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On 5/10/2025 at 7:24 AM, womar23 said:
Hello,
As the title states I received a temporary ban for cheating. I was using Czar's AIO Mage script. Anyone have any advice for what to do?can i ask what you were doing as i got 98 magic doing a mix off MTA and alching (alched about 100k magic longbows so far lol)
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can i get a trial on this at all?
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On 1/29/2025 at 10:43 PM, rosich said:
this one is defiantly detectable by jagex macro bot busting software, got banned within first day of using it
I'm just about 98 fletching using this right now and have been using on and off for some time.
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unless your a smoke too start with there is no need to vape, as its not very good for you and can be worse than smoking cigs.
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7 hours ago, GlassNhearts said:
Yeah i do have some mains that have gotten really far from botting but like you said years apart , I would do it months apart going to a 99 , let the account be offline sometimes while working on other bots , and they all got more than 6 99s and pets lol .. it really is luck based sometimes too man
well the 99s and other skill were got in the last 6 months, so i guess they they stop watching accounts after soon time.
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1 hour ago, Curtis20112 said:
This is all awesome feedback, appreciate the lot of you ! I'm still curious if anyone has experience botting after quashed bans. Personally I've bottled and account the ban has been quashed then started botting the same account a little over a year later, I received a second minor. Curious if anyone has had a similar experience.
the 3 main accounts i bot on when i do all have expired/quashed bans one has 3 of them all 3/4 years apart and iv botted some 99s, fletching to 20m EXP, agl to 80+ on all 3 and a load more. i think its all down to luck. BTW i use stealth only on them but stopped botting about 2/3 months ago when i stopped playing
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1 hour ago, Sublimeqt said:
Changing IP with my router does, I'm changing my mac address on my router everytime, Trust me I know what I'm doing lol.
And yes Sandboxie does "Spoof" it in a way, It literally creates a whole new PC everytime I create a diff sandboxie profile.
I have many profiles and create diff ones for each diff account, If I bot 8 accounts, all 8 accounts are being run on "Virtual PCS" That show up for Jagex as its separate own PC.
And I also used old accs I had from YEARS ago, I'm a heavy RS nerd (literally top 100 ironman), I have like 20+ accounts all with diff stats / acc builds etc. Most all of them were made well passed even 2015 dude.
Even accounts I created well over a year ago and bot for 4hours get instant banned.
Literally one of my accounts with over 1500 total, Made in 2016 got permd after 1 offence within 4 hours of GOTR botting.
I've played this game since 2003, I have a massive understanding of this game in general.
I will definitely put blame onto the client as it runs off of the client where over 90% of users if not 99% of users are bots. It's pretty easy to catch bots that way for jagex lol, Especially if they truly do have an AI profiling bots and banning them.
Thus the client needs to be updated. Java no longer cuts it and its clear. HTML5 has to come in my eyes or it may be too late for osbot.
The point you bring up of botting 10 years ago for weeks on end doesn't make much since, As its a point proven that things to be changed, You can't just run off the same java client for years and years when jagex has pretty much dropped nearly all support for said client, And even know that most all of their userbase plays on the HTML5 client, That makes it very easy to determine bots for jagex. They are a multi million $ company owned by a company with hundreds of billions in assets. Sitting on an old client and thinking its good enough does not cut it for osbot. They have to do much more work than sitting on the java client and hoping that jagex keeps support for said client to keep this platform alive and worth it for USERS to put $ into.
I botted well over 13 years ago on original RS well back before EOC for 3 months straight nonstop no breaks on blue dragons. Never got banned. Do I bring that up? No its irrelevant. THINGS Change. Jagex has changed immensely and has put so many resources to fighting bots yet, Nothing here is being done in my eyes to counteract their efforts. Java client in my eyes is beyond dead for botting now. It's so blatant to me that java client botting = instant bans nowadays which means 0 profit for bot farmers which means people will stop putting their money into scripts and VIP on this platform.
I myself have been on osbot for almost a decade now. I don't want it to die out and disappear, I want it to thrive and be worth using. That's why I created this thread to get my point out to people, Users, Devs, Mods, Admins, Whatever. To HOPE. That ALL people on this platform see these issues and TALK and work together to get these very much needed fixes in place. And to work forward towards a better client and overall better platform for everybody.
i myself have played RS from 2002 on and off and have botted from about 2005, and no changing your IP does not change the mac "A MAC address is a unique identifier for a device on a local network, and is usually permanent. It's assigned to the device's network interface card (NIC) " yes it can be spoofed but not changed unless you get a new route every time you do it. and you say you botted 4 hours on old account and got banned yet here is me botting accounts up to 10+ hours a day with no bans at all, 99 magic from 66 in less than 2 week, 4 account with all over 75+ agl now all botted more than 4 hours a day, so there is some think you are doing to get banned so fast you my not think you are but there has be more than just the client as other have said people are using OSbot for bot farms and doing fine but you on the other hand seem to get banned like mad! and i said about being able to bot before EOC happened as jagex were said not to ban bots for a full year to try and work on making them go away (didn't happen with EOC at all), and just so you know its a AI that flags accounts so they see stuff people will not and pick up on patterns fast.
and one last thing you know why you hear more about people getting banned? because people dont moan when and go tell everyone when stuff is going the way they wish but as soon as shit goes tits up they moan about it to everyone they can.PS i looked up to see if sandboxie changed HWID as i know it didn't when i was using it but that my have changed over time but nope it does not this is a reply from a mod on there forums too someone asking if it does
"Right now, there is no function to change a HwID. Sandboxie-Plus 1.14.7 will include HideNetworkAdapterMAC, HideDiskSerialNumber and RandomRegUID. Those features will reduce some fingerprinting vectors, but a machine should remain identifiable. Privacy was not a design goal, as far as I can tell, but it's nice to have." -
35 minutes ago, Sublimeqt said:
It's not like I "Did the same thing" For a full year. I botted a year ago for a little over a month with a lot of success. As said in the post, I botted the first 8 accs I had for almost a full month before they were temp banned, This was right before last years free twitch prime membership, SO ban rates went a lot higher out of nowhere, I started new accounts right after that during prime and they kept getting banned within a few days so I decided to break, I breaked a lot longer than I wanted (Literally a year) Before re-starting my bots, As said above, I changed my IP via my router (Changed mac address) I use sandboxie as well so my PC is not HWID tracked or anything and have also cleared my random.dat files via my pc and sandboxie. There's no shot they can track the shit last year to me, So doing "The same thing" As you say is definitely not an issue.
It's not also like I do the same exact hand training route as I explained, Sure the end skills and quests may be near the same but the hand training methods I do are randomized, I don't do X into X everytime for every singular account.
But even a year ago I believe the osbot version was relatively nearly the same, Maybe 2 or 3 versions popped out over the year. But my main point is Jagex themselves have said the old java client is 90+% bots. And OSBOT still uses the java client. My main point here is to me, It seems osbot is very far behind jagex, And reacts to jagex rather than trying to keep ahead. Like staying on old client for years and sitting and banking rather than progressing an HTML5 client.
There's a lot of people in the same boat as me, People who notice that botting on here is next to impossible in terms of bot farms.changing IP with your route does not give you a new MAC address, your mac is strict and does not change, and you do know that jagex are fighting bot farms a lot right now so bot farms with be a target and you are making new accounts doing just about the same shit every time and blaming the client for you not being able to get away with what you used too. if you like 10+ years ago i was able to bot for weeks with no breaks at a time and not cop a ban at all but know i go months on end botting short times fine. change your shit more than just a bit, look for ways to stop your accounts looking like bots and if you feel OSbot gets you ban go some were else and use there client/bot.
PS forgot to say sandboxie does not spoof your HWID but OSbot does so your ok with that.
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6 hours ago, Sublimeqt said:
Botting is near impossible now at least to make profit in terms of OSRS GP into $ irl.
Any gold farming bots I've been running have been getting instant banned after even 4 hrs of botting.
I do a decent bit per acc by hand, I create acc on jagexs client, Then I do nearly 20 hours of hand training per account before they are RC ready (Gotr) into cosmics etc. I idle the acc more than 48 hrs after the 20 hrs of hand training and 14 quests.
I bot gotr for about 4 hrs and the next day every account is banned always.
about 10+ accounts in the last week have been banned near instantly. With no shot of ever making osrs gp before the ban.
Go back a year ago and I could bot 7 days - 14 + days per account with the same exact hand training method / 48 hrs idle etc. Each bot runs conservative breaks and is not anywhere near 24/7 yet the account just gets banned instantly.
I have used random.dat deleter on all my pcs running bots. (I even run random.dat deleter through my sandboxies - Virtual pcs) And yet like stated above 4 hrs of botting just gets the account PERMAD. not even 2 days legit permad.
I change my IP after any ban using my router its fairly simple.
The accounts getting banned I truly don't care about, I do care tho about making a profit on them before a ban and that is literally impossible nowadays.
I feel like botting is truly dead at least within OSBOT, IDK about these plugins via runelite i've heard etc. But I'm not trying to advertise for any of these (I truly don't know where to find them) But osbot seems very dead.
Point being, OSBOT admin's dev's whatever need to step up their game about 10,000% to keep this platform alive, In my opinion.
if you keep doing the same thing don't you think you my need to change it up a bit as it seems you make it easy for them to spot you, as you said you do the same thing from 1 year ago and in that time there AI that spots bots will see it as a pattern that bots do so will flag the accounts to be looked in too.
as they say "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"you my try change how you do things and change up the main thing you bot, try it and see if it helps.
and just so you know changing your IP will not change your mac address, so that maybe flagged and not the IP its self, all so maybe a HWID flag as well as they can flag more than just a IP and i bet they do like most games that have a lot of people that cheat like tarkov does HWID flagging and banning meaning even if you buy a new account it will not login and get banned right away.
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1 hour ago, Czar said:
I have noticed early agility is a bit risky, I usually do tourist trap, then barb fish, then agil should be safe past 50. I also believe it's safe past 40 but I haven't tried training from 40 recently
yer i do quests too get 1st lot of levels out the way.
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3 hours ago, Fanny said:
Agility is an extremely high ban risk skill nowadays
Would not bot more than 30 mins to 1 hr at a time, maybe work your way up to longer periods as your agility level increases.
Regular play times also help.
i been botting 3/4 hours+ on agility on 4 accounts all now 75+ in it and one i left over night and it gone from 54 to 65 and still not banned, but i did use breaks so that my have helped.
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On 5/1/2024 at 5:01 AM, dudeyoyo said:
All of these are great requests, but for a free script I believe this is about as maxed out on features I can go.
it be good just to fletch at the nearest bank as i had it standing at a bank at it ran too seers just to keep making them.
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3 hours ago, dadbot420 said:
got 3 bans in 2 weeks using stealth. down to a couple of accounts so im waiting to see whats actually working again.
got 99 magic in the last month, 3 accounts to 70+ agl and fish and a load more all with stealth so it my have been more too it.
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2 hours ago, Tom said:
Was it a regular dragon harpoon or like infernal
just the regular one i was trying to use.
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4 hours ago, Tom said:
If you have a dragon harpoon equipped, it should use the special attack
i tried having one in my bag and it just got the normal one out the bank and used that.
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hay can you add dragon harpoon support at all?
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been a round a long time with botting on RS and all them years a go they said the bot nuke of 2011 was going to end botting and it did for a month or so but the bot come back but jagex all so seen there players numbers drop from 130k+ players to only 30k/40k so this will just put a hold on it for a bit till C++ clients come out as all games have bots so just wait for it to happen and go from there.
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On 7/31/2024 at 3:31 PM, Tom said:
It should be fixed now, if not you might need to delete the cached images in
C:\Users\<your user>\OSBot\Data\osFisheryep its working fine now.
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seems like the GUI don't line up for me.
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id wait a bit before botting again, as when i got a 2 day ban and it ended i started botting on the account again and it was banned fast.
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it don't pick up the mark of grace on the werewolf course and you make a toggle so you can?
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sounds good when will it be out?
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Do Permanent Bans become reappealable after 3 years?
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from what i seen from my own accounts, once the appeal is used up you will not get the account unbanned happened to one off my account and was the only on not unbanned.