people have mentioned are reliable 

    Don't bot tut island and keep botting sessions short for the first 24 hours of your bots life. I've never witnessed an increase in bans due to previous bans on the same proxy. I would build anywhere from 5-10 accounts on a single proxy, and bans wouldn't affect the other accounts whatsoever. Try to alter your bots behavior for the first 24 hours, because I do not believe your proxy is flagged, as there would be a lot of locks and instabans.

  16. 2 hours ago, triblion2000 said:

    I'm playing legit on my home IP so I won't be botting that, also plan to scale up so can't do that either 

    Data center, which looks like most people run, residential are super expensive and probably won't profit if the bots don't live a decent amount of time

    Good proxies aren't cheap. You can buy cheaper proxies from the black market, but expect your accounts to have a much shorter life span. Instead of finding cheaper proxies to increase your profit per bot, you should be learning how to bot more efficiently. 

  17. It's def possible. If people could bot a max acct on normal mode, same could be done for an ironman. The best advice I could give is to hand train until you have base 30-40 stats until botting. And if you don't want to hand train at all, to switch tasks very often.

  18. Are you running a big bot farm? If you're botting 2-3 accounts use your home ip. I've been account building on my home ip for the past two years without running into any chain bains/increased ban rates.

  19. It's surprisingly low for power-leveling and questing. Unless they bot/use flagged ips. I've heard of bans for capes though, as cape services are extremely popular and Jagex has banned quite a bit of people who used inferno cape services. Only hire reputable members with at least 100+ feedback, with the majriity of the feedback from providing the service you're looking for and you'll be fine.

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